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i used it with my workouts... now i need a kick in the ass to burn off these holiday calories. bren |
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fuck ephedrine, you might as well be doing a couple points of jib. |
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but be careful, i used to take 3 tabs b4 football games and i was super pumped for the game but i felt hella sick after. sometimes it feels like your heart is gonna beat outta your chest. be careful... its not mild shit like you think it is. |
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SAY NO TO EPHEDRINE!
i can't believe i took thermaleans and enpheds on a regular basis just for the hell of it.. what was i thinking. i was so beat up after taking them..and grew a tolerance. disgusting. think about it..they took ephedrine off teh shelf for a reason and new products are "enphedra free" FOR A REASON. |
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ephedrine is a form of ephedra which is a plant. its really bad for you when combined with caffine..or caffine alternatives..(kola nut..guarana..<-spl?)......thats why they have to make things "ephedrine free now" cause you can have a heart attack from taking those things....the "ephdra-free" diet pills or whatever it may be dont contain ephedrine...but like 5 diff types of caffine...u mine as well do speed! ephdra is used in asthma medication to help open the vaulves n' shit....so ya...its probably not good to be doin that shit all the time......especially in combination with caffine.....they used to call it "herbal e"...cause it has some similar qualities.....
i took 3 once and i felt like i was gonna have a heart attack. i was all jittery and shit...i felt like a sketch case.....but things felt pretty cool and i could hear alot better...hehehe..... (the only reason i know this shit is cause i did a project on it....im not a nerd i swear!) ;-) |
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U.S. to Ban Dietary Supplement Ephedra
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration has decided to ban the herbal weight-loss supplement ephedra from the marketplace because of concerns about its effects on health, government officials said Tuesday. Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson and Food and Drug Administration chief Mark McClellan were to announce the ban at a midday news conference, the officials said, speaking only on condition of anonymity. Critics called the federal crackdown too late. Sales nationwide already have plummeted because of publicity about roughly 155 deaths blamed on the amphetamine-like stimulant, including Baltimore Orioles baseball player Steve Bechler earlier this year. Ephedra is linked to heart attacks and strokes, even when used by outwardly healthy people at recommended doses, because it speeds heart rate and constricts blood vessels. Three states - New York, Illinois and California - have passed their own ephedra bans; use has been banned in professional football, college athletics and minor-league baseball, and several retail chains, including supplement giant General Nutrition Centers, recently quit selling it, too. "It's a dead product and unfortunately it has become a dead product over the backs of a lot of dead people when the FDA could have acted before," said Dr. Sidney Wolfe of the consumer advocacy group Public Citizen, which petitioned the government for a ban in 2001. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031230/D7VOPQG80.html |
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When I was working in a gym I had access to the american thermaline, which by the way is like 2-3 times more potent then the canadian one, and I didn't experience any problems. Then I stopped taking it, and the withdrawl symptoms of morning headaches occured. I fuckin hated those. So on my next cycle I decided to go with Ma Huang, a herb that contains ephadrine naturally and has a bunch of other alkaloids that'll boost the motabolism. No withdrawl symptoms at all after a cycle with this, and the energy boost was still significant (be sure to read the packages and get the one with an 8% content of ephadrine). You should be able to find this in most health food stores.
Also be sure to cycle it by using it for a whole month, stave off for three...repeat duration for 3 cycles, then take a year off. You'll have no problems then I'm pretty certain. Feel the burn. |
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/12/30/ephedra/index.html
So I should've read Narc's post more concretely, as herbs are the target not just the active element as suggested in the thread starter. Just look at the fucking label they use on the article (rubbing it in my face it seems), I'm not surprised but this is fucking ridiculous. Ma Huang has been used for over 5000 years. |
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hehe its not even close to jib ive been ECA stacks for 4 years now with no problems you can go into any health food store that isnt a gnc or some other high end store and order it, when the small companies order shit its just an item number so most of the time there suppliers from the states will send it over the border, the health store in my town is off the hook i even order prohormone stacks from them. :284:
Last edited by hardstylin; Dec 31, 03 at 05:16 AM. |
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yeah ephedrine is quite insanely bad.. i know someone that did that right. and then the next morning they were like all sick and stuff. they took it for a rave i beleive. and yeah it wasn't pretty would have probably been better off just taking E but that is not the point.. and then there is me.. being stupid and taking 6 ephedrine and 4 caffeine all at once.. yeah that was the stupidest thing i could have ever done in my whole entire life.. lol don't do it guys don't do it!
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