Hardcore drugz...

[junglEst_gurl]

yah i dont really kno wut other ppl 'consider' hard drugs...i usually just say nething thats not like e,weed,shrooms & that shit
i have tried most drugs just 4 experimenting...but i have a addictive personality so i try 2 steer clear

[decypher]

Originally posted by Iokua
Haha. I went to Semi last year and Haydn said you were No1d on Fnk so that's how I knew your name. How come I never see you at raves? Makes me confused. And unless I miss my guess you went to Ray Shepherd. People in lower grades always know all the higher ups...it's so they can tell on you if you beat them up and shove them in a locker :c-tard:
See ya later and Rave on
-pEace, josh

hey, actually i went to Laronde :)... i graded from elgin in 2001, i've been to lotsa partys in the last 3 years, but for some reason i never really met many people, im usually just watching the dj ....well, maybe i have seen u, who knows

[crackjoy]

Originally posted by Iokua

Don't worry Cam. Colin's the research king, right colin? You know about drugs through reading...not experience.
This is Josh from Semi by the way.
And Colin, how are you getting to Spooky...I thought your car died.

damn rights i'm the research king. research before experience. :keebler:

nah, my lady is fine, so i'll probably be taking her to spooky.

[miss.myra]

L O L

white rock.

[SEAN!]

Originally posted by no1d


hey, actually i went to Laronde :)... i graded from elgin in 2001, i've been to lotsa partys in the last 3 years, but for some reason i never really met many people, im usually just watching the dj ....well, maybe i have seen u, who knows

you graded the same year as justin graham..do you know him?

[decypher]

Originally posted by SEAN!


you graded the same year as justin graham..do you know him?

Did he goto elgin? hmmm.. im not sure... i can't even remember half the people i graded with... i'll check my year book

[Iokua]

hahahahahhahahaha oh. Totally wrong person. that would explain why I haven't seen you at any raves. Wow that's so much less confusing now...have a nice day

[Rytalin]

Originally posted by no1d


yeh it definately has the potential for abuse for people who use it to k-hole and escape reality... but i've read articles about how some spiritual people use it to solve problems, because while ur in this sedated emergent state, u can see all ur lifes problems and events, and organize ur minds thoughts and personalities... kinda hard to explain.. i had an experience like this on another dissociative anesthetic , was a very powerful and mindblowing experience....

K, particularily when injected, can launch you STRAIGHT into metaprogramming space. it's like an eject button, it works every time, that's why it can be so habit forming.

I haven't actually been quite into that space yet, but I have had quite a few experiences with seeing the ghosts of people who are still alive, and learning how everything is connected to everything else on some level or another.


fun stuff.
you can carve something pretty cool out of your brain with it.
Just don't carve away too much, you may wake up one day and realize you can't think anymore.


:)

[theCookee]

done my share (of just about everything).

moderation is the key.

nuff said.

[JoNeSie]

Don't do drugs that you don't know anything about. Make sure you research what you're doing. E by itself can be quite damaging. A good place to start is www.erowid.org

One thing that I'm not too sure about, is that do all those e-tards realize that when they get "speedy" E, the stuff that makes it speedy is meth? I don't know how many ppl have tried to tell me that speed and meth are different.

[rawb]

people say things like 'this is not a drug' and 'whats the big deal' and 'i dont have an addictive personality' and 'i can handle it' because they cant step out of the situation and see themselves.

newsflash: drugs are really fucking fun. like holy shit fun and inspirational and christmas and your birthday rolled into one. no drug is going to get you high, then kick you in the junk and steal your wallet. no drug is going to make you think 'HOLY SHIT THIS IS BAD FOR ME IM POSSIBLY FUCKING MYSELF UP LONG TERM'.

im not anyone's mom or dad, but look at some people with long term coke/crystal/k/heroin dependancies/addictions... physical or mental. do you think all these people just have 'addictive personalities'? don't you think these people said all of the same rationalizing shit you said?

people fuck up their lives often on shit like drinking and chronic. that shit isn't even addictive or that much of a buzz.

[mojo]

is that last line sarcasm?^^

[crackjoy]

Originally posted by JoNeSie
Don't do drugs that you don't know anything about. Make sure you research what you're doing. E by itself can be quite damaging. A good place to start is www.erowid.org

One thing that I'm not too sure about, is that do all those e-tards realize that when they get "speedy" E, the stuff that makes it speedy is meth? I don't know how many ppl have tried to tell me that speed and meth are different.

well, some ppl refer to amphetamine as speed. so sometimes they are different.

but for the most part, they are not.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma...article3.shtml a good read for anyone taking ecstasy

[JoNeSie]

Originally posted by rawb
people fuck up their lives often on shit like drinking and chronic. that shit isn't even addictive or that much of a buzz.

Actually, both weed and alcohol are addictive. I know a few ppl who can't control their drinking. Pretty well every addiction is different in its own way. Nicotein is the stereotypical addiction and ppl who don't know about addiction expect every drug that is "addictive" to be as hard to quit as it. . Even sugar is addictive in a way.

Just cause you don't feel compelled to smoke more weed or drink more doesn't mean it isn't the same for everyone.

[Dj Quik]

The difference between drugs and hardcore drugs is.....

Hardcore drugs are chemical drugs, softer drugs are the natural variety.

[NeVeRLooKBacK]

Originally posted by no1d
i dont consider K a hardcore drug, u can get brain damage for continously doing it over months, but other then that, it can be used as a tool for some people, or to get fucked up for others...

but if you use ANY drug consistantly your bound to royal screw up your mind

[crackjoy]

Originally posted by Dj Quik
The difference between drugs and hardcore drugs is.....

Hardcore drugs are chemical drugs, softer drugs are the natural variety.

haha, u've never heard of datura.

"natural" doesnt mean shit. "natural" mushrooms will make u just as dead as chemical paint thinner. thinking something is safer when natural is a deadly way of thinking.

i actually trust chems more than plants because we generally know more about stuff made in a lab than grown in the forest.

[Bevvy Swift]

Originally posted by JoNeSie

Actually, both weed and alcohol are addictive.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA that's the funniest thing i've ever heard! although alcohol is addictive, WEED IS NOT!!! my mom used to say "don't smoke that shit, you'll get addicted and it will ruin your life!" now hear this: i am a chronic. aside from one month, i have smoked weed every day now for a little over two years. but in janruary, when i decided to stop smoking weed (party because i wanted to see if i could quit, partly because i didn't even get high anymore, i needed a break) i had no trouble quitting. the only difficult part was finding things to do (as the things i used to do were no longer fun, minus the weed) but i didn't go through withdrawls, i didn't starve, i didn't get grouchy, i actually felt better! the only reason i started again was because i was bored to shit. weed just makes the boring little fidgets (scratching ones self, picking lint off a couch) that much more fun. it's a little off topic, but i haven't blazed yet today (broke as a joke) and i'm just passing the time until my buddy gets home and blazes me. it's his turn, afterall.

[Bevvy Swift]

p.s. - any drug can be extremely harmful if used irresponsibly. the chemical/natural breakdown is void, because heroin came from poppy seeds, and cocaine came from the cocoa plant. and heroin really isn't as bad as you think it is. although i have never done it (thanks to that "FIX" video in capp 9), i have seen people on it, and they act no differently than when they are sober. what fucks them up is either overdose, or a shitmix injection (which includes heroin, but can also include coke, crack, meth, drano, and other gross-ass shit)

[QuanNeur]

Originally posted by JoNeSie
One thing that I'm not too sure about, is that do all those e-tards realize that when they get "speedy" E, the stuff that makes it speedy is meth? I don't know how many ppl have tried to tell me that speed and meth are different. [/b]

actually there is a difference. speed is just straight amphetamine and lasts from 4 - 6 hours. it's not a serious buzz, just makes you feel alert and wide awake. crystal is methamphetamine.. well now i'm probably telling you what you already know, but it's a step up from straight speed and usually lasts from 6 - 8 hours, and potentially days if you do loads of it.

to complicate things further there's also methcathinone which feels almost indentical to crystal but lasts 4 - 6 hours. it's synthesized out of ephedrine just like speed and crystal.

it can be difficult to tell these apart but you can get to know the differences in the feeling. straight speed is just a wake up with like no anxiety or paranoia. meth gets your teeth gnashing, eyes bugging and feelings of paranoia and anxiety can be strong.

depending on where you go you'll find either one or the other dominates. in most of north america it's crystal because it's cheap and strong. in quebec and the uk meth is virtually nonexistent due to different customs and attitudes. in the uk in particular crystal is a drug thats featured in loads of tv shows as the demon drug of north america..

[Rytalin]

Originally posted by Dj Quik
The difference between drugs and hardcore drugs is.....

Hardcore drugs are chemical drugs, softer drugs are the natural variety.

go eat some panther amanitas and tell me that.

and while we're on the topic of arguing your point, LSD is not very hard on your body at all either. 300 or so micrograms isn't really enough to to any sort of physical damage.