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Old Jul 31, 04
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markpaul....every time you write something on this board, you prove my point that you're an ignorant moron.
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Do any of you ever wonder why miscegenation is frowned upon in all breeds of cattle and domesticated animals, but seems to soar for our species in recent times?

Do you ever wonder what this is doing to our people? Our cultures? Our bloodlines?

This is something that has been on my mind for a while, and I find it very difficult to talk about because people are hyper-sensitive about racism these days IMHO. Why white pride is automatically associated to racism for instance, and why reverse racism is rampant these days, take Noel Ignatiev for example. This guy is a Havard professor who believes in the abolishment of the "white" race.

You think anyone would keep their job in Harvard if they were to talk about the abolishment of the Black race or the Asian race?

I think not.

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/harvard_genocide.htm


But I think that anyone who doesn't find the opposite sex of their specific race attractive, is a traitor to their culture, it is, after all, the roots to your ancestry. This is my opinion, and you are entitled to disagree with it. Now I feel our society has gone from one extreme to another.

From Racism, to Mongrelization.

For you see, I am a lover of culture. I have friends from many different creeds and backgrounds, and I am trying to protect their existance for the next generations to follow. The problem I have with people making "halfers" as it were, is that generally speaking they lose touch with their roots.

Let's say a white man and a black woman decide to have a child. Well that child is no longer white, nor black. The origin of those 2 people are lost in that child IMO. I think this is very unfair for the child because they don't get to choose their position, and if they were interested in their ancestory or wanted to get into the ancient culture of either their father or mother, they could never be fully indigenous to either culture. So you see what generally happens is that this halfer usually embraces the culture they are surrounded by, the consumer culture if you will, and it's a recipe for ancient-cultural suicide. I would have no problems with people having halfers if they were to embrace the ancient cultures of both their father and mother, but sadly in my experience I have never yet met anyone like this.

It comes down to creationism or evolution, take your pick. If we were created, we were different for a reason, and by mixing our blood we may be destroying that reason and never fully get to find out why. If we evolved out of the primordial stew as it were, then these traits have taken aeons, generations upon generations to take form, and we are ruining them within 1 generation.

***

This is what has led me to the opinion I am at today, it may change, you may be the one to change it. It's just that I think of a hypothetical situation in the future where miscegenation previals, and the original cultures and bloodlines of our planet are now the minority...we basically loose our diveristy in culture and it pains me just to think about it. Now of course you may say, "well come on, that will never happen, there's just too many people"...and to that I say you should look into the idea of the slippery slope...nothing this big happens over night.

The whole idea of traveling the world and experiencing new cultures has always excited me, and I want to make sure that for my kids, their kids, and their kids that the experience is as authentic as possible.

Now I don't want to come off like this is the right thing for our society to do, that's something this society has to decide for itself. As a concerned lover of all cultures (with a quick exception for cannibalism, eww) I am merely speaking my mind, and that's what this is all about after all, community. I firmly believe that there is a purpose for each different strain of humanity and if we are to find out why we have to keep our bloodlines pure and not engage in war for an extended amount of time. People have the right to make up their own mind, and so this is what I feel is right for our society to do. That said, what you decide to do is your business not mine, though if you were to ask me of my opinion, I would say if your in an interacial relationship and you're thinking of having kids, adopt a child of each background.

For any halfers out there, I would be angry at your parents if I were you...if you disagree with that, let's keep it civilized. I want to see if I can have an intelligent discussion about this on fnk, even though it's highly contreversial.

Discuss.

THAT was so fucking long i took one look at it and ran..discussion over.
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Old Jul 31, 04
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Originally Posted by djmarkpaul
Do any of you ever wonder why miscegenation is frowned upon in all breeds of cattle and domesticated animals, but seems to soar for our species in recent times?

Do you ever wonder what this is doing to our people? Our cultures? Our bloodlines?

This is something that has been on my mind for a while, and I find it very difficult to talk about because people are hyper-sensitive about racism these days IMHO. Why white pride is automatically associated to racism for instance, and why reverse racism is rampant these days, take Noel Ignatiev for example. This guy is a Havard professor who believes in the abolishment of the "white" race.

You think anyone would keep their job in Harvard if they were to talk about the abolishment of the Black race or the Asian race?

I think not.

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/harvard_genocide.htm


But I think that anyone who doesn't find the opposite sex of their specific race attractive, is a traitor to their culture, it is, after all, the roots to your ancestry. This is my opinion, and you are entitled to disagree with it. Now I feel our society has gone from one extreme to another.

From Racism, to Mongrelization.

For you see, I am a lover of culture. I have friends from many different creeds and backgrounds, and I am trying to protect their existance for the next generations to follow. The problem I have with people making "halfers" as it were, is that generally speaking they lose touch with their roots.

Let's say a white man and a black woman decide to have a child. Well that child is no longer white, nor black. The origin of those 2 people are lost in that child IMO. I think this is very unfair for the child because they don't get to choose their position, and if they were interested in their ancestory or wanted to get into the ancient culture of either their father or mother, they could never be fully indigenous to either culture. So you see what generally happens is that this halfer usually embraces the culture they are surrounded by, the consumer culture if you will, and it's a recipe for ancient-cultural suicide. I would have no problems with people having halfers if they were to embrace the ancient cultures of both their father and mother, but sadly in my experience I have never yet met anyone like this.

It comes down to creationism or evolution, take your pick. If we were created, we were different for a reason, and by mixing our blood we may be destroying that reason and never fully get to find out why. If we evolved out of the primordial stew as it were, then these traits have taken aeons, generations upon generations to take form, and we are ruining them within 1 generation.

***

This is what has led me to the opinion I am at today, it may change, you may be the one to change it. It's just that I think of a hypothetical situation in the future where miscegenation previals, and the original cultures and bloodlines of our planet are now the minority...we basically loose our diveristy in culture and it pains me just to think about it. Now of course you may say, "well come on, that will never happen, there's just too many people"...and to that I say you should look into the idea of the slippery slope...nothing this big happens over night.

The whole idea of traveling the world and experiencing new cultures has always excited me, and I want to make sure that for my kids, their kids, and their kids that the experience is as authentic as possible.

Now I don't want to come off like this is the right thing for our society to do, that's something this society has to decide for itself. As a concerned lover of all cultures (with a quick exception for cannibalism, eww) I am merely speaking my mind, and that's what this is all about after all, community. I firmly believe that there is a purpose for each different strain of humanity and if we are to find out why we have to keep our bloodlines pure and not engage in war for an extended amount of time. People have the right to make up their own mind, and so this is what I feel is right for our society to do. That said, what you decide to do is your business not mine, though if you were to ask me of my opinion, I would say if your in an interacial relationship and you're thinking of having kids, adopt a child of each background.

For any halfers out there, I would be angry at your parents if I were you...if you disagree with that, let's keep it civilized. I want to see if I can have an intelligent discussion about this on fnk, even though it's highly contreversial.

Discuss.
Okay well if you would like to know my opinion I think that everything you just said first yes its your opinion...but what is there on this earth that makes it seem wrong in your eyes for 2 ppl of diffrent colours to fall in love and want to crate something as beautiful as a child....I think that if someone falls in love a child is made from that love color,all that stuff is eliminated because they have taken posatives from both of there backrounds and put everything good that they have to offer into one which makes it better because ppl can live togehter and be happy because more people know about diffrent backround because they are "mixed". A fully white person will never know the same or more as a person with 2 diffrently raced parents...think of all the
knowledge that they get about both backrounds instead of just the one......thats my opinion.
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Old Jul 31, 04
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haha!
I'm half half chinese?

I'm just the white girl who seems chinese (I wonder if this has anything to do with me being from Richmond?)

My 1/4 babies are going to be SO CUTE! @#$%
lol. i live in richmond too, and also choose asian guys over white.. hehe
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Tea: for once we think alike. i saw damarkpaul's post and didnt even bother to read it.

ps: djmarkpaul, stupid online screename offender
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Old Jul 31, 04
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Originally Posted by djmarkpaul
Do any of you ever wonder why miscegenation is frowned upon in all breeds of cattle and domesticated animals, but seems to soar for our species in recent times?

Do you ever wonder what this is doing to our people? Our cultures? Our bloodlines?

This is something that has been on my mind for a while, and I find it very difficult to talk about because people are hyper-sensitive about racism these days IMHO. Why white pride is automatically associated to racism for instance, and why reverse racism is rampant these days, take Noel Ignatiev for example. This guy is a Havard professor who believes in the abolishment of the "white" race.

You think anyone would keep their job in Harvard if they were to talk about the abolishment of the Black race or the Asian race?

I think not.

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/harvard_genocide.htm


But I think that anyone who doesn't find the opposite sex of their specific race attractive, is a traitor to their culture, it is, after all, the roots to your ancestry. This is my opinion, and you are entitled to disagree with it. Now I feel our society has gone from one extreme to another.

From Racism, to Mongrelization.

For you see, I am a lover of culture. I have friends from many different creeds and backgrounds, and I am trying to protect their existance for the next generations to follow. The problem I have with people making "halfers" as it were, is that generally speaking they lose touch with their roots.

Let's say a white man and a black woman decide to have a child. Well that child is no longer white, nor black. The origin of those 2 people are lost in that child IMO. I think this is very unfair for the child because they don't get to choose their position, and if they were interested in their ancestory or wanted to get into the ancient culture of either their father or mother, they could never be fully indigenous to either culture. So you see what generally happens is that this halfer usually embraces the culture they are surrounded by, the consumer culture if you will, and it's a recipe for ancient-cultural suicide. I would have no problems with people having halfers if they were to embrace the ancient cultures of both their father and mother, but sadly in my experience I have never yet met anyone like this.

It comes down to creationism or evolution, take your pick. If we were created, we were different for a reason, and by mixing our blood we may be destroying that reason and never fully get to find out why. If we evolved out of the primordial stew as it were, then these traits have taken aeons, generations upon generations to take form, and we are ruining them within 1 generation.

***

This is what has led me to the opinion I am at today, it may change, you may be the one to change it. It's just that I think of a hypothetical situation in the future where miscegenation previals, and the original cultures and bloodlines of our planet are now the minority...we basically loose our diveristy in culture and it pains me just to think about it. Now of course you may say, "well come on, that will never happen, there's just too many people"...and to that I say you should look into the idea of the slippery slope...nothing this big happens over night.

The whole idea of traveling the world and experiencing new cultures has always excited me, and I want to make sure that for my kids, their kids, and their kids that the experience is as authentic as possible.

Now I don't want to come off like this is the right thing for our society to do, that's something this society has to decide for itself. As a concerned lover of all cultures (with a quick exception for cannibalism, eww) I am merely speaking my mind, and that's what this is all about after all, community. I firmly believe that there is a purpose for each different strain of humanity and if we are to find out why we have to keep our bloodlines pure and not engage in war for an extended amount of time. People have the right to make up their own mind, and so this is what I feel is right for our society to do. That said, what you decide to do is your business not mine, though if you were to ask me of my opinion, I would say if your in an interacial relationship and you're thinking of having kids, adopt a child of each background.

For any halfers out there, I would be angry at your parents if I were you...if you disagree with that, let's keep it civilized. I want to see if I can have an intelligent discussion about this on fnk, even though it's highly contreversial.

Discuss.
your point is moot as we all orginate from africa anyway and thus share a similar and mixed genetic background.

race and ethnicity are socially constructed concepts based on traits which are supposedly ethnocentric, which is really a crock of shit, because my cousin is a whiteboy slavic mother fucker and he has nappy hair like a black person, these traits which are supposedly specific to a certain race can be posses by absolutely anyone. This also goes back to your erroneous argument in which you claimed jewishness is simply a religion and not also a race because Whoopi Goldberg had a jewish name and she's black. the fact of the matter is there really is no purely homogenious bloodline because patterns of human migration and settlement ensure that, historically, there has been and will continue to be alot intermarriage between supposedly distinct ethnic groups. For example, my previously mentioned nappy haired cousin has roots from the balkan's and somebody like you, who is supposedly well versed in history would know that about 800-1000 years ago there were mother fuckers from North Africa and Arabia and shit all over sotuhern europe, converting mother fuckers to islam and fuckin "whitey's women," which of course explains my cousin's nappy hair, and the existance of italian and spanish people with consideriably darker complexions and hair types then other europeans from the same area. Essentially, my cousin is part black somewhere down the line. Same goes for all the w.a.s.p mother fuckers in england, back in the day they were all short brown haired light skinned fucks Celtic fucks, like me, but then the saxons invaded the anglos in the 5th century and changed the game. Same with the vikings, the trait of red hair is thought to have originated from scandinavian countries, so all those redhaired scotts, micks, and pommies are actually descendants of viking invaders

Oh and fuck ancient cultures and values they are outdated, this is a post modern society we live in, values and traditions from 500 years ago hold no revelance for modern times. In fact, culture is a really stupid subject to hang on to, as its even more dynamic then bloodlines. Besides, fortunately most of those ancient cultures have long been discarded for the prevailing concepts the sanctity of human rights, individualism and consumerism which have a foundation in the philosphies of the Enlightenment age. Its important to note that most people(all of the western world, and now most of the more industrialized parts of asia/South america) who supposedly have ethnically homogenious bloodlines, have adopted the fundamentals of western culture, thus this fact throws out your retarded argument saying that halfers are more likely to discard their culture, because its likely that their grandparents already did that long before they were born.

id hate to break it to you, but what you are saying is racist and theres no such thing as "reverse" racism its all racism buddy

p.s it really surprises me that there are people in this world who honestly believe in the things you write about on this board. This knowledge has had a seriously negative impact on my perception of humanity as a whole.

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well i have to disagree with you. basically almost all canadians r a disgrace or should be mad at their parents. every canadian was an immigrant so does that mean we should be angry at our parents. i dont think so but thats just my opinion. you should ask what your parents were born and see if they came from the same country , if so its gonna be hard finding the same excat race your looking for. just my opinion
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I think everybody is giving this guy too much attention. Don't get draw into a debate with him.
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Old Aug 01, 04
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now now all calm down take a deep breath in and out! dont be racist! no one is stopping no one about what race should be together or should not be together why and why not... blah blah blah... it just happens!! just happens naturally! im happy okay! im asian and im goin out with an east indian! big deal! god... this thread is really gettin crazier every day... O_O"

in comes the mixes! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
hmmmmmm i wonder what my kids will look like?! O_O?

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Old Aug 01, 04
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But I think that anyone who doesn't find the opposite sex of their specific race attractive, is a traitor to their culture, it is, after all, the roots to your ancestry. This is my opinion, and you are entitled to disagree with it. Now I feel our society has gone from one extreme to another.
I didn't read the rest of the crap you wrote, this however did catch my eye. Some people are physically attracted to certain features, and some such features are more prominent in certain "Races" than in others. Having preferences does not make one a TRAITOR, and especially not to their culture. You don't seem to have an understanding of what CULTURE means. How could disliking or certain physical features that someone possesses make someone a traitor to their culture, when culture has nothing to do with the born physical features of one's body? It seems that you need to redefine what culture mens before you go on labelling people traitors.

Since I am entitled to my own opinion, i think yours is bullshit.
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Old Aug 01, 04
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races are getting mixed up already if it keeps going at this pace ... in a few hundred years theres gonna be just ONE BIG race
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I think not.

But I think that anyone who doesn't find the opposite sex of their specific race attractive, is a traitor to their culture, it is, after all, the roots to your ancestry. This is my opinion, and you are entitled to disagree with it. Now I feel our society has gone from one extreme to another.

From Racism, to Mongrelization.
Thats right, you're not thinking at all. I have never in my life heard such nonsense spewed from one person alone. You are right, it is your opinion, and I do disagree with it.
I'm happy that I'm east Indian, and that i have an asian girlfriend. I could go on forever about how ridiculous it is for people to be concerned about race when in a relationship, but in retrospect, i would not be changing anyone's minds, as they would continue to have the same opinion; short of changing their whole life preference thanks to one blog.
Just to set a neutral stance on everything, personally, I feel that every person is entitled to their own preferences. I do not think it is right to not be with a person just because of their race, however, if someone is happy with their own race, and doesnt make judgements based on skin colour or culture, its fine with me.
In other words, if you want to go out with someone with your own background, go ahead, do so, but be happy.
Similarly, if you want to go out with someone not from your own background, go ahead, do so, and be happy. I know I'm happy the way i am, and dont want it to change.

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Old Aug 02, 04
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it's all about equilibrium
if things arent' so bias
for every 100 chinese/caucasian couples
u should c somewhere near 50% chinese girl/white guy
and the other half white girl/chinese guy
but as it is here in vancity (on a good day)
it's like 10 chinese girl/white guy relationships for
evey 1 white girl/chinese guy relationship
that's a ratio of 10:1
i don't think that's healthy
the ratio is better for population under 20
but not by much

i am not gonna call this a problem for fear of gettin
harsh landslide trashed here on fnk
but there is a tremendous number of chinese girls
w/ fuked up attitudes towards their own race
u gotta wonder wut they see when they look in the mirror?
on the same token, there r even more white girls
who would never date a chinese guy just cuz the guy's chinese
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^if i was single and attracted to a chinese guy, i'd go for it. but for some reason i've never found one chinese guy attractive. its not because i hate my race or anything, i speak cantonese with my parents and still celebrate chinese new years and such with them.
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I'm a halfer guy and all my life I have never been attracted to asian girls, but over the past few weeks, I am just lovin them!!!
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it's kinda like the whole white girls digging black guys thing...
I don't get it. A hot person is a hot person,doesn't matter what race.
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^if i was single and attracted to a chinese guy, i'd go for it. but for some reason i've never found one chinese guy attractive. its not because i hate my race or anything, i speak cantonese with my parents and still celebrate chinese new years and such with them.
wasn't talkin about u or neone specific (guy or girl)
i was pointin out the fact that so many chinese girls
do look negatively upon their own race. i don't think that's rite.

and wut is the reason u've never found one chinese guy attractive?
could it be the influence of popular culture?
i am a chinese guy and although i am not attractive
i hate 2 think that all chinese guys are unattractive
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wasn't talkin about u or neone specific (guy or girl)
i was pointin out the fact that so many chinese girls
do look negatively upon their own race. i don't think that's rite.

and wut is the reason u've never found one chinese guy attractive?
could it be the influence of popular culture?
i am a chinese guy and although i am not attractive
i hate 2 think that all chinese guys are unattractive
maybe its just a phase with some of them. Sow their wild oats, experiment with other guys, etc. then eventually settle down with a chinese guy. I seriously doubt there is the same disparity in dating as there is in marriage.
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maybe its just a phase with some of them. Sow their wild oats, experiment with other guys, etc. then eventually settle down with a chinese guy. I seriously doubt there is the same disparity in dating as there is in marriage.
the same disparity exists in marriage
most ppl of euro/oriental mix has a caucasian father and an oriental mother.
actually the ratio could even be greater cuz that's an older generation
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the same disparity exists in marriage
most ppl of euro/oriental mix has a caucasian father and an oriental mother.
actually the ratio could even be greater cuz that's an older generation
what I meant was that some of the asian girls dating other races while they are young might still eventually settle down with someone from their own culture. I didn't mean that the disparity would change in marriages, just that the numbers would be somewhat lower than in the dating game. I could be wrong.
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lmao. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that. Must read for every asian chick who ever overlooked an asian guy. See what you're putting us through!!! Seriously though, that dude needs to get out more.
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it's kinda like the whole white girls digging black guys thing...
I don't get it. A hot person is a hot person,doesn't matter what race.
agreed..
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Old Aug 03, 04
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I love the people that just see asian or black and therefor think the person is hot. I have a friend and everytime she sees a black guys she thinks he's hot. Ewww, just because they are black does not mean they are good looking. Same goes w/ asain girls.
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im a halfer too, and i like asian girls and white girls... then again i like asian girls more :)
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