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Old Dec 27, 07
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The record industry is lucky to be alive- long read if interested in copyright laws

Truth be told, the record business is lucky to be alive....

really good article with links to other articles about performance rights, the death of oink and the future of the music industry...



demonbaby: When Pigs Fly: The Death of Oink, the Birth of Dissent, and a Brief History of Record Industry Suicide.
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Yeah, I remember seeing that when it was first posted on the oink front page. Very cool article, gives you an inside look at the establishment and how blatantly corrupt it is. Shit like that makes me pissed that governments are bending over backwards for a monopoly that has no clue how to deal with technology.

You'd think that now, 8 years after napster, they would have figured it out to hire a technical advisor, no?
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Yeh i gave this a read when i was doing research last semester. I'm not sure if this is in the article but the recording industry is actually losing money from all this litigation and it's doing nothing. The "hydra" analogy speaks volumes.
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What's there to say, the music industry has been cheapened by piracy. The music still sounds good, but it's cheaper.
Maybe the computer companies should support artists since it's computer technology which enabled MP3's to exist in the first place.
How many CD's did you buy this year? I bought 1 CD for my sister for Xmas. I have the same CD on download, plus tons of remixes that weren't on the CD in the first place. CD get old fast, but the internet is a constant flow of free new music. My only hate on MP3's is the 128-220kbs MP3 songs that sound like shit. Why would anyone record under 320Kbs?
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a lot of what you just said doesn't make sense btw^
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What's there to say, the music industry has been cheapened by piracy. The music still sounds good, but it's cheaper.
It's not that the music is cheaper, it's that the distribution method is. As a result the music industry tried to clamp down on all digital rights of music. So if you buy off iTunes or Rhapsody, the artist doesn't see a dime.

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Hi, bullshit? Who the hell is going to foot that bill? "the computer companies"? So you're saying that every IT firm should contribute money to a completely unrelated industry because of technologies that they aren't responsible for? How does that seem fair?

Why should we subsidize anything? Lawsuits, blank media taxes, this is all crap when you consider the fact that the only reason recording companies are failing is because they have a failing business model. Yes, the model worked 10 years ago, but it doesn't now. Adapt or die. Welcome to capitalism.
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adapt or die


this needs to be our slogan when dealing with RIAA and such
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Superstar performer Madonna is charting a new course in career management with a deal with concert promoter Live Nation.Once she delivers her last disc to Warner Music in April 2008, Madonna will embark on an all-encompassing Live Nation contract that will see the concert promoter's Artist Nation division handle everything related to the Madonna brand - albums, tours, merchandise, film projects and DVDs.

It's a move that even Warner honcho Edgar Bronfman acknowledged was the way of the future, noting recently in a conference call with analysts that the label will no longer sign artists for recorded music revenue only.


Canadian artists can expect similar broad-reaching deals to become more common in this country, says LeBlanc.
"Whether we like it or not, that 360-thinking is coming, and it is in Canada right now," says LeBlanc.


"As much as the majors are talking about 360 deals, the independents in Canada are moving that way, too. And to be really truthful, they have no choice, given the market."
For Ramone, the crux of the matter comes down to providing fans with good music, and he says not enough of that was on offer in 2007.


"You want to have choices and you shouldn't spend your whole savings ... on one record," he says.
"A lot of it is to filter out the songs that are not ready for prime time, in my book."



The Canadian Press: The year in music: industry in chaos, but fans take charge
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It's not that the music is cheaper, it's that the distribution method is. As a result the music industry tried to clamp down on all digital rights of music. So if you buy off iTunes or Rhapsody, the artist doesn't see a dime.



Hi, bullshit? Who the hell is going to foot that bill? "the computer companies"? So you're saying that every IT firm should contribute money to a completely unrelated industry because of technologies that they aren't responsible for? How does that seem fair?

Why should we subsidize anything? Lawsuits, blank media taxes, this is all crap when you consider the fact that the only reason recording companies are failing is because they have a failing business model. Yes, the model worked 10 years ago, but it doesn't now. Adapt or die. Welcome to capitalism.
That was my feeble attempt at poetic justice. Adapt or die is right.
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Superstar performer Madonna is charting a new course in career management with a deal with concert promoter Live Nation.Once she delivers her last disc to Warner Music in April 2008, Madonna will embark on an all-encompassing Live Nation contract that will see the concert promoter's Artist Nation division handle everything related to the Madonna brand - albums, tours, merchandise, film projects and DVDs.

It's a move that even Warner honcho Edgar Bronfman acknowledged was the way of the future, noting recently in a conference call with analysts that the label will no longer sign artists for recorded music revenue only.


Canadian artists can expect similar broad-reaching deals to become more common in this country, says LeBlanc.
"Whether we like it or not, that 360-thinking is coming, and it is in Canada right now," says LeBlanc.


"As much as the majors are talking about 360 deals, the independents in Canada are moving that way, too. And to be really truthful, they have no choice, given the market."
For Ramone, the crux of the matter comes down to providing fans with good music, and he says not enough of that was on offer in 2007.


"You want to have choices and you shouldn't spend your whole savings ... on one record," he says.
"A lot of it is to filter out the songs that are not ready for prime time, in my book."



The Canadian Press: The year in music: industry in chaos, but fans take charge




yikes, so the response from the majors is "wait, since we are losing money on the music distribution and thats all we control...we need to get a piece of everything else:merch etc"
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yikes, so the response from the majors is "wait, since we are losing money on the music distribution and thats all we control...we need to get a piece of everything else:merch etc"
Greed feeds greed.
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The reason you're seeing Live Nation make bold moves like this is because they're Clear Channel's new little voodoo child. With Clear Channel's recent acquisition of House of Blues they've become the world's largest concert promoters. And seeing how Clear Channel is one of the world's largest media conglomerates why wouldn't they look for another piece of the pie. Live Nation has also made moves into ticketing revenue to pull some money out of Ticketmasters pocket. There is definitely a lot of moving and shaking going on in all aspects of the music industry right now.
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it's amazing what a huge role the personal computer is playing in the evolution of society. The world probably hasn't seen anything like this since the dawn of the automobile, very interesting times!

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Another problem with this battle against piracy is when does it infringe on the lives and culture of Canada. A great example was when the group "Fair Copyright for Canada" organized online and offline protest which made the Industry Minister put aside legislation for review. At least there's some use for Facebook besides being the new marketers wetdream.

If you're interested in this stuff check out Michael Geist. He wrote about the above instance on the tyee.ca. They wanted to pass a bill that would make it illegal to make copies of things that you own and other retarded restrictions. There's a big movement pushing for reform in Canada, not only with copyrights and tech law but with media conglomeration as well.
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I'm a little suprised that no one has ever mentioned about the electronica labels out there... and how they are being impacted by filesharing and what not...
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^ I assumed that they fell under the category of 'indie label', no?
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^ I assumed that they fell under the category of 'indie label', no?
Except a lot of the Digital Rights for particularly popular EDM falls under the big labels, simply because they're the ones licensed for CDs.
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