How long does E stay in your system

[sidekick]

Originally Posted by GoodFlow

however, PURE mdma is not that bad for you at all. i watched a 2 hr documentary with top scientists they proved if you wait 3 months before doing it again, the side effects are completely reversed.

but meh

they said the seratonin levels are back to normal, but they also said in that same documentary that since it's a fairly new drug they don't really have any idea about the long term effects on the brain. we're all basically guinea pigs here.

[Cranke65]

My mom started lecturing me about e, and how it's a form of crystal meth now, and how it's so popular of "the raves"... then She made me sit down and listen to this whole thing from cknw... it's pretty good.

http://www.cknw.com/station/crystalmeth.cfm

That page has a ton of information... says a lot of the ingrediants in meth are now in e, and that e originated in like.. London, but it was pure MDMA, and now that it's so popular, people put like.. draino and shit in it...

There's some info that's pretty interesting... A pretty good audio clip is on the left side, under the 'station info' section, called, "Jack Webster Award Best Radio Feature: Crystal Meth, a special investigation"

[onefour]

MDMA actually origionated in germany, they used it to help mental patients come to term with things or somehting other, anyways. As much as ive looked into it, short term effect are your seratonmin gets depleted, sure it gets rebuilt after a while. But long term effects, over usage of your seratonin and your seratonin receptors pretty much hibernate and dont receive any seratonin, so in theory the more you do it the more they shut down and nothing ive ever read says for how long they stay down or if they come back up, so who knows. i think im fucked for life tho lol!

[Zz-MR.VAIN-zZ]

I had this presentation at my school and this lady said that E nowadays is a combo of Methamphetamine and heroin. Personally I think it's a load of bullshit about the heroin, and doesn't using meth and heroin at the same time make you die?

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by Zz-MR.VAIN-zZ

I had this presentation at my school and this lady said that E nowadays is a combo of Methamphetamine and heroin. Personally I think it's a load of bullshit about the heroin, and doesn't using meth and heroin at the same time make you die?

ya man

im ddead

[sidekick]

Originally Posted by Zz-MR.VAIN-zZ

I had this presentation at my school and this lady said that E nowadays is a combo of Methamphetamine and heroin. Personally I think it's a load of bullshit about the heroin, and doesn't using meth and heroin at the same time make you die?

each cap of E is going to contain different things. i wouldn't trust highschool presentations because, fuck, they're obviously going to make it sound worse than it is. there were posters in my highschool of skeletons dancing at a rave and the poster said that E causes heart attacks in many teenagers after their third pill (not taken in one night, but just third time taking E) what a load of crap.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

each cap of E is going to contain different things. i wouldn't trust highschool presentations because, fuck, they're obviously going to make it sound worse than it is. there were posters in my highschool of skeletons dancing at a rave and the poster said that E causes heart attacks in many teenagers after their third pill (not taken in one night, but just third time taking E) what a load of crap.

Gotta love modern forms of "harm reduction", hey?

*sigh*

Back before I ever even tried E, my mom was all paranoid I was doing it. I knew way more than most people who did it about what it is, what it does to you, how it affects the brain. Both through my own research and through observation of my friends who did take it.

So one day my mom sits me down to watch a clip from CSI where they start to talk about a study in which the long-term effects of MDMA are discussed. They talk about permanent seratonin depletion and whatnot. After the clip, my mum tells me that she wanted to make sure that I saw that.

Me: "Have you seen any of the evidence the claims they're making are based on?"
Mum: "No."
Me: "Funny. I have. Dude got discredited for falsifying information on that study about 3 months after it came out."
Mum: "..."
Me: "Howzabout I learn my information about that stuff from actual peer-reviewed sources rather than some television show?"
Mum: "..."

I hate CSI. They get things just accurate enough that when they do do a factual fuckup everybody still assumes their "facts" as Word of God or something. If you want facts, go read some journal articles (That doesn't mean Newsweek).

[onefour]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

If you want facts, go read some journal articles (That doesn't mean Newsweek).

But i fucking love news week :261:

[NekoRaver]

Originally Posted by Neko-Kun

"Ecstasy Rising" was a one hour documentary made by ABC, a major broadcasting company in the U.S. They suggest that neurotoxicity and tolerance is reduced if you space out the experiences by no less than a month apart, based on the time needed for your brain to replenish the serotonin levels that MDMA releases. Vitamin C and E, as well as multivitamins help get rid of the oxidative stress caused by MDMA which if taken properly can drastically reduce both neurotoxicity and tolerance.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma...article3.shtml This is the article and statistical information on the benefits of using Antioxidants.

http://pot.tv/archive/shows/pottvshowse-2610.html And this is a link to the documentary "Ecstasy Rising" on the Pot TV website, watch it completely though, as it is very misleading if stopped midway :)

Okay this last page of posts has actually been quite depressing. People believe so many myths, and don't take the time to research. Before I ever touched E I made sure I knew every little thing about it. It's a DRUG. Know your substance people! Watch that video I gave a link to, it's ALL facts and not biased in any sense. It covers the entire history of E, myths, facts and the topic of neurotoxicity. Watch it or continue to look like a fool and post saying E fucks with your spinal cord. Protect yourself, know your shit and what you may be getting into as well as the risks.

P.S Get a testing kit! :)

/end rant

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by onefour

But i fucking love news week :261:

Newsweek is a mainstream media source.

I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about Journals... periodicals... peer-reviewed academic journals. The kind of thing you need to go to a University to look up.

[onefour]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Newsweek is a mainstream media source.

I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about Journals... periodicals... peer-reviewed academic journals. The kind of thing you need to go to a University to look up.

ill just stick to eorwid :p

[ebbomega]

It's not as reliable as raver-druggies make it out to be. I never really consider the Internet to be valid research tactics. Can point you in directions, but single sources are never the answer.

[onefour]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

It's not as reliable as raver-druggies make it out to be. I never really consider the Internet to be valid research tactics. Can point you in directions, but single sources are never the answer.

erowid has multiple articles on every topic you can imagine and 50% of those topics have at least 10 different refrences friom books and papers; its pretty reliable imo

[cheebus420]

Isn't it hilarious when you're playing an arcade game high, and all of a sudden a screen goes on saying "Winners Don't Use Drugs!"

[abstruse]

wow i watched the whole video and its really cool.
but yeah you are right you ahve to watch the whole thing.
the first half just makes you want to do it

[Cranke65]

Ok, I haven't yet watched the video, but I intend on it... Does it have any sources with credentials? If it doesn't state it's information, then really you're no better than anyone else who just believes the first article they read. When I posted that website, I wasn't saying it was all cold hard facts or anything... it was just some of the information I'd gotten.

[IntakE]

Originally Posted by GoodFlow

drug test...... if this drug test picks up any meth .. omg............. i'm fucked over u donut understand

hahaha...sorry to laugh, but the obviouse way to keep out of this situation is to not to drugs.

[NekoRaver]

Originally Posted by Cranke65

Ok, I haven't yet watched the video, but I intend on it... Does it have any sources with credentials? If it doesn't state it's information, then really you're no better than anyone else who just believes the first article they read. When I posted that website, I wasn't saying it was all cold hard facts or anything... it was just some of the information I'd gotten.

Yes the video's sources is clinical research which compares fallacies to facts based on discredited research and new research.. as well as covers the entire history of E, has testimonials and also covers medical usage I.E for post tramatic stress AND all about neurotoxicity... Well the video explains all that. It's too late for me to think, just watch it lol :)

[abstruse]

Neko-kun
thanks for the video. it was long but totally worth it

[Cosmos]

i dont like to agree that there is draino or any of it's affiliates in E, if there actually were all these raw shit eating chemicals in it...why aren't more people dying..meh..i still refuse to beleive it's an ingredient.

anyways, back to the original question..im pretty sure E only lasts in your body for 48 hours. i took a drug test that long after dropping E and passed.

drug tests should be banned, it's no ones buisness what goes into ones body anyways. next thing you know they'll start reading minds!

[NekoRaver]

Originally Posted by abstruse

Neko-kun
thanks for the video. it was long but totally worth it

Anytime :)

[-Dubs-]

it is a drug!
its gona be fun!
but you know it is gona fuck you up in one way or another, and with perminant side effects.

weigh your options and do it, or dont do it..... simple!

[PaIniNyErAnUs]

Originally Posted by IntakE

hahaha...sorry to laugh, but the obviouse way to keep out of this situation is to not to drugs.

umm yes...

[crookedking]

i hope that it stays in me forever and ever! that way i'll never be alone! i'll be with PLUR!

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by crookedking

i hope that it stays in me forever and ever! that way i'll never be alone! i'll be with PLUR!

Seriously, dude.

You want some Vick's or something?