Wow the glory of mdma dies fast

[liquidblue]

*looking for constructive help, not criticism. If your here to criticise you are in the wrong thread, not to mention the wrong part of this forum*


Well unfortunatly it looks like my glory days of ecstacy use are rapidly coming to an end. Iv done the drug a total of about 9 tims over the course of three years... a bit more than usual latley, just because iv been raving so much. Anyways looks like the drug finally got me, and I dont get nearly the same feeling s as I useto with it (only 9 times, wow what a jip) lol anyways im not a dumbass, and since the negative effects are starting to outweigh the postive effects of the substance Im planning to either use it very infrequently or not at all. As much as Ill miss the euphoric bliss, i dont really get those feelings anymore and franky I have almost as much fun dancing sober now..

...but to my Delemma- I get tired and start being not so fun to party with at the end of raves after 3am if im not on e. I want to be able to dance all night long. And seeing as I transit home Im not going to be leaving raves b4 the end anytime soon... so I need an alternative to get me hyped up and engery filled. So whats gunna keep me dancing till 7 am with energy to burn and flail, and keep me happy? (im talking leagal shit here, nothing like speed or coke :P)

I dont have any experiance with caffine pills, and I dont really feel like buying a container full if they arnt goign to work. What do people know works as an energy booster well? I find a cup of coffee really doesnt wake me up, so im starting to doubt wheather caffine will. Same goes with ephedrine.. like I guess it doesnt make me tired but i dno if it really wakes me up.


So what do people use/ know works?


thanks all

[ja_raul]

ive learned to take a couple red bulls before each rave. if the drugs wear off, then at least the taurine and guarana will keep me awake. i hope you dont become a jaded raver now .. "OH SHIT DRUGS ARE HORRIBLE I DONT KNOW WHY I DID THEM, YOU SHOULD NEVER DO THEM" kind of deal.

congrats on your decision, and heres hoping you find a healthier substitute of energy for your nights out

[FeelGood]

double pop.
hasn't failed me yet.
lol :230:

[matéo]

yeah man just take more.

[sh4un]

I havent touched the stuff in years now
but alot of my friends still do it

and they do like 8caps a night if not more
apparently the shit out there is crap
the quality is getting worse and worse it seems

im not saying there isnt good shit out there but its probably just the caps you are doing.

[crackdragon]

Just keep on dancing if at all possible, I find that if I can keep on moving then the fatigue takes longer to set in. Alcohol seems works every once in awhile. Other then that theres not a whole lot legal one can take other then caffeine of course but the come down is horrid imo.

On a side note the mdma prob wasnt what was keeping you going or giving you alot of the unwanted side effects (of course all depending on whatever they may be). Its more then likely the meth cut with your e

[Lenny]

stay in good shape. a half hour run every day will have you raving harder than ever.

[ebbomega]

Or, you know, maybe it is time for a break?

I started about a year and a half ago, and I've popped probably... 10 or so times total? Still not wearing down on me heavily, provided I keep to MDMA/MDA and don't bother with presstabs (uck meth). I find if it's getting pointless to me, I stop doing it. Plain and simple. If at some later juncture I feel like I haven't done it in a while and wanna do it again I'll decide to do it then.

Currently, I haven't had any since September, and I'm thinking maybe next weekend....

[wishbone]

ive popped maybe 10-12 times in the past 3 years....i dunno, i keep it minimal each time always less than one and a half. just top for awhile see how it goes man :)

[Vitamin-X]

hmm from what I'v read it takes about a month for your brain to recover completely from an E trip. And a couple of weeks after that for your high to be as good as when you first tried it. If you use it often (like every week) you get more and more temporary seretonin receptor axion damage, until the effects fade. Although effects should return with time.


I'm in somewhat of the same boat as you in the effects department, and I don't want to double it up and chase highs with more pills. So i'm going to leave it alone until winter breaks :)

[liquidblue]

Ya im definatly not going to get jaded at all. That way of thinking is so ignorant it pisses me off to no end everytime I see someone wrting about how bad drugs are. especially when they have so little knowledge about them.. oh grr now im getting off on a rant, i better stop b4 i get going.

Ya, i figured that my body would rejuvy after a month, but like at dooms i poped a tab of the same stuff iv been using since summer and it barley made any difference, and i haddent popped in a whole month at all. Took another tab a few hours later and same thing, barley high. same tabs from the same batch. Sooo its definatly my brain adapting to the mdma. The pills i get arnt cut with meth, but they are particularly weak. I know they are not cut cuz i know exactly where they come from, have tested them etc. And i know what a speedy pill feels like.

Ahh well hopefully sometime in the future i come across some better stuff and iv rejuvey enough to roll again... but untill then its time to give the Serotonin axons in my brain a little rest.

[justShell]

glad your on the no e bandwagon with me! taking e just makes you spend more money cause you want to do more and more. or try new stuff .. RETARDED I SAY! I TELL YOU RETARDED. but yeah. i want to find something to give me energy as well that is not in the drug department. hope we both find something helpfull. as im not one to normally leave a party early either

[Disco_Whore]

Welcome to the world of partying sober! (or atleast drug free, liquor's fun)

My main advice (which I find hilarious that so few people EVER realise) is that you should bring yourslef some food! Energy drinks/bars and juice are also good. I don't know how harsh security still is at parties in Van (I remember the plaza hardly let anything in just to keep the carpet clean) but if they give you trouble tell em you're diabetic/anemic or something like that.

Keep in mind that naps are also your friend, or even just a bit of physical down time. Your body needs some rest, and it can be spent just chilling with friends for an hour or so.

[sidekick]

it just takes stamina. i think that you need to teach your body to be able to stay awake and dance for those long periods of time without drugs. drink some redbull and don't let yourself sit down.

[liquidblue]

Originally Posted by Disco_Whore

Welcome to the world of partying sober! (or atleast drug free, liquor's fun)

My main advice (which I find hilarious that so few people EVER realise) is that you should bring yourslef some food! Energy drinks/bars and juice are also good. I don't know how harsh security still is at parties in Van (I remember the plaza hardly let anything in just to keep the carpet clean) but if they give you trouble tell em you're diabetic/anemic or something like that.

Keep in mind that naps are also your friend, or even just a bit of physical down time. Your body needs some rest, and it can be spent just chilling with friends for an hour or so.

Ya security sucks, they are incredibly scrict, especially at events at the maritime. I think i could stay awake with good food, but alas you cant ever get good food at raves + its so expensive. This sober shit is gunna break the bank, lol.

If they sold powerbars for like $4 or something that would be sweet. But I dont see that happening anytime soon. I bet if they carried powerbars most places would charge like $8 for a fregan energy bar. Grrr.

[impure]

[quote=liquidblueand since the negative effects are starting to outweigh the postive effects of the substance Im planning to either use it very infrequently or not at all.
thanks all[/QUOTE]

the fact that you figured that out is good.
if you stick by your convictions, that's AWESOME.

[Jen-E-03]

I just plain dont like to do E very much. Whenever i do it I have to write off the entire next day and chill at home feeling like shit. It's just not fun anymore :(... Alcohol will always be my number 1 lol :P

[-evil-duerr-]

Your legal answer is


Dextroamphetamine
Brand name: Dexedrine

All you gotta do is convince the doctor that you have Add or adhd (convincing doctors for prescriptions is very easy). Just list off all the typical add symptoms, tell him that you cant function in the world and need some sort of way to focus.

http://www.mentalhealth.com/drug/p30-d04.html

[Disco_Whore]

Originally Posted by liquidblue

Ya security sucks, they are incredibly scrict, especially at events at the maritime. I think i could stay awake with good food, but alas you cant ever get good food at raves + its so expensive. This sober shit is gunna break the bank, lol.

If they sold powerbars for like $4 or something that would be sweet. But I dont see that happening anytime soon. I bet if they carried powerbars most places would charge like $8 for a fregan energy bar. Grrr.

That's what I figured, don't they realise they're only encouraging drug use when they don't have a concession with any REAL food? Ah well. My best friend for the past 2 years has been my trusty flask...big enough to hold 6oz yet small enough that I haven't had it taken away yet! Hmmm come to think of it, if I can stash a flask on me, I'm quite certain you could sneak a powerbar or two in. The worst they could do is throw it out.

[baby-phat]

Originally Posted by Disco_Whore

Hmmm come to think of it, if I can stash a flask on me, I'm quite certain you could sneak a powerbar or two in. The worst they could do is throw it out.

"What's that I feel near your pocket young man?"
"Um, it's just my power bar.."
"Your what now?"
:p hehe

[Vitamin-X]

Apparently everyone has a set of genes that deals with seretonin.I believe they are called Sert genes.

If your sert genes are "long" you recover much much better from a night on E.
If they're of the "short" variety you recover rather poorly.
ecte ect ect

[decypher]

Just work your way into an anxiety disorder then the doctors will pump you full of clorazapam to level you off for the rest of your life.

[fable]

Originally Posted by decypher

Just work your way into an anxiety disorder then the doctors will pump you full of clorazapam to level you off for the rest of your life.

there were quite a few ladies hooked on em in rehab! Aka synthetic opiates, ugly stuff!

[Liqwid]

Originally Posted by eighty5

double pop.
hasn't failed me yet.
lol :230:

or like 1 and a 1/2

.dalyn.

[decypher]

Originally Posted by fable

there were quite a few ladies hooked on em in rehab! Aka synthetic opiates, ugly stuff!

Your thinking of stuff like percocets, oxycodone. clorezapam is stronger then ativan, levels you out like a robot. Insanely addictive for alcoholics to take them.