Conspiracy of Science - Earth is in fact growing

[Gunter S]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

when putting forth scientific theories that he says "discredits hundreds of years of scientific theory."

Then yes, a degree is needed.

when molesting hundreds of little boys while proclaiming to be a messenger of God and having the masses believe you, then yes, a robe is needed.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Gunter S

when molesting hundreds of little boys while proclaiming to be a messenger of God and having the masses believe you, then yes, a robe is needed.

Wow, brining up a religion to prove a scientific point.

I think it's pretty safe to say that I've won this arguement. You might have had a point if I was a member of the church, believed in religion, or even brought up any religious point.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Gunter S

maybe you could flesh that out a bit

I can't believe I have to do this, it's like trying to disprove that tree nymphs exist. It should be obvious to everyone, but...

Hollow Earth is the theory that the Earth is hollow, with, ugh, a smaller version of the sun in the center. And as many hollow theory people believe, an advanced civilization living in the center.

There are plausable theories from the scientifc community (sad thing is when you work on something like planetry formation it is almost always a theory) regarding planetery formation.

These theories, from people with a scientifc background, show how gravity of a star forms these planets.

This is a well researched field, studied by hundreds of scientists. Hollow earth has been researched by...

hmm...

In 1869, Cyrus Reed Teed, an herbalist and self-proclaimed alchemist, had a vision of a woman who told him that we are living on the inside of the hollow Earth. For nearly forty years, Teed promoted his idea in pamphlets and speeches. He even founded a cult called the Koreshans (Koresh is the Hebrew equivalent of Cyrus).

hollow earth

[Haze]

Gunter, with this theory; what is the explination of volcanos?

- ë

[Guineveire]

Originally Posted by M.C. BEAR

ever fuck a bear?

sorry, no.

[laska]

Originally Posted by Gunter S

how is hollow earth discredited again?

because certain waves don't penetrate the centre, they rebound off, meaning the middle layer is solid.

[laska]

Originally Posted by Haze

Gunter, with this theory; what is the explination of volcanos?

- ë

With this hollow earth theory, volcanos could still be explained by subsiding crust.
PLATE TECTONICS in general, however, would require an explanation.

[Gunter S]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

Wow, brining up a religion to prove a scientific point.

I think it's pretty safe to say that I've won this arguement. You might have had a point if I was a member of the church, believed in religion, or even brought up any religious point.

the point is that you need only trust a member of the priest-class or others specially appointed to disseminate 'knowledge' to the masses

[Gunter S]

Originally Posted by Haze

Gunter, with this theory; what is the explination of volcanos?

- ë

there's magma, but it's only a layer not the whole thing

[Gunter S]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

I can't believe I have to do this, it's like trying to disprove that tree nymphs exist. It should be obvious to everyone, but...

Hollow Earth is the theory that the Earth is hollow, with, ugh, a smaller version of the sun in the center. And as many hollow theory people believe, an advanced civilization living in the center.

There are plausable theories from the scientifc community (sad thing is when you work on something like planetry formation it is almost always a theory) regarding planetery formation.

These theories, from people with a scientifc background, show how gravity of a star forms these planets.

This is a well researched field, studied by hundreds of scientists. Hollow earth has been researched by...

hmm...



hollow earth

i already know what hollow earth is. when i asked you why it was 'discredited' across the board, your answer was 'gravity'. flesh out what you mean by just 'gravity'

[Haze]

^^ Might be in reference to a mass, which would create a gravitational force. (but I am not sure cuz I am obviously speaking on someone elses point)

- ë

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by Gunter S

i already know what hollow earth is. when i asked you why it was 'discredited' across the board, your answer was 'gravity'. flesh out what you mean by just 'gravity'

Shouldn't the burden of proof be on the person making the outlandish claim?

Why don't YOU flesh your shit out. Fleshy.

[Gunter S]

Originally Posted by Grapes

Shouldn't the burden of proof be on the person making the outlandish claim?

Why don't YOU flesh your shit out. Fleshy.

until someone has been to the center of the earth, all things are speculation

but if we compile the wisdom of the ancient and not so ancient cultures, most of them conclude the existence of an underworld, like Tartarus.

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Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Philippians 2:9-10

[Grapes]

Might have been talking about worms.

Just sayin'

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

when putting forth scientific theories that he says "discredits hundreds of years of scientific theory."

Then yes, a degree is needed.

this is a logical fallacy. no degree is needed. proof or peer reviewed theories are needed.

[Gunter S]

Originally Posted by Grapes

Might have been talking about worms.

Just sayin'

a worm is not a sentient being capable of bending at the knee

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by Gunter S

until someone has been to the center of the earth, all things are speculation

but if we compile the wisdom of the ancient and not so ancient cultures, most of them conclude the existence of an underworld, like Tartarus.

they were also under the impression that the earth was flat. the "wisdom from the ancients" on issues like this was pure speculation based on nothing but anthropomorphizing the world around them and attempts to make the world around them make sense in terms and concepts they could readily understand.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Grapes

Shouldn't the burden of proof be on the person making the outlandish claim?

Why don't YOU flesh your shit out. Fleshy.

I have to agree with Dave on this.

There are plenty of well researched theories to back up me.

However, if you make the claim that there is an ancient civilization living under the Earth, which has a small sun in the center, you have to give some proof.

I mean honestly, you've put nothing forward, but keep asking me to.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Gunter S

the point is that you need only trust a member of the priest-class or others specially appointed to disseminate 'knowledge' to the masses

When did I do that? And doesn't the theory of planetary formation go against Christian ideas of how the universe was made?

[decypher]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

they were also under the impression that the earth was flat. the "wisdom from the ancients" on issues like this was pure speculation based on nothing but anthropomorphizing the world around them and attempts to make the world around them make sense in terms and concepts they could readily understand.

I really do not believe this hollow earth theory so i am not supporting Gunther or whoever, but i must mention that Eastern traditions knew of the orbits and the shape of earth long before the west.

Most of the west approaching the fall of Constantinople in 1453 had lost touch with ancient knowledge and science. Alexander the Great although brutal was good at spreading that seed of empire which spread knowledge all over. After Europe was pillaged by the Christians a lot of knowledge was lost in the first millennium common era.
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Increased contact with the East led to translations of old hellenic texts.
This became a catalyst for the renaissance revival of knowledge and the re-understanding of universe and planet earth in a more humanistic tradition.

There is a supported argument that the Rig Veda devolves theses revelations about the orbits and shape of earth over 6000 years ago and was preserved by eastern writings in the beginning of the common era and then translated to the West later on.

[kir mokum]

although i did not know that, you may notice that no reference to specific "ancient knowledge" was mentioned other than an extremely vague reference to a "hollow earth" story from the past, a story i would equate with a similar mindset as the flat earth story.

[decypher]

Yeh it was more an offshoot i guess but is very interesting nonetheless. BTW hollow earth is pretty loony and i dont think Gunter can take the conclusion of underworlds in ancient philosophy as proof that the earth is hollow and full of little demons lol. I remember seeing a documentary on it somewhere.

[Gunter S]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

they were also under the impression that the earth was flat. the "wisdom from the ancients" on issues like this was pure speculation based on nothing but anthropomorphizing the world around them and attempts to make the world around them make sense in terms and concepts they could readily understand.

way to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

they were also capable of creating wonders like the Temple of Jupiter and the Pyramids, something that we can't reproduce, even today.

[Gunter S]

Originally Posted by decypher

Yeh it was more an offshoot i guess but is very interesting nonetheless. BTW hollow earth is pretty loony and i dont think Gunter can take the conclusion of underworlds in ancient philosophy as proof that the earth is hollow and full of little demons lol. I remember seeing a documentary on it somewhere.

i'm just going in that particular direction as of now

[decypher]

Well when you find the gateway to the underworld send me a PM.