US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' Big Pharma kills again

[azazel]

A man who killed five students and himself during a shooting spree at an Illinois college had stopped taking medication and become erratic in the last two weeks, buying two guns he used in the bloodbath just six days ago, officials said.

He was identified as Stephen Kazmierczak, 27, a former student at Northern Illinois University where he returned to carry out yesterday's shootings, hiding a shotgun in a guitar case as he entered a lecture hall, police said.

His motive is not known, campus police chief Don Grady told a news conference. Nor were there indications he had any relationship with any of his victims who were mowed down as he fired more than 50 shots in a matter of seconds from a lecture hall stage, Mr Grady said.

Local officials revised the death toll downward, saying Kazmierczak killed five students, not six as they had earlier reported, and wounded many more. In all 21 people were shot before he turned one of his four guns on himself.

"Apparently he had been taking medication" but stopped and had become "somewhat erratic" in the last two weeks, Mr Grady said. He did not describe what kind of medication was involved.

"There were no red flags. He was an outstanding student, an awarded student" who was even "revered" by faculty and fellow students, Mr Grady said. "A fairly normal, undistressed person."

Mr Grady said the shooter had been enrolled at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in the central part of the state, far removed from Northern, a 25,000-student school 104 kilometres west of Chicago.

A federal firearms agent said Kazmierczak bought a shotgun and a handgun nine days ago in Champaign, apparently legally.

The Chicago Tribune reported that he had drawn notice in academic circles, helping write papers on self-injury in prison and on the role of religion in early US prisons, work that earned him a dean's award.

US campus shooter 'stopped taking medication' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

[Revolver]

TRAGIC....absolutely tragic.

BIG PHARMA....dont even get me started.its a bit of a hot topic with me. without a doubt...THE single most incideious entity in our world today.

wont have anything to do with it...i dont even like to take tylenol.

ARGH....xanax,prozac,zoloft,viagra,celex a,blah blah blha.....GARBAGE!!!







cept for B-control....im down with that:nuts:

[azazel]

what's B-control?

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by azazel

what's B-control?

oh, birthcontrol....lols

[azazel]

you're a chick, revolver?

[SEAN!]

so because w he wasn't on medication it was drugs that made him do it? yeah, that seems entirely logical.

a more appropriate title would be untreated mental illness kills again

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by azazel

you're a chick, revolver?

no.

you know that.

im a guy who dont want no little revolvers just yet...know what im SAYIN:P

[azazel]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

so because w he wasn't on medication it was drugs that made him do it? yeah, that seems entirely logical.

a more appropriate title would be untreated mental illness kills again

If you stop taking your drug abruptly, if it is an SSRI like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, you will have severe withdrawal symptoms bordering on nervous breakdown. Google "paxil withdrawal" for similar stories.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by azazel

If you stop taking your drug abruptly, if it is an SSRI like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, you will have severe withdrawal symptoms bordering on nervous breakdown. Google "paxil withdrawal" for similar stories.

i know from experience that, that is not true. people go through withdrawal all the time and dont end up killing people

[hardstylin]

Originally Posted by Revolver

TRAGIC....absolutely tragic.

BIG PHARMA....dont even get me started.its a bit of a hot topic with me. without a doubt...THE single most incideious entity in our world today.

wont have anything to do with it...i dont even like to take tylenol.

ARGH....xanax,prozac,zoloft,viagra,celex a,blah blah blha.....GARBAGE!!!







cept for B-control....im down with that:nuts:

starbucks>big pharma

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

i know from experience that, that is not true. people go through withdrawal all the time and dont end up killing people

People skydive all the time and their shoots never fail. So that being said, nobody ever dies from skydiving.

[pstylez]

Just take some 5-htp if you are depressed. Worked fine with me and now withdrawal symptoms

[laska]

Originally Posted by azazel

If you stop taking your drug abruptly, if it is an SSRI like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, you will have severe withdrawal symptoms bordering on nervous breakdown. Google "paxil withdrawal" for similar stories.

Um, No. Vomiting, insomnia, brain shivers yes. Shooting no.

[Grapes]

Everyone's different. Possible that his reactions to withdrawl are markedly different than yours.

That doesn't mean I'm on board with Wummy's recreation of the scene as if Mr. Pfeizer himself was pulling the trigger.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Revolver

TRAGIC....absolutely tragic.

BIG PHARMA....dont even get me started.its a bit of a hot topic with me. without a doubt...THE single most incideious entity in our world today.

wont have anything to do with it...i dont even like to take tylenol.

ARGH....xanax,prozac,zoloft,viagra,celex a,blah blah blha.....GARBAGE!!!







cept for B-control....im down with that:nuts:

haven't taken so much as a tylenol or advil since I was a child.

[-evil-duerr-]

crazy white kid kills again!

[thebobman]

Big Pharma is undoubtably one of the greatest evils in the word today, but I hardly think that they can be blamed for these shootings for two reasons:

1. The shooter's medication was prescribed to him by a doctor. The shooter had put his mental health in the doctor's care by seeking out the medical care of the doctor who, in his professional opinion as a licensed physician, made the decision on what to prescribe the shooter. Big Pharma did not prescribe the medication nor sell the medication directly to the shooter; if effects of the drugs do turn out to be the cause of the shooter's actions the burden of blame is more likely to be placed on the doctor for prescribing the medication. Big Pharma might have made matches, but the doctor gave them to the shooter (who lit the fire).

2. The shooter was not taking his medication. If he'd had a psychotic break due to side-effects while taking his medication, then Big Pharma could be held liable. Medication is supposed to be taken if it has been prescribed by a doctor. If get into a car, you place your safety with the driver, but the driver can't be held responsible if you roll down the window and jump out while he's driving down the highway.

Having said all that, BOOOURNS TO BIG PHARMA! Those guys are souless scavengers.

[azazel]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

i know from experience that, that is not true. people go through withdrawal all the time and dont end up killing people

not all the time, sure. but it's like that one bad trip out of many :nuts:

[azazel]

Originally Posted by thebobman

Big Pharma is undoubtably one of the greatest evils in the word today, but I hardly think that they can be blamed for these shootings for two reasons:

1. The shooter's medication was prescribed to him by a doctor. The shooter had put his mental health in the doctor's care by seeking out the medical care of the doctor who, in his professional opinion as a licensed physician, made the decision on what to prescribe the shooter. Big Pharma did not prescribe the medication nor sell the medication directly to the shooter; if effects of the drugs do turn out to be the cause of the shooter's actions the burden of blame is more likely to be placed on the doctor for prescribing the medication. Big Pharma might have made matches, but the doctor gave them to the shooter (who lit the fire).

2. The shooter was not taking his medication. If he'd had a psychotic break due to side-effects while taking his medication, then Big Pharma could be held liable. Medication is supposed to be taken if it has been prescribed by a doctor. If get into a car, you place your safety with the driver, but the driver can't be held responsible if you roll down the window and jump out while he's driving down the highway.

Having said all that, BOOOURNS TO BIG PHARMA! Those guys are souless scavengers.

Guns have been around for a long time. only now with the advent of psychotropic drugs do we have these almost common place school/synagogue/postal shootings I hear about that always involves a guy either on his meds, or coming off them. why doesn't this shit go down in Switzerland? oh that's right, because Americans are one of the highest medicated populations in the world. go figure.