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Oh, how I missed that. Once every few months, someones gotta bring it up. lol
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she's like the sasquatch or ogopogo of the bc rave scene.

some say the video is real footage of the face girl, but if you look closely you can see those aren't her real eyes in the glasses.

Startling evidence of raver myth, or an elaborate hoax? We'll never know.

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Old Nov 28, 07
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All you've done this whole thread is throw out casual comments like "X is just as bad as Y" and "X is no different than Y", and you've pretty much been wrong every time.

There are differences aplenty between all the substances in question. It's irresponsible to paint them all with the same brush just because you've left them in your checkered past.

Well, except for the cancer sticks I guess.
Wrong according to who? You?
I haven't once said in this thread that any drugs are "good" I think some prescription drugs can be useful to help with illness but I haven't been advocating any particular drug.
Drugs do affect people differently... is that a false statement? Or was my statement regarding how nicotine and THC affect people differently wrong?
I didn't realize you dicated what is right and wrong regarding drugs, the point I was essentially trying to make was that drugs are drugs and dependancy on any type of substance is bad.
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^isn't the whole nasty argument section of this thread done yet??

people who dont smoke weed are so annoying.









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Wrong according to who? You?
I haven't once said in this thread that any drugs are "good" I think some prescription drugs can be useful to help with illness but I haven't been advocating any particular drug.
Drugs do affect people differently... is that a false statement? Or was my statement regarding how nicotine and THC affect people differently wrong?
I didn't realize you dicated what is right and wrong regarding drugs, the point I was essentially trying to make was that drugs are drugs and dependancy on any type of substance is bad.
Fuck, and I thought I was done with this thread.

Either a drug is a drug, or all drugs are not created equally. Take a side but stop sitting on the fence and borrowing positions from either argument depending on whether it fits your position.

Tobacco will kill you. Plain and simple. It affects your mind because it is addictive, chemically AND psychologically. To try and justify it as a "good" drug is complete and total bullshit when you're looking down on a similar herb that has yet to record a single chemical addiction or death. First you equate weed to cocaine and then you decide that tobacco is soooo much better. How many different ways can you say "hypocrite"?
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she's like the sasquatch or ogopogo of the bc rave scene.

some say the video is real footage of the face girl, but if you look closely you can see those aren't her real eyes in the glasses.

Startling evidence of raver myth, or an elaborate hoax? We'll never know.

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Shes real. Shes a good friend of mine and some otheres on this board.
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Wrong according to who? You?
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I didn't realize you dicated what is right and wrong regarding drugs
Glad I could enlighten you.

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the point I was essentially trying to make was that drugs are drugs
Wow! Wrong again!
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Wrong according to who? You?
I haven't once said in this thread that any drugs are "good" I think some prescription drugs can be useful to help with illness but I haven't been advocating any particular drug.
Drugs do affect people differently... is that a false statement? Or was my statement regarding how nicotine and THC affect people differently wrong?
I didn't realize you dicated what is right and wrong regarding drugs, the point I was essentially trying to make was that drugs are drugs and dependancy on any type of substance is bad.
are you for real? if I understand what you're saying coke = weed = mdma = herion = crack = ritilan = penicillin = ibuprofen?

just to make my position clear not all drugs are the same and to tell people they are is very dangerous.

take a look at this study Effects of School-Based Drug Education: Multi-Level Analysis of Project DARE and you'll see what I mean. the D.A.R.E. message of "just say no" has a short term effect of lower drug use but long term has adverse effects including higher or the same rates of alcohol and drug addiction. other supplemental "anti drug education" tools have proven to be even more dangerous.

honest education based on scientific fact and not moralistic opinion based disinformation is the only approach that works to dealing with drugs. it's not a perfect solution either but over all does have better outcomes and saves lives.

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and for all those people promoting alcohol as a safe alterative take a look at this Your View: Alcohol, tobacco worse than pot, ecstasy: study

a new peer reviewed study published in the Lancet has found alcohol to be more dangerous and damaging to people than pot or mdma.
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I'm a regular pot-smoker. I enjoy my buds like an aficionado, knowing my strains and how different cannibanoids will affect me depending on what I want from my tokes.

That said, I'm pursuing three different careers at the same time...one of which I'm almost always guaranteed to be baked for. I involve myself with my community. I keep active and place a very high value on my personal fitness.

There are definite trade-offs. I find sometimes pot can make me a little socially clumsy, absent-minded depending on the cannibanoids. If I smoke too much or go too hardcore with holding it in, I definitely see the effect on my breathing.

One more point, I have high-functioning autism. My only real drawback from it is to do with anxiety...so do the math.
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What I'm trying to say is pot has done good in my life. According to a lot of neuroscience and most people who find out I'm autistic after they meet me, I'm pretty much not even supposed to exist...and I know self-medication with cannabis is partially responsible for that by giving me the opportunity to grow without the paralyzing anxiety of autism.

Most don't even believe me any more when I say I'm autistic.
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thanks for sharing that, pretty amazing really. I knew weed was useful for a lot of ailments but never anything like that.

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What I'm trying to say is pot has done good in my life. According to a lot of neuroscience and most people who find out I'm autistic after they meet me, I'm pretty much not even supposed to exist...and I know self-medication with cannabis is partially responsible for that by giving me the opportunity to grow without the paralyzing anxiety of autism.

Most don't even believe me any more when I say I'm autistic.
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I've done a fair bit of research on the subject of self-medication out of questioning exactly why I smoke pot like I do. Although I have to admit, I question whether I've developed to a point where I can deal with the disadvantages (anxiety) without the use of pot.

Something else interesting about drugs and autism - in the sixties, they did research on the possibility of LSD being prescribed to autistic persons. Of course the idea didn't fly, but the findings were interesting. Apparently the subjects started to interact and socialize freely, where before they were averse to most socialization. Now, my case is nowhere near as severe as the subjects in that research, but I ended up deciding to do some research for myself. I found most of the social obstacles I might normally face just weren't there...didn't exist...I was coherent, didn't overthink things, and basically a lot more interested in carrying on conversations. Kinda interesting results, but then I have some theories on lysergic acid in the mind, which LSD is very similar.

One other thing about LSD while I mention all this, it doesn't seem to affect me the same way as it does for everyone else. I don't lose touch with reality or see any true hallucinations. The biggest effect is purely cognitive...my abilities to control my mind (and through it, my body) are substantially increased, including the ability to 'turn off' conscious thought. That might be why it affects socialization the way it does.

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Shes in Australia right now. You can party with us next Soundwave and Shambles
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was she at shambs this year? for some reason I have a hazey memory of either seeing her or meeting her..
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Something else interesting about drugs and autism - in the sixties, they did research on the possibility of LSD .... Now, my case is nowhere near as severe as the subjects in that research, but I ended up deciding to do some research for myself. I found most of the social obstacles I might normally face just weren't there...didn't exist...I was coherent, didn't overthink things, and basically a lot more interested in carrying on conversations. Kinda interesting results, but then I have some theories on lysergic acid in the mind, which LSD is very similar.

One other thing about LSD while I mention all this, it doesn't seem to affect me the same way as it does for everyone else. I don't lose touch with reality or see any true hallucinations. The biggest effect is purely cognitive...my abilities to control my mind (and through it, my body) are substantially increased, including the ability to 'turn off' conscious thought. That might be why it affects socialization the way it does.
YEAH A REALLY GOOD WAY TO MAKE, SOUND, NON BIAST RATIONAL DECISIONS ABOUT THE BENEFIT/DOWNSIDE RATIO OF A DRUG IS TO MAKE THEM WHILE TRIPPING BALLS. FURTHER STUDIES INDICATE THAT COCAINE IS FUCKING AWESOME BRAH AND E IS BENEFICIAL TO YOUR MENTAL STATE AS LONG AS SOMEONE IS MASSAGING YOUR ARMS WHILE YOU'RE PEAKING
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One other thing about LSD while I mention all this, it doesn't seem to affect me the same way as it does for everyone else. I don't lose touch with reality or see any true hallucinations. The biggest effect is purely cognitive...my abilities to control my mind (and through it, my body) are substantially increased, including the ability to 'turn off' conscious thought. That might be why it affects socialization the way it does.
im a big advocate of mature psycedellic use as well....

but you state that you are unable to loose touch with reality but are able to 'turn off' concious thought.

i think thats thats the perfect example of breaking the concept of 'reality'...what ever that is.
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was she at shambs this year? for some reason I have a hazey memory of either seeing her or meeting her..
Yes she was.
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FURTHER STUDIES INDICATE THAT COCAINE IS FUCKING AWESOME BRAH
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