So How about that Kesler, eh?

[Antenna_Boy]

Okay, so far this $1.9 million an annual salary player has not been able to prove he is worthy of such a piece of pie. Kesler seems to just be skating around looking for opportunites to score rather than putting up a grinding effort and generating the scoring chances. I have been more impressed with the avg. $600, 000 salary of the likes of Bieksa AND Lukas Krajicek chipping offensively. Other than waiting on this "star player" to show what he is made of...what are your opinions as to his NHL season start? Come the NHL trading deadline, I would like to see something happen if Ryan does not show up more at his teams hockey games. Hmmmm, Carter for Kesler? :mexitoke:

[Hot Karl]

kesler can't be traded this year. when a player has that shit that happened to kesler, you have to keep him for that contract year. so we're fucked no matter what.

i've always said he's a glorified 3rd liner. so this isn't a shock, i'm expecting him to have maybe 25-30pts this year. i will say it sure ain't his fault clarke made the offer, but he'll take a lot of shit this year for it.

/cheering for a kesler career ender. then we get him off the salary this year and maybe actually pick some one up. especially considering that 1.9 pays a shitload of salary if we just need to pick someone up for 2 months. :D

[KenJi]

Originally Posted by Hot Karl

i've always said he's a glorified 3rd liner. so this isn't a shock, i'm expecting him to have maybe 25-30pts this year. i will say it sure ain't his fault clarke made the offer, but he'll take a lot of shit this year for it.

Nonis also did not have to match, but that comes with the extreme faith they put in a kessler.

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by Hot Karl

/cheering for a kesler career ender. then we get him off the salary this year and maybe actually pick some one up. especially considering that 1.9 pays a shitload of salary if we just need to pick someone up for 2 months. :D

Unless the guy starts to produce, it makes no sense for us to be wanting him injured so as to end his career....a groin sprain would be nice though. Hmmm...send Kelser down to the farm in return for someone who is actually producing in an idea, and at least Kesler will have Wade Flaherty to talk to as well hahah.

[Antenna_Boy]

2 goals on the season for Pyatt...fuck all for Kesler...the scoreless saga continues for kessy

[KenJi]

Originally Posted by Antenna_Boy

Unless the guy starts to produce, it makes no sense for us to be wanting him injured so as to end his career....a groin sprain would be nice though. Hmmm...send Kelser down to the farm in return for someone who is actually producing in an idea, and at least Kesler will have Wade Flaherty to talk to as well hahah.

I think Karl means a serious injury aka look at the devils and mogilny.

They were over the cap limit but because the NHL considers mogilny's injury severe. They don't h ave to cover h is salary hence devils were able to sign more players.

If Kessler were to seriously get injured and deemed season ending injuries or along those lines we could take off his 1.9 million salary off our cap limit I believe anyways.

[Cory J]

You can't hold Kessler to $1.9 million standards. He's an $800,000 player. The only reason that he's making the money that he is now is because Nonis took too long to sign him. I think that he'll be worth the cash in a couple of years and we just have to eat it now due to some poor GM'ing on Nonis' part.

[KenJi]

i can see 1.3 million worth in a maybe a few years. A BIG MAYBE!!

but 1.9 is pretty much the same as 2 million.

i would have just let Clarke get him. Even if he turns into a decent better scorer. Just means his salary will not go up even more. If nonis is smart though and that time comes he should just not re sign him and let kessler walk this time cause w all know kessler will go to arbritation to try and get like his 3 million+ salary that he will want since he started at 1.9 million.

Comes down to this for me. I wanted Nonis to dump Kessler *a prospect still thats unproven and doesn't seem to be going anywhere other than he's a good skater* to philly and bobby clarke.

We could have signed a decent forward *prob not carter cause he was almost gone for sure* but we could have brought some balance to our lines.

dude look at the balance we got. sedins +naslund THATS IT. Top 6 forwards don't exist for us lol

[BongMan]

Originally Posted by Cory J

You can't hold Kessler to $1.9 million standards. He's an $800,000 player. The only reason that he's making the money that he is now is because Nonis took too long to sign him. I think that he'll be worth the cash in a couple of years and we just have to eat it now due to some poor GM'ing on Nonis' part.

So it is Nonis's fault that Clarke is a POS

[Cory J]

Originally Posted by BongMan

So it is Nonis's fault that Clarke is a POS

It is Nonis' fault that he took his time to sign Kessler. What Clarke did was a smart piece of gm'ing. I would have done the same thing if I was Clarke.

[Mangle]

Originally Posted by KenJi

Nonis also did not have to match, but that comes with the extreme faith they put in a kessler.

Kinda like the faith we put in Bertuzzi last year.

[KenJi]

^ yep and cloutier.

[esoter1c]

I only like Kesler because he punched Iginla in the face a few times.

Other than that he's a rookie that needs 2 to 3 years before he's anything.

We'll never know just what made the nux give this kid 2 mill.

Maybe his sister is a trampy lil ho. :285:

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by Cory J

You can't hold Kessler to $1.9 million standards. He's an $800,000 player. The only reason that he's making the money that he is now is because Nonis took too long to sign him. I think that he'll be worth the cash in a couple of years and we just have to eat it now due to some poor GM'ing on Nonis' part.

we could have done the same with the Sedin twins too...I think if Brian Burke was GM, he'd ship Kelser to Alaska before he'd sign the ink on the dotted line. Salary speaks for itself...and that is where the business side comes to play. He is getting paid to produce...and NOT for potential he has not shown yet. The Sedins went up the salary scale step by step..I think if a player demands more, he will not be a better player..just more of a whiner. Kelser is pushing himself too hard, and THAT is affecting his game. That is the case I wanted to bring up

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by BongMan

So it is Nonis's fault that Clarke is a POS

Other way around..Clarke made NONIS look like a POS hahaha

[Mangle]

Originally Posted by Antenna_Boy

Other way around..Clarke made NONIS look like a POS hahaha

Meh, they're both dicks. It ws nice to see Nonis say "Bob Clarke would push his mother down the stairs if he thought it would help him win" in the media, though.

[Antenna_Boy]

hahahah^ yeah... :(

[Goodfellow]

Kessler knows 1 friggin play, which is chip it around the defenseman and try to beat him to the corner.... WOOOO ! he's usually too far ahead of everyone so both D men just doubleteam him.

[Hot Karl]

Originally Posted by Cory J

It is Nonis' fault that he took his time to sign Kessler. What Clarke did was a smart piece of gm'ing. I would have done the same thing if I was Clarke.

LOL so let me get this straight. you're basically saying nonis fucked up because he didn't rank kesler has a high enough priority to resign during this off season?

let's see, he had to work deals for the twins, create the luongo/bert deal, try to get carter back, signed mitchell. that's top 2 forwards, top 1

but his priority according to you should have been a 3rd line player.

please explain to me how a manager(clarke) raising salaries across the board for players who DO NOT deserve that sort of raise is smart managment? that shit has a trickle down effect to every team.

because in the real world, it's called poor management, exactly the opposite of what you're talking about.

[Hot Karl]

Originally Posted by Antenna_Boy

Unless the guy starts to produce, it makes no sense for us to be wanting him injured so as to end his career....a groin sprain would be nice though. Hmmm...send Kelser down to the farm in return for someone who is actually producing in an idea, and at least Kesler will have Wade Flaherty to talk to as well hahah.

sending him to the farm wouldn't do shit. well, it'd give us a 1.9million dollar farm player, so that's kinda funny. but that's all. he's on a 1 way contract.

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by Hot Karl

sending him to the farm wouldn't do shit. well, it'd give us a 1.9million dollar farm player, so that's kinda funny. but that's all. he's on a 1 way contract.

sending him to the farm team will allow the vancouver canucks to bring in a player from the farm team who actually KNOWS how to PRODUCE goals and or scoring plays. That'll show up Kesler.