Free Money if you Drink or Smoke

[d.b.o.]

Joy
I get $25 dollars an hour to help marketers come up with more effective ways to push alcohol and cigarettes on young people
What a deal!
If there were more people like you I'd have full time work right now

[bob]

omg who the fuck cares
YES I'M WILLING TO HELP SOME MURDEROUS CONGLOMERATES EXPAND THEIR EMPIRE!!!!
EVEN WORSE -- SIR K PUT ME UP TO IT!!!!!

rawb, i don't see how the money isn't free... do i have to buy my own smokes or something? is it a $50 gift certificate to something that i'll never buy/doesn't even exist? do i have to sign my life over to John Player's Light or something? i'm sorry, NO i do not see how this is not free money because i'm not a genius like you, please, PLEASE enlighten me...

fuck it's not like i'm going anyways, wtf

[Sue Bitch]

would we be able to lie about our age at all???? lol

[rawb]

the money isn't free. in fact, they're getting way more than $50 information out of you. be as sarcastic as you want, but at least in one case you are helping tobbacco people sell cigs to young people.

if you have no quams about young people getting an addictive, life shortening habit due to info you give some guy, then by all means go ahead. but really the stuff you give them for free is going to net them fat sacks of cash. you're being used. 50 bucks is piddly change if what they find out lands them one more smoker for life.

[ice]

Originally posted by ~fORM®:
is it just one giant puff off?

Thought you quit Lex?

[d.b.o.]

Originally posted by bob:
omg who the fuck cares
YES I'M WILLING TO HELP SOME MURDEROUS CONGLOMERATES EXPAND THEIR EMPIRE!!!!
EVEN WORSE -- SIR K PUT ME UP TO IT!!!!!

I care. In fact, I know a lot of dedicated people who care. I've spent a lot of time in highschools educating ignorant 17 yr. olds such as yourself. Maybe if your lucky I'll come to your highschool this fall.

rawb, i don't see how the money isn't free... do i have to buy my own smokes or something? is it a $50 gift certificate to something that i'll never buy/doesn't even exist? do i have to sign my life over to John Player's Light or something? i'm sorry, NO i do not see how this is not free money because i'm not a genius like you, please, PLEASE enlighten me...

fuck it's not like i'm going anyways, wtf

you, like most people your age, seem to appreciate... sarcasm so I'll put this in language you can understand

OMG THESE CORPORATIONS ARE SUCH SUCKERS!!!!
THEY'RE JUST JUST GONNA GIVE ME $50 FOR FREE. FUCK THEY'RE STUPID.
ME AND ALL MY FRIENDS ARE GONNA SHOW UP AT THIS MARKET RESEARCH SEMINAR AND GET THIS MONEY FOR FREE.
BECAUSE THIS IS HOW THESE CORPORATIONS GOT RICH IN THE FIRST PLACE...THEY GIVE AWAY LOTS OF MONEY FOR FREE WITHOUT GETTING ANYTHING THAT'S MORE VALUABLE IN RETURN. FUCK THE FIRST RULE OF ECONOMICS!
THEY'RE JUST A BUNCH OF STUPID GOOD SAMIRITANS WHO WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE $50 FOR NO APPARENT REASON FOR FREE WITH ABSOLUTELY NO STRINGS ATTACHED!!!!

[prozac]

wierd...

...if i was 19...

[oliver]

^ glad some ppl are actually putting some thought into what goes on around them and not blindly running through life.

nothing is free. certainly not this.

[Starberry]

d.b.o....I hope you're not an English teacher.....=)

*Jen*

[d.b.o.]

I blame irc for the deterrioration of my writing
Fortunately, we don't make the kids write us papers

[Sir_K]

jesus..

I just posted something where people could make an easy few bucks. If you're not into it, dont go. Dont whine and cry about how someone else could or may or is thinking about it. People make their own choices. Theres no minors so everyone is a consenting adult.

fawk left wing or what. let people think for themselves

[bob]

OK RAWB & DBO ANSWER ME THIS

what valuable information are the cigarette companies gonna get from me by giving me $50, and watching me smoke for 2 hours... that they're not gonna get if they sat at starbucks for a couple hours while i'm huffing away on my lunch break?


go fucken join greenpeace
i'd rather make a company $50 poorer rather than run around with a cardboard protest sign and achieve nothing.

[oliver]

Originally posted by Sir_K:
jesus..

fawk left wing or what. let people think for themselves

thats what he is doing. DBo and Rawb are encouraging ppl to think for themselves, think about issues, rather than just saying "FREE MONEY!??! IM THERE!!"

[rawb]

Originally posted by Sir_K:
jesus..

I just posted something where people could make an easy few bucks. If you're not into it, dont go. Dont whine and cry about how someone else could or may or is thinking about it. People make their own choices. Theres no minors so everyone is a consenting adult.

fawk left wing or what. let people think for themselves

thanks kris. unfortunately you've proven on multiple occasions that you're inept with market research and promotion of a product. therefore, your limited knowledge is best kept to yourself. in short, shut up.

were not forcing anyone to do anything. we're actually helping people think for themselves by providing an alternate view. if you can't handle this please find the closest pillow and cry into it.

holy shit, facism much.

[rawb]

Originally posted by bob:
OK RAWB & DBO ANSWER ME THIS

what valuable information are the cigarette companies gonna get from me by giving me $50, and watching me smoke for 2 hours... that they're not gonna get if they sat at starbucks for a couple hours while i'm huffing away on my lunch break?

how do you know theyre going to sit there and watch you smoke?

go fucken join greenpeace
i'd rather make a company $50 poorer rather than run around with a cardboard protest sign and achieve nothing.

what does this have to do with greenpeace or protesting?

[bob]

rawb... greenpeace has nothing to do with this
you're just acting like a knowitall activist
*look i'm hardcore cuz i read a book about anti-capitalism! now i can be a snotface to all the jerkass consumers*


if they asked me questions or whatever, i'd give them a half-assed answer. and they give me $50...if they "learn" anything from me, HAHA that's their problem... if i boycott their marketing promo, then someone else takes the cheese... fuck... $50 for me is better than $50 for someone else IMHO... not everyone is against this shit like you rawb (i'm not saying i'm for it either), there's always gonna be someone to take the bait in this cookie-cutter nation, ... have your own kids and teach them not to be suckers like the rest of us sheep. don't get snotty with the dirty fucken ravers who just see $50 as $50...

[bob]

Originally posted by Junglet:


thats what he is doing. DBo and Rawb are encouraging ppl to think for themselves, think about issues, rather than just saying "FREE MONEY!??! IM THERE!!"

uhhhh... no they're encouraging us to think like DBO & RAWB... because they're "RIGHT"... if they wanted us to think about the issues, they could've broughten the topic up a little more maturely, rather than ragging on sir_k and bashing the tobacco industry...

if they stepped into this thread a little more formally, with facts and a mature presentation, i would respect their opinions a little more. but i'm not gonna listen to some yahoo try and stuff commie propaganda into my mouth.

i know that this marketing research is ultimately a "bad" thing... but it could've been brought to everyone's attention in a more suitable manner...

once again, $50 is $50... it's no different than working for the GAP cuz they probably monitor what you wear to work everyday and study you like a fucken guinea pig... 'cept they only pay you what? $50 a week?

[rawb]

Originally posted by bob:
rawb... greenpeace has nothing to do with this
you're just acting like a knowitall activist
*look i'm hardcore cuz i read a book about anti-capitalism! now i can be a snotface to all the jerkass consumers*

what does anything i say have to do with anti-capitalism?

i don't understand where you're coming from.

if they asked me questions or whatever, i'd give them a half-assed answer. and they give me $50...if they "learn" anything from me, HAHA that's their problem... if i boycott their marketing promo, then someone else takes the cheese... fuck... $50 for me is better than $50 for someone else IMHO... not everyone is against this shit like you rawb (i'm not saying i'm for it either), there's always gonna be someone to take the bait in this cookie-cutter nation, ... have your own kids and teach them not to be suckers like the rest of us sheep. don't get snotty with the dirty fucken ravers who just see $50 as $50...

that would be fine if it was market research for jam or telephones or burritos or whatever, but the marketing of cigarettes to young people is something i find incredibly wrong. there are a whole bunch of moral issues that go along with the marketing of addictive substances. sure some people may be suckers, but there's a difference between someone being a sucker for a jar of smuckers(cost $3.75!) and a person being a sucker for a lifetime of nicotine addiction.

if you don't agree with me morally that's super, but don't be blind to a bigger issue for the sake of ignorance.

[bob]

OMG WHERE DID YOU FIND SMUCKER'S JAM FOR $3.75!?!

/me dances around


OK thank you for the infoRAWB
plurMARLBOROFRIDAY

[zarlon]

Yeah man I want some free money too! HOOK THAT SHIT UP!!

..Thanks, I think I can handle getting a job someday and buying my own cigarettes, or spending my lunch money on them. -_-

[mushmellow]

ok this is one crazy opinionated thread...i think ill stay out of it....other then the comments....sir_k...i see that ur jus making a suggestion and alota people r raggin on ur ass...i feel bad for u...and to everyone else...you probably didnt change any minds of the people that want 50 bonez for doing nothing really....and its there choice...i know its stupid that there is this research...but there always will be...if people here dont go they will always just find more people that need $50 rite....so i dont think there should be any bitching.....everyone just think for yourselves and argue nicely.....this is a really interesting topic that i would like to see continuing.....

[Sir_K]

I'm amazed at how

"people 19-29 - get at least $25 / hr to answer some questions about alchohol & tobacco products" turns into:

marketing of cigarettes to young people

go get fucked in the ass by your HA hookups kris

your limited knowledge is best kept to yourself. in short, shut up.

you, like most people your age, seem to appreciate... sarcasm so I'll put this in language you can understand

marketers are superbad, mmkay kids?

you promoting something automatically means no one will show up...

Like, didnt these people listen to what their momma told them? If you dont have anything nice to say....

in short, shut up.

1. People 19 and over can think for themselves. Go ahead and point out specific points in your alternate point of view, its welcome go ahead. Dont try to tell people how to think, especially if they're over the age of majority.

2. Commentary like the above is far from enlightened discussion about points. Thats just bitching, sqawking, and being a drama-queen post-whore.

3. Asking people aged 19-29 about potential alchohol and cigarette products is a way for companies to save money by not releasing a bomb product. How does a 19-29 year old know what it feels like to be a 16 year old, the age when most people start smoking? How did this turn into "marketing alchohol and cigarettes to minors"? Way to polarize the issue, bonehead. Except that they dont want to market to minors, thats why people in their surveys are ALL OVER 19. Consenting, thinking adults. Most of the people they're looking for are 23-30, people who have enough money to buy high-margin products. Maybe theres spill over, but ... come on.

4. Me posting something up that people on the board may find of interest, like a way to make a quick, easy and basically free $40 or $50, how does this turn into a "anti-WHP" "anti-Kris" agenda? Way to derail the topic. I didnt post anything about Wickedhouseparty or WHP events, how does WHP come into this issue at all?

Sounds to me like someone's running on sleepdep and is bored out of their goddamn mind.

[rawb]

People 19 and over can think for themselves. Go ahead and point out specific points in your alternate point of view, its welcome go ahead. Dont try to tell people how to think, especially if they're over the age of majority.

i had to read this three or four times to find out if it was a joke or not.

Asking people aged 19-29 about potential alchohol and cigarette products is a way for companies to save money by not releasing a bomb product. How does a 19-29 year old know what it feels like to be a 16 year old, the age when most people start smoking? How did this turn into "marketing alchohol and cigarettes to minors"?

i don't know kris, how about you ask the under 19 group they bring in for smoking and drinking marketing studies.

let that hamster turn in it's wheel. you'll get it eventually.

Except that they dont want to market to minors, thats why people in their surveys are ALL OVER 19.

again, i had to read this 3 or 4 times to realize you aren't joking and are actually that dumb.

poor guy.

[d.b.o.]

Originally posted by bob:
rawb... greenpeace has nothing to do with this
you're just acting like a knowitall activist

When it comes to market research I don't know it all.... but I know a lot. I'd be shocked if there was someone on this board who knows more about it than me. I don't really understand what your argument is. I'm not forcing my beliefs/values/ethics on anyone. I'm giving you an alternative view point that you never really here about. If you can't handle serious debate... go reply to snyx's "I cut my hair" post

if they asked me questions or whatever, i'd give them a half-assed answer. and they give me $50...if they "learn" anything from me, HAHA that's their problem... if i boycott their marketing promo, then someone else takes the cheese... fuck... $50 for me is better than $50 for someone else IMHO... not everyone is against this shit like you rawb (i'm not saying i'm for it either), there's always gonna be someone to take the bait in this cookie-cutter nation, ... have your own kids and teach them not to be suckers like the rest of us sheep. don't get snotty with the dirty fucken ravers who just see $50 as $50...

The funny thing is... if you go there and give them half-assed answers they'll learn a lot more about you then if you give honest ones. If you don't understand what I'm talking about... just ask and I'll be happy to paint a picture for you.

[rawb]

back off! bob's our friend now!