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Old Nov 17, 06
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new pc: need suggestions

well after searching for a xternal 1tb hd ive come 2 the conclusion that spendin that much money is pointless
i live by the slogan go big or go home. so b4 i buy an apartment ima splurge on a new pc.

ive been out of the loop for soo long now and i dont have a clue wat 2 get
basically im gunna get some suggestions and then take it 2 ncix for them 2 build it.

my main focus is audio editing, but i also want it for games....
make some suggestions on wat specific mobo/cpu 2 get wat ram
wat hd's

(soundcard i already have)

lookin 2 spend 3g hopefully including monitor in that price range

ps: im slightly buzzed makin this post so please excuse the bad grammer and spellin errors
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Old Nov 17, 06
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Old Nov 18, 06
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I can build you a pretty kick ass computer for about that. I spent around 2 on mine and most people (who know their computers) seem to be impressed with it, and it serves me well.

PM me with what you want your computer to do.
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Old Nov 18, 06
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http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/

it really depends on if you want the high end or mid range pc

if you buy the high end now, the price is super high, yet in couple months it will become cheaper and something new & better (and more expensive) will come out

so it's really up to you if you are willing to sacrifice the money

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Old Nov 18, 06
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yah technology is a never ending game, i can w8 and get the higher end things cheaper, but then theres just gunna be sumn new i want... u cant win
and the fact is my comp sucks now and its time...
i know a fair bit and i know sorta wat i want im not a newb, i just dont know wat wood be the best chips 2 get... quality wise i want sumn thats gunna last



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http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/

it really depends on if you want the high end or mid range pc

if you buy the high end now, the price is super high, yet in couple months it will become cheaper and something new & better (and more expensive) will come out

so it's really up to you if you are willing to sacrifice the money
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Old Nov 18, 06
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hold out 4/5 months and buy a quad chip for under $500
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Old Nov 18, 06
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hold out 4/5 months and buy a quad chip for under $500
thats way 2 long....
and then after thats down
w8 another 6months and the next best thing will be cheaper
im getting it now!!!!
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Old Nov 20, 06
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k i got an idea
http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.p...latformid=1000
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Old Nov 20, 06
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the things im unsure of now are
ram? obviously get lots
but wat brand?
wat model?

and vidcard?
my price range has gone up a lil bit
anywhere around 4g
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Old Nov 20, 06
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slim down and do dual monitors man, its well worth it!!
I'll never go back
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Old Nov 20, 06
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I agree 100%, it's the only way to go.

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slim down and do dual monitors man, its well worth it!!
I'll never go back
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Old Nov 20, 06
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wow for that price I'd probably buy a dual 3Ghz mac pro and dual boot windows and osx on it. The only issue would be the video card, since they are meant to be workstations, not gaming machines.
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Old Nov 21, 06
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slim down and do dual monitors man, its well worth it!!
I'll never go back
yah shit i know duals the way 2 go
but i have bad eyes
i want a nice sharp monitor
i can get dual later
im not cheapin out on my processor speed just for some eye candy
quality 1rst!

im just lost on wats the leading vidcard/ best ram for the buck
i dont wanna pick shit parts just cus they're xpensive doesnt mean they're gunna be the best... know wat i mean?
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Old Nov 21, 06
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Most of what you've chosen are all great parts. The power supply you've chosen is definitely overkill though. The only time you'd need to consider a 1000W power supply is if you're running dual Geforce 7950 cards. Since you're not, and you're running a system that isn't capable of SLI (only Crossfire, and ATI has nothing out at the moment that can compete with the 8800GTX), something in the 600W range will be more than enough.

RAM, so long as you get a good brand name, pretty well anything will work well. I usually use OCZ or Kingston stuff myself. If you want RAM with the same timings as the Mushkin set you've got, Kingston has a HyperX kit that's about $20 cheaper per kit. If you need to save money, go for one of the HyperX kits that's miminally slower (4-5-4 instead of 4-4-4), and you'll save almost $300. Performance wise, you would never notice the difference.

For hard drive(s), I'd go for either the Western Digital RE or Seagate Nearline series of drives. They come with 5-year warranties, and have a longer MTBF.
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Old Nov 21, 06
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now thats the kind of reply i was lookin for
yah the power supply i just picked for a random price,
i heard mushkin was good shit tho from sum1...
but another friend of mine recommended kingston
so i think ill look into that more

thanks!

http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.p...latformid=1000
updated

any info on making the comp run silent?
any1 warnings or info on cooling?



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Most of what you've chosen are all great parts. The power supply you've chosen is definitely overkill though. The only time you'd need to consider a 1000W power supply is if you're running dual Geforce 7950 cards. Since you're not, and you're running a system that isn't capable of SLI (only Crossfire, and ATI has nothing out at the moment that can compete with the 8800GTX), something in the 600W range will be more than enough.

RAM, so long as you get a good brand name, pretty well anything will work well. I usually use OCZ or Kingston stuff myself. If you want RAM with the same timings as the Mushkin set you've got, Kingston has a HyperX kit that's about $20 cheaper per kit. If you need to save money, go for one of the HyperX kits that's miminally slower (4-5-4 instead of 4-4-4), and you'll save almost $300. Performance wise, you would never notice the difference.

For hard drive(s), I'd go for either the Western Digital RE or Seagate Nearline series of drives. They come with 5-year warranties, and have a longer MTBF.
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Old Nov 21, 06
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now thats the kind of reply i was lookin for
yah the power supply i just picked for a random price,
i heard mushkin was good shit tho from sum1...
but another friend of mine recommended kingston
so i think ill look into that more

thanks!

http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.p...latformid=1000
updated

any info on making the comp run silent?
any1 warnings or info on cooling?
Mushkin isn't bad memory by any means, but I've just always used mainly Kingston and OCZ. In that system builder, you did choose the wrong type though. This is the one you want: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...cture=Kingston.

If you're looking for silent, there's a few things that'll have to be changed. I'd probably go for an Antec P180 case instead of the Coolermaster. It's got some sound insulating material in it already.

For a silent power supply, I've always used Seasonic S12s: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...12-600HT-F3BLR. NCIX also has one that is rated to be quieter, at 14DB: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...%20Corporation.

For processor cooling, Scythe is pretty well the best out there. Combine this cooler: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...facture=Scythe with their 8DB fan: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...facture=Scythe and you got a very quiet setup.

For the video card, I don't think I've seen a compatible quiet cooler yet. I'll see if I can dig something up though. If there isn't anything yet, even with all the above items, you'll still have a pretty noisy system.
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Old Nov 21, 06
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i'm not an intel fan, but to each of his own
right now i have athlon64 x2 3800+ (clocked at 2.6ghz & running Big Typhoon fan)

for your list (http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.p...latformid=1000):

i'd change some of these to:

it's the best cpu fan out there, it's huge but works the best, might not be as silent but it cools down and good for overclocking!!!
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...re=THERMALTAKE

for your motherboard, i'd suggest you to get SLI compatable (2 PCI-E 16 slots)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=ASUS

for your ram, get at least 2gb and overclockable ones
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...Z%20Technology

for an silent SLI powersupply
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...Z%20Technology

for the video card, get the BFG or EVGAs
(BFG - watercooled, very quiet but expensive) http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...20Technologies

OR
(EVGA)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=eVGA
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Old Nov 21, 06
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I'm curious as to why everyone is choosing a single double core conroe processor over two dual core woodcrest xenon processors with 1333Mhz bus?
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Old Nov 21, 06
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rustybob i owe yah some great info!
im gunna make a few more mods 2nite wen im off work...
im almost thinkin off downin it abit to dual up the monitors i chose
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Old Nov 21, 06
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Old Nov 22, 06
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Old Nov 22, 06
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Wow, I wouldn't spend $1200 on 4GB of RAM. That's brutal. 1000MHz RAM definitely isn't needed, unless you're doing some crazy overclocking. Since you chose the E6700 chip, and because of the nature of the machine, I'd say that's probably not what you're going to be doing. 800MHz 4-4-4-12 RAM from Kingston is half the price, and will work just fine for you.

One thing I just noticed is that you have a regual 4:3 screen. That, of course, isn't a bad thing, but I personally find widescreens better for audio/video/CAD editing, because you can get more toolbars on the screen at once. That's totally your choice, but it might be something to consider.
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Old Nov 22, 06
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yah i was actually thinkin widescreen @ the start but im gunna go dual...
so that shood be fine i want a high quality monitor and 1600x1200
thats 1 thing i really didnt wanna do is spend over a G on ram
once again some good suggestions

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Wow, I wouldn't spend $1200 on 4GB of RAM. That's brutal. 1000MHz RAM definitely isn't needed, unless you're doing some crazy overclocking. Since you chose the E6700 chip, and because of the nature of the machine, I'd say that's probably not what you're going to be doing. 800MHz 4-4-4-12 RAM from Kingston is half the price, and will work just fine for you.

One thing I just noticed is that you have a regual 4:3 screen. That, of course, isn't a bad thing, but I personally find widescreens better for audio/video/CAD editing, because you can get more toolbars on the screen at once. That's totally your choice, but it might be something to consider.
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Old Nov 22, 06
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http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.p...latformid=1000

now i think im almost ready, price is lookin better...
now i was lookin @ this cm stacker case quite awhile ago
i like the size of it but is all that room really necisarry
is that crossflow fan really necisarry?
is there a case that ill be more happy with?

im a lil bit of a neat freak so i want the comp 2 look clean and sumwat match
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Old Nov 22, 06
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http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.p...latformid=1000

now i think im almost ready, price is lookin better...
now i was lookin @ this cm stacker case quite awhile ago
i like the size of it but is all that room really necisarry
is that crossflow fan really necisarry?
is there a case that ill be more happy with?

im a lil bit of a neat freak so i want the comp 2 look clean and sumwat match
That system's looking pretty solid now.

For the case, I'd say it's probably not necessary, but that's totally up to you. The Stacker can hold a crazy amount of drives, but you've got one hard drive, a floppy, and two opticals You can fit that into a much smaller, nicer case. With cases though, everything is a matter of preference. Some people buy based on looks, and what looks good to me might look ugly to you. Some people buy based on function (quietness, number of drives, etc.),

My personal favourite base that is a good balance between looks and function is the Antec P180. It's insanely heavy (especially for an aluminum case), but it's quiet, can hold 6 hard drives, i believe four optical drives, and the outside looks of it are decent. I personally think the Stacker looks ugly, but if you think you might ever need that amount of drives, that's the way to go.
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