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Having to give up something you love, because of other people..

I am really considering selling my bike, because of all the fucking morons in Vancouver who are apparently blind..

Every time i ride, i almost get hit... I'm not weaving in and out of traffic and riding down the shoulder... i'm riding normally. It pisses me off how Vancouver has so many horrible drivers. If you drive 4 hours away from Vancouver in ANY direction, you will really get a feel for how horrible our drivers are... Not only do people here have a hard time staying in their own lane, but it seems like as if the "slower traffic keep right" is a myth over here...

As much as i love riding, i am really considering selling my bike because even though it's fun as fuck.. it's not really a Vancouver thing... on bcsportbikes.com seems like every week a member is dying... not even including the unknown rider down threads... and RIP so and so..


P.S. How many of you thought because of the title, that this was going to be a thread about having to dump a girlfriend because your friends don't approve?
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You know that feeling when someone doesn't see you in your car, and they swing out infront of you and you slam your brakes and screech towards them and stop just in time... and then your heart feels like it drops into your stomach and your legs become all weak etc..

how is that a fun feeling?
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For every biker that bitches about how Vancouverites don't know how to drive there's a driver that bitches about how Vancouverites don't know how to bike.

And everybody just hates pedestrians.

I found it amusing that some guy was saying in 24 hour that people in Vancouver need to start walking on the right side of the sidewalk. Jesus, we have enough problems getting the drivers and bikers to follow the rules that are already in place. The last thing we need is rules for the pedestrians to fuck up.
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PS: Harden the fuck up. Would you rather be going down 6th Ave in NYC?

Transportation Alternatives: 6th Avenue Bike Lane
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Are we talking about a bicycle or a motorcycle here?
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I agree, Vancouver drivers have major driving issues. You have to be 100% alert when riding a bike in this city. Nothing you can really do other than decide whether you want to risk getting run into by 2 tons of plastic and steel.

You could carry an airhorn, and airhorn every bad driver you see. Not that it will fix anything, but it might wake them up.
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Someone with a tattoo of a Mario item is telling me to harden the fuck up?

hahaha... alright there

btw... good arguement... because it's fucked up in New York i have to be happy with the driving conditions in Vancouver?

You're right... who cares if i almost get killed because of the horrible drivers... it could be worse... People in South America have to equip their cars with flame throwers to combat the car jackings... so... compared to them... i have it great!

thanks for showing me the light, ebbomega!
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sell it and buy a a racing quad.

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sell it and buy a drift car. fun x 1 billion


but yea i hear ya man. even in abbotsford we have fucking TERRIBLE drivers. i hear the whole slow traffic tot he right thing...
but right now we have a huge thing with people not realizing that vehicles have the ability to use turn signals. like holy fuck, theres a LIGHT that tells other drivers which lane i am switching to. holy jesus i never would have guessed!!

i almost got in accidents x 3 today alone because of it.
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For every biker that bitches about how Vancouverites don't know how to drive there's a driver that bitches about how Vancouverites don't know how to bike.

And everybody just hates pedestrians.

I found it amusing that some guy was saying in 24 hour that people in Vancouver need to start walking on the right side of the sidewalk. Jesus, we have enough problems getting the drivers and bikers to follow the rules that are already in place. The last thing we need is rules for the pedestrians to fuck up.
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I hate most bikers. So many times it would be so easy for them to ride just a little closer to the curb or parked cars, BUT NO they peddle just enough into the lane to slow down the cars behind them and make them make sudden moves into the the left lane. I swear they do this on purpose just to piss us off. And then there are the real evil ones who ride SIDE BY SIDE. Not to mention a lot of them dont follow the road rules such as stop signs or signal when turning. It freaks the crap out of me and I dont know what to do. I also dont know why I like never see bikers in the bike lanes, but I always make sure to not to drive in them and always shoulder check.

Most pedestrians are great... EXCEPT down town. I swear they seem to think cars dont exist. They cross streets, allys, with out looking and even after the red hand stops flashing. I once had some dude walk into the back of my car and bang his bag against my trunk. His excuse was that he had the right away. Even though I already pulled out of the ally while he was still a good 3 meters down the side walk.

I take it there either made at me because im not as environmentally friendly, or they'er jelous of my nice ride.

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You're right... who cares if i almost get killed because of the horrible drivers... it could be worse... People in South America have to equip their cars with flame throwers to combat the car jackings... so... compared to them... i have it great!

thanks for showing me the light, ebbomega!
People almost gets killed by horrible drivers every freaking day in Vancouver is my point, and we're way better off than most major cities. Drive more defensively. Assume the driver in front of you / behind you is going to be an idiot and do something stupid. Then at worst you're prepared when they do and at best they actually impress you. It's the only way to survive city driving. If we're gonna go around toting ourselves as a "world class city" we have to be prepared for world class idiots. And yes, they all have drivers licenses.
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ebbo, i know this is going to shock you, but i am with donkey on this one.

i think that if vancouver wants to continue to be a world class city, we need to start acting more like it. that includes making drivers more accountable for their actions. i am truly of the belief that when we renew our licenses in this city, we should go through testing each time to ensure we do drive with do care and attention.

as well, i think they should throw out air care, and cars should go through an actual inspection every year like they do with large vehicles.
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If i had a motorbike i would die for sure.

Just another statistic.


I have troubles riding my skateboard down the street without running into something.
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a bunch of my friends are in a similar position because a friend of ours was killed by some dumbass a few weeks ago.

They are all very careful wear full leathers and helmets but that dosnt mean anyhitng when you get hit by some unattentive idiot.
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People almost gets killed by horrible drivers every freaking day in Vancouver is my point, and we're way better off than most major cities. Drive more defensively. Assume the driver in front of you / behind you is going to be an idiot and do something stupid. Then at worst you're prepared when they do and at best they actually impress you. It's the only way to survive city driving. If we're gonna go around toting ourselves as a "world class city" we have to be prepared for world class idiots. And yes, they all have drivers licenses.
Good solid advice. I already ride like that though... i assume that cars don't see me... but there isn't really anything i can do about the cars on my left or right... because when there is traffic, it's not like i can ride back far enough from the car beside me that if he were to swerve in my lane i would have time to react... there will always be cars beside me no matter during traffic..

I have been told by a few fellow motorcyclists to buy a louder exhaust for my bike, to make myself stand out more... but i'm not sure if it would work... I am not really into loud exhausts... even when it comes to cars, i just like them lowered with rims and keeping it clean... loud exhausts seem like a 16 year old need for speed thing...


R Wellbelove: talking about a motorcycle.. not a bicycle


and about the comments about buying a quad or drift car... That is actually a really cool idea... maybe i'll sell it and buy a 240sx and make it a track drift car only... would be a fun hobby, and also wouldn't depend on the weather as much also..


sucks though, because if i sell i will take a loss since i bought the bike new in 06 :(

shoulda bought a used bike... but i loved riding, and would/will never get bored of it, so i figured if i was going to keep riding forever that buying new would be the best choice... i didn't even factor in the fact that i might not want to ride based solely on the fact that other drivers are horrible drivers
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oh fuck off...

you think vancouver drivers are bad?

have you ridden anywhere else in the world?....

vancouver drivers are so predictable and institutionalized its only when someone deviates from the rules that shit gose ary. my blessings to all those who have perrised.

but try riding a bike in bangkok,hanoi, or guatemala city and then start complaining about vancouver drivers..

you have it lucky here son....
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oh fuck off...

you think vancouver drivers are bad?

have you ridden anywhere else in the world?....

vancouver drivers are so predictable and institutionalized its only when someone deviates from the rules that shit gose ary. my blessings to all those who have perrised.

but try riding a bike in bangkok,hanoi, or guatemala city and then start complaining about vancouver drivers..

you have it lucky here son....
That is your arguement? Since it is WORSE in other countries, I should be content with the fact that there is a big risk I might get smoked whenever I decide to do something I love to do?

Come back with something better, son.
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That is your arguement? Since it is WORSE in other countries, I should be content with the fact that there is a big risk I might get smoked whenever I decide to do something I love to do?
see....i knew you would understand.

now sattle up and go for a long bikeride tomorow and enjoy yourself.
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see....i knew you would understand.

now sattle up and go for a long bikeride tomorow and enjoy yourself.
Any day the sun is out, my bike is out... Just sucks that i have to be so uneasy while riding because of other people...

anyways... gnight.
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Any day the sun is out, my bike is out... Just sucks that i have to be so uneasy while riding because of other people...
word...but trust, it could be alot worse.
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