HELP Re: cubase / recycle

[klockwize]

so i just bought cubase SX3, and ive heard alot about Recyle.

im wondering if i need recycle if i have cubase? does it do anything special i can t do in SX3?

this is a bit of a dumb question im sure, but any help is appriciated

cheerz

[.LxT]

I'm assuming you mean Propellerheads ReCycle - my limited experience with it was in sampling and slicing loops for use in Dr. REX [one of the instruments in Reason.] I'd say you probably don't have much need for it if you're not using Reason much.

But, as I said, it's been a while since I've played around with it.

[klockwize]

yep thats the "Recycle" in question.

i do use Reason, as a VST through cubase for drums

my question is, if im using Cubase (which has a wav editor in it) do i need Recycle? i know it makes DR.Rex loops to use in reason but is it benificial for me to buy recyle for $300? or will cubase be fine for chopping/editing my wavs for vocal/percussion loops?

i heard its easier and quicker, but i also heard thats all hear say

in a nutshell ...does Recycle do anything cubase's wav editor wont do?

cheerz

[P.A.R.T.Y]

I'd say forget about recycle. Use Soundforge and Cubase as your choppers.

[Royal_Phunk]

^seconded

[klockwize]

soundforge hey?

ive heard of it, but never used / seen it, what does it bring to the table comared to Recyle, and teh wav editor in cubase?

my problem is ive already purchased Recycle, but upon openinging the program, and having cubase's wav editor open at teh same time, they had little to no differences.
i went out and bought it after all the hype ive been hearing about it, and now im in the process of returning it so im just looking for reasons to keep it, but if there is none, i am proceeding with ethe return.

i would liek to hear more about soundforge though, is it Mac compatible? what are the beinfits if using with cubase?

thanx for the help

[.LxT]

IMO it sounds you're just starting out with this stuff... my suggestion? Learn whatever you've decided to use first. The real hardcore apps for this kind of stuff remain Logic and Live, with Reason coming in close and a myriad of VST plugins. These are not cheap at all, granted, but there's some reason behind that.

I think SoundForge is Winblowz only anyway. Depending on what you want to do with the WAVs - time-correcting, stutter edits, shelfing etc - CuBase might be enough, I've generally heard good things about Logic for that. If you just need it for chops and normalizing - use Audacity, it's free =)

Cheers and good luck!

[klockwize]

ive been writting toons on Reason for about 4 years now, but i am still a virgin to the world of VST's.

as we stand, im into hardware/software quite a few grand. between my mac, midi controllers, cubase/reason/ ligit VST's, and now recycle, ive been collecting what i think will be benificial to what i want to do, buying recycle was the only dumb ass purchase i think ive made.

i know what your saying about learning the gear before hand, but its hard when its not so easily excessable, hence my trial and error process of purchasing.

i have tried logic, but have remained comortable with cubase and reason so im just tring to build my studio around them.

like i said the only thing i regret is buying Recycle without research, which im triing to do now lol

i think i am going to proceed with the return. IMO both wav editors (cubase and recycle) have virtually no differnces, and from what has been said here, its not worth the 3bills i put out.

thanx for all the help guys.

cheerz

[.LxT]

Yeah I've dabbled in Reason for quite some time, but only recently got into the hardcore stuff you can do with rewiring instruments in wild and confusing ways [wire clutter =) ]

BTW Recycle has a demo... only saying this in case you get stuck with the program, as far as I know not too many places are 'excited' to give refunds on software.

Anyway, good luck going forward with this, cheers!

[patrik.cure]

i suprised you have been using reason for that long and havnt grabbed a copy of recycle...it great if you have an idea and need to chop a beat real quick (among other things). Its essential for my set up... I use cubase as my sequencer and rewire reason + vsts and a microkorg. Nothing chopps as fast as recycle.

[kir mokum]

from my understanding if you chop loops in soundforge or other 2 track editors your end product is multiple individual files where if you chop them in recycle you're actually putting markers in (as well as some pre processing) and those markers snap to the tempo of the track that you drop them into in a program like cubase or logic (which are pretty much on par with each other as cubase is using the neundo engine) and you bring it in as a single file. so a practical and rudimentary example would be taking your break into recycle and set your markers either automatically or manually) and then bring it into a cubase audio track and your sample will automatically snap to the tempo of your arrangement. you can also load them into samplers and use that to rearrange the slices. i'm not totally sure which samplers have how much compatibility as far as cubase is concerned. logic has pretty much full support so i would think cubase would have pretty extensive support. it's a powerful tool and can make your life a lot easier. i wish it had a quantize function though.