can you rail DXM?

[impure]

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

Can you rail DXM? Yes.
Can you rail wasabi? Yes.


Infer what you will.

funny thing?
he has railed wasabi. (sinnerman that is)
so have you tried railing DXM?

[impure]

[quote=sinnerman]
But, unlike you, I'm jibby enough to admit when I have a problem.
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how the fuck does that sentance make any sense?
so you dismiss the fact that i cleaned up the rest of the house which you and your sister made a massive mess?

[Aspectre]

I have railed dxm, it burns a lot more than coke or e, and the full effects aren't at great as popping it.
I did about 75 mg railed, and 100 popped about an hour later. It isn't anything special.

[impure]

wonderful to know.

i got that whole "alien trying to come out my abdomen" feeling when i ate 400mg.
effin hurt.
i've now learned to eat quite a bit before doing any.

[sinnerman]

Originally Posted by MissBehavior

Haha.

Can I watch you rail wasabi?

Maybe...but it's rather unpleasant. It's like instant projectile vomiting when it hits the back of your throat.

[sinnerman]

[quote=impure]

Originally Posted by sinnerman

But, unlike you, I'm jibby enough to admit when I have a problem.
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how the fuck does that sentance make any sense?
so you dismiss the fact that i cleaned up the rest of the house which you and your sister made a massive mess?

It doesn't. I was just trying to bother you out of spite. You make it too easy.

[impure]

no, YOU make it too easy.

[Max Lazarus]

It sucks. Doesn't work very well either. I tried to insufflate a bit to compensate for an undershot dosage but it hardly did anything. I probably railed around ~200mg at least. Never again.

Oh and DXM is a portal to a world of fucking weirdo, dehumanizing evil. I love it, which is one of the reasons I keep away from it. It's really hard to function socially if you do it consistently. It seems to affect concentration and motor skills for days after the intial dosage, after a couple demonstrations of how it affects me while I'm driving I had to avoid driving the day -after- I dosed, and sometimes longer. Then again, I tended towards somewhat heavier doses.

Just my personal experience.

[Rytalin]

Well apparently DXM has to convert to DXO in your liver before it really kicks in, so technically railing it isn't supposed to work.

After trying it, I kind of agree.


Basically it made my nasal membranes swell up to the point where it became psychoactive. I felt like I had a couple marshmellows stuck in my nose, and the more stuffed up they got, the more visuals I got. I could blow my nose and instantly come down, but it would just stuff up with liquid snot again and I'd be right back up there.

I dunno, I'd recommend trying it once if your stupid.... but its really uncomfortable and not worth it IMO.

[decypher]

^^Ding Ding

[sinnerman]

Rytalin, what in God's name are you talking about!?

Originally Posted by Rytalin

Well apparently DXM has to convert to DXO in your liver before it really kicks in, so technically railing it isn't supposed to work.

When you sniff drugs, they are absorbed into your blood (which will soon get to the liver) thru your nasal membranes. It's not like it goes straight into your brain or anything . . . and it's almost the same as smoking, eating or shooting. BUT, DXM's absorption in your nose is only about 5%, the rest is probably wasted.

Originally Posted by Rytalin

Basically it made my nasal membranes swell up to the point where it became psychoactive. I felt like I had a couple marshmellows stuck in my nose, and the more stuffed up they got, the more visuals I got. I could blow my nose and instantly come down, but it would just stuff up with liquid snot again and I'd be right back up there.

Of course DXM is psychoactive; all drugs are. That just means it alters your state of mind.

You're probably mildly allergic to DXM; many ppl are. What you're talking about kinda sounds like a sinus headache. When you relieve the pressure, your crazy headache goes down. Hallucinating while having headache = fucked up.

[decypher]

He's talking about the process in which your body breaks down DXM into DXO, 1 in 5 people lack this enzyme so extreme and adverse reactions can happen from high DXM ingestion.

And no.. snorting is not the same as ingestion or smoking or injection. They all take different routes with same effects at varying speeds. Snorting just passes the brain blood barrier faster.

BUT, DXM's absorption in your nose is only about 5%, the rest is probably wasted.

basically your reiterating what rytalin already said here.


zzzzz

[sinnerman]

^^^
Hey now, careful what you write or you'll scare them all away!

Extreme and adverse? Hardly . . .

People lacking said enzyme experience more physical discomfort (eg. nausea, pain, bathroom issues), but it's not a cause for concern. Unless these people are taking huge doses (like several grams) regularly, there's nothing to worry about; just don't eat it on an empty stomach.

DXM intolerance is far less threatening than the average case of lactose intolerance. Plus, the amount taken is much lower.

In conclusion, DXM is fun for the whole family.

[Rytalin]

[quote=sinnerman]

When you sniff drugs, they are absorbed into your blood (which will soon get to the liver) thru your nasal membranes. It's not like it goes straight into your brain or anything . . . and it's almost the same as smoking, eating or shooting. BUT, DXM's absorption in your nose is only about 5%, the rest is probably wasted.
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When you rail drugs, they can kick in initially about as fast as your brain can recognize a smell. That's what I've found, at least.

[decypher]

Originally Posted by sinnerman

^^^
Hey now, careful what you write or you'll scare them all away!

Extreme and adverse? Hardly . . .

People lacking said enzyme experience more physical discomfort (eg. nausea, pain, bathroom issues), but it's not a cause for concern. Unless these people are taking huge doses (like several grams) regularly, there's nothing to worry about; just don't eat it on an empty stomach.

DXM intolerance is far less threatening than the average case of lactose intolerance. Plus, the amount taken is much lower.

In conclusion, DXM is fun for the whole family.

ok there has been many reports of people who lack this enzyme experiencing intense effects off just a medium 500mg dose and dangerous effects at the 800mg dose. A 1+gram dose is like complete egoloss for people who DO have the enzyme.. i dunno what you been doing, but its always best to warn people about the possibilities then to have a half-hearted approach to using unconventional drugs.

[sinnerman]

Originally Posted by decypher

ok there has been many reports of people who lack this enzyme experiencing intense effects off just a medium 500mg dose and dangerous effects at the 800mg dose. A 1+gram dose is like complete egoloss for people who DO have the enzyme.. i dunno what you been doing, but its always best to warn people about the possibilities then to have a half-hearted approach to using unconventional drugs.

Intense? Hell yeah. Dangerous? Hardly. The psychotropic effects may be much stronger for the enzyme-lacking 20% of us, but even 800 mg is not physically dangerous. Plus, 300 mg will blow most people away; very few ppl would/should ever attempt a third plateau dose (eg. 500 mg +).

Unconventional? Hardly. A LOT of over-the-counter cold remedies (like Nyquil) contain DXM; usually 30 mg - 50 mg per dose. If that enzyme was critical to your physical health, even that small amount would send you to the hospital. And while maybe 1/5 of the population experiences noticeable side effects from cough medicine, they certainly aren't risking their lives.

FINALLY, I don't see any benefit in worrying people over irregular, infrequent & exceptional possibilities when overreaction is the sole response. It's no different from inciting fear over SARS, West Nile, anthrax, or those killer african bees. No one's safer, but they're all more afraid.

[sinnerman]

Originally Posted by Rytalin

When you rail drugs, they can kick in initially about as fast as your brain can recognize a smell. That's what I've found, at least.

Sure, but that's all psychological (still real tho!). The smell triggers the fond memory and you get excited (adrenaline & your brain's natural stimulants get you high before the drug physically does anything).

[decypher]

So your just one of those guys who herds together a bunch of facts that i already know and tries and make it seem like your putting forth a logically strong argument. First off, ever think outside the box? It CAN be dangerous if the person ingesting it doesen't know every perspective outcome before ingesting said chemicals. Whether they get insanely high and end up hurting themselves or have a bad reaction. There have been cases.

You keep sidetracking my original argument that it is best to know all possible sides of the coin before ingesting these chemicals. Instead you throw back a bunch of facts that do nothing but run you in circles. Also, you misunderstand my use of the word "unconventional." I used it to describe a drug that is not used often and really isn't that recreational.

Yeh people shouldn't worry about the details before putting something in their body, right? This is what you are saying.

[sinnerman]

^^^^^
That's exactly what I'm saying. There's a BIG difference between being informed and being paranoid or worried. Do you research each and every chemical listed as the ingredients of anything you buy at the grocery store? Of course not (even though Methyl-p-hydroxy-benzoate, a common preservative, has seriously harmed a small # of ppl). When the chances of smthng going wrong are so insignificant, it's idiotic even to consider them.

Psychotropics seem like they're more dangerous ONLY b/c they alter our mental state. DXM's use is widespread enough that anyone taking Nyquil doesn't need to go get their enzyme functioning tests done in anticipation of the possibility of an adverse reaction. Be aware that you don't want to eat a couple grams of the stuff and that it suppresses coughing & sweating for up to 8 hrs. Much more than that is irrational.

I guess I'll have upset you again by continuing to run circles around you, so I'll apologise in advance for your frustration in order to spare you from posting about it. See, I'm actually a nice guy.

[decypher]

How am i frustrated? Your still just reiterating yourself. I'm not saying psychotropics are dangerous. BUT, DXM as a dissociative anesthetic can be dangerous for some. Not everyone is a veteran psychonaut. Your comparison between these substances and something you buy to eat from a grocery store, is completely illogical. You can never be too paranoid when researching chemicals, such as these, that you are putting in your body.

So i don't understand why you don't agree if you feel you are so educated on the topic. Not everyone is going to look all this stuff up, so why not warn them that its possible for them to have an adverse reaction or possibly be biologically predisposed to a low-tolerance to DXM. WHY NOT? So maybe that person will start out with an extra low dose to be sure? It's more the possible to have a bad reaction or trip.

So what really is your point here? Are you just stroking your own ego by spending 30 minutes between posts reading drug sites and regurgitating information? Who cares. Point is, you can never be to paranoid when researching interactions and different possible outcomes of ingestion of chemicals. This stops people from harming themselves. Would you start popping perc's and drinking whiskey without researching the possible effects on your body? Is that so hard for you to grasp? Case closed. Nothing else to talk about. If you can't understand my point then maybe you should think long and hard.

I'm out.

[sinnerman]

^^^^
You're silly. Don't get so worked up (ie. frustrated) or you're skin will become all sludgy and gross. :mrt:

DXM's a plateau drug; it's not dose-dependent. Less than 350 mg is at most gonna be 1st plateau. An extra low dose would make no difference, unless it did nothing at all.

You most certainly can be too paranoid (about anything) . . . I would know.

Out . . . as in the closet? Good for you! What a weight off your shoulders!

And lastly, how the hell did you know that I was stroking my ego!?

[tommy-boi]

dxm sucks, I tried drinking the pure dxm cough syrup

200 mg = drunk feeling
300 mg = drunk feeling + not being able to walk
350 mg = i feel like i was being suck down the world :141:

[diva]

[quote=Rytalin]

Originally Posted by sinnerman

When you sniff drugs, they are absorbed into your blood (which will soon get to the liver) thru your nasal membranes. It's not like it goes straight into your brain or anything . . . and it's almost the same as smoking, eating or shooting. BUT, DXM's absorption in your nose is only about 5%, the rest is probably wasted.
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When you rail drugs, they can kick in initially about as fast as your brain can recognize a smell. That's what I've found, at least.

It doesn't take very long for your blood to circulate through your entire body. And when you consider that your liver is only a short distance from your nose...

Everything you rail goes to your liver because it's the organ that detoxifies the blood.

Eating a drug takes longer because it has to go though your stomach, and then the intestinal walls before entering the blood stream.

[impure]

Originally Posted by tom121

dxm sucks, I tried drinking the pure dxm cough syrup

200 mg = drunk feeling
300 mg = drunk feeling + not being able to walk
350 mg = i feel like i was being suck down the world :141:

what syrup is that?
try the pills, i took 400mg for my first time when i went to see k-os in whistler.
good times.
came across a pre-burningman party, and here i thought WE were fucked up!

[decypher]

Originally Posted by sinnerman

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You're silly. Don't get so worked up (ie. frustrated) or you're skin will become all sludgy and gross. :mrt:

i'm not getting worked up or frustrated, i enjoy arguing and debating.

DXM's a plateau drug; it's not dose-dependent. Less than 350 mg is at most gonna be 1st plateau. An extra low dose would make no difference, unless it did nothing at all.

You most certainly can be too paranoid (about anything) . . . I would know.

Again stroking your ego. Are you trying to tell me something i already know? or are you just trying to flex your drug muscles on a msgboard? because obviously You know everything right?

So if plateau highs are utilized through ingestion of a dose of dxm.
Dxm is not dose-dependant as you say.

Then where is the logic in these premises?

Nice little fag joke there, i can see your resources of material are depleting.