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Hoax of lost Amazon tribe

Even in an age when cynical sleuths can hyper-analyze stories for truth and accuracy, the occasional hoax still slips through the cracks. Such was the case with a so-called "lost Amazon tribe."

A few months ago, mainstream news outlets (including, ahem, Yahoo!) reported that a photographer had found a lost tribe of warriors near the Brazilian-Peruvian border. Photos of the tribe backed up his claim.

As it turns out, the story is only half true. The men in the photo are members of a tribe, but it certainly ain't "lost." In fact, as the photographer, José Carlos Meirelles, recently explained, authorities have known about this particular tribe since 1910. The photographer and the agency that released the pictures wanted to make it seem like they were members of a lost tribe in order to call attention to the dangers the logging industry may have on the group.

The photographer recently came clean, and news outlets, perhaps embarrassed at having been taken for a ride, have been slow to pick up the story. Now, the word is starting to spread and articles in the Buzz are picking up steam. Expect a lot more brutal truth in the coming days.

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same story as the one i read about here on fnk correct? well fuck i guess so how often does someone think theyve found a lost tribe?
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yeah its the same one posted before with those colored warriors.
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gee, a hoax!

hokay everyone, let's keep cutting down the rainforest. nothing to see here!
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Even in an age when cynical sleuths can hyper-analyze stories for truth and accuracy, the occasional hoax still slips through the cracks. Such was the case with a so-called "lost Amazon tribe."

A few months ago, mainstream news outlets (including, ahem, Yahoo!) reported that a photographer had found a lost tribe of warriors near the Brazilian-Peruvian border. Photos of the tribe backed up his claim.

As it turns out, the story is only half true. The men in the photo are members of a tribe, but it certainly ain't "lost." In fact, as the photographer, José Carlos Meirelles, recently explained, authorities have known about this particular tribe since 1910. The photographer and the agency that released the pictures wanted to make it seem like they were members of a lost tribe in order to call attention to the dangers the logging industry may have on the group.

The photographer recently came clean, and news outlets, perhaps embarrassed at having been taken for a ride, have been slow to pick up the story. Now, the word is starting to spread and articles in the Buzz are picking up steam. Expect a lot more brutal truth in the coming days.

Yahoo! Buzz
dude, thats not new news, the reason they know that their are around forty 'lost' tribes is because there has been previous records of their existence. the lost is to mean that they have very minimal contact with the outside world, in fact the brazilian government has rules established so people do not go into areas where they beleive the 'lost' tribes exist. these tribes have been in contact with other tribes in the area for millenia, but they have not had significant western contact.

there is tremendous worry on the part of the brazilian and peruvian governemnt that these tribe's well being could be impacted so they have set up a regional body to ensure people do not exploit that part of the rainforest. just because we know they are there does not mean that they are lost, its the media's fault for the confusion because of the language they used. people have know about these tribes and of those in papua new guienea for decades thats why they make efforts not to to contact them inorder to preserve their existence.

its not like some tribe just walked into the woods and disappeared they simply are not contacted. the economist has done multiple stories on this over the years its not like the mainstream media was unaware.

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this was already talked about at lenght on this forum last month...

including the fact that they were already known, but not seen by the west, and the connections to the deforestation problems in brazil.

this is such a dead story. seriously se7en, if your just going to simply copypaste a story make sure you know all the angles to avoid looking like....well,....a knob.

they have known about the existence the the tribe for a while..

but the pictures are the first EVER to be released. the first time the WEST have ever seen this tribe....that is what is amazing.

the photog didnt come clean about anything. dunno why that was printed. everyone knew right from the start that the tribe was 'known' by the brazilian liaison to indigenous people and used to protest the crippinling effects of brazil's lumber industry.
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*oh, and just to add, ive spent ALOT of time traveling around the amazon and ive gotten pretty deep into the back country of the jungle...looking back, abit deeper then i should of. there are TONES of reports of isolated and uncontacted tribes in the amazon. they remain known only through word of mouth but still have yet to be contacted or photographed/documented by western media.

fact remains the same. the images captured are startling and amazing.

even in our own remote forrests of canada it is said there exists human 'tribes' that remain completely isolated and undiscoverd self suffiecient and completely 'off the grid of society'.

there is ALOT more to this world then what people preceive as reality. alot of times people loose sight of this and it SHOCKS them that there are 'civilised' people who have never heard of hondas or costco.

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this was already talked about at lenght on this forum last month...

including the fact that they were already known, but not seen by the west, and the connections to the deforestation problems in brazil.

this is such a dead story. seriously se7en, if your just going to simply copypaste a story make sure you know all the angles to avoid looking like....well,....a knob.

they have known about the existence the the tribe for a while..

but the pictures are the first EVER to be released. the first time the WEST have ever seen this tribe....that is what is amazing.

the photog didnt come clean about anything. dunno why that was printed. everyone knew right from the start that the tribe was 'known' by the brazilian liaison to indigenous people and used to protest the crippinling effects of brazil's lumber industry.


my bad. i just found it posted on the net today and thought of posting it. also i didnt read all the posts about it in the previous article u submitted. didnt know that it was already talked about. now ur calling me a knob, u tool. y dont u just chill out
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my bad. i just found it posted on the net today and thought of posting it. also i didnt read all the posts about it in the previous article u submitted. didnt know that it was already talked about. now ur calling me a knob, u tool. y dont u just chill out
lol.., didnt really mean to call YOU a knob, just that you were looking like one being all 'copy and paste' and such.

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So, the fact that it's a hoax is actually a hoax.

I'm fucking confused.
Photo of Amazon Tribe Not a Hoax | LiveScience


This week, suspicions about the organization's motivations and the authenticity of the scene were raised. On June 22, The Observer, a London-based newspaper, ran a story, "Secret of the 'lost' tribe that wasn't," saying that the tribe's existence "has been noted since 1910." A succession of other stories followed on the Web, claiming that reports of the tribe's discovery were a hoax.

No hoax

Today, Survival International released a statement to try to clarify things, including: "The story is not a hoax, and none of those involved in working to protect these Indians' rights have ever claimed they were 'undiscovered.'"

Survival never claimed that the tribe was lost. The story got out of control, says Fiona Watson, Survival's Brazil expert, as a result of irresponsible reporting.

"Some of the media got very carried away and started talking about undiscovered tribes," Watson told LiveScience. "There was this interpretation that this was a completely new tribe, completely undiscovered, without bothering to check with sources. Neither the Brazilian government nor Survival has ever used that word, and 'uncontacted' means they don't have any contact with outsiders."

Survival International's Web site includes a page about "uncontacted tribes," here, which states that more than 100 uncontacted tribes are known worldwide, with more than half living in either Brazil or Peru. These tribes, "whilst not 'lost,' simply reject contact with the outside world," according to Survival's statement today.

Survival campaigns to protect the tribes' land.

The recently photographed tribe might have had contact with neighboring tribal groups, Watson said, adding, "We don't know. They almost certainly know about the outside world. We mean 'having no physical contact,' living in a very isolated way in the Amazon."

"Flying over in an airplane doesn't constitute contact," she said.

The Observer journalist failed to do his homework, Watson said. If he had, "he would have seen that we've been talking about the existence of the tribe for some time now. Of course we know they are there, but there has been no contact," Watson said.
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a hoax of a hoax?

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Regardless of how the situation was reported, and what people think it helped.

It drew international attention to an important issue, that looks like it could bring out some change.
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Regardless of how the situation was reported, and what people think it helped.

It drew international attention to an important issue, that looks like it could bring out some change.
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