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Originally Posted by GSG9
yea its better put together but you cant tell me youd take a camry over a CTS with a fucking LS engine in it.
honda fits and toyota echos are better put together too, but its still inane to the subject matter.
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whats retail on a cts-v?
im sure i could name a few cars id rather have at that price, without knocking on the CTS. I think its a good looking car with great performance and a nice engine but if im dropping money on something as frivolous as a car I don't want to drive in one that has worse build quality, resale value and image then a worn out fisherprice toy.
Also think your VAG example is a little off base, only some of the audi's share the same underpinnings as the volk brand. You could critisize porsche and lamborgini for the same thing yet they are well put together and despite the years on its design the 911 is still a very competent performer in its class. In light of that, there is no question that both brands provide you a better product with the rather large incremental outlays you make over say a passat. there is no GM car in the same price range that can even compete with the off brand volkswagens given the same outlay. what are you going to do add a extra wing to the piece of shit that replaced the piece of shit the grand prix was for the last 15 years?
the big three are basically the worst run company's on the fucking planet and its reflected in their products. right now their all hoping that john mccain gets elected so when they finally do fail they'll get another bailout from the government.
GM is a dead company walking.
p.s. the basic moral of this story is, if you have money why would you even bother with a domestic which makes the comparisons relevant because the only people not buying fits are the ones buying cobalts because they cant afford the fits/versas. as for people with money, its not even a consideration.
if you had 60-70k to drop on a ride that wasnt a work truck why even bother with the domestics? aside from the Z06. there's nothing really there.
mike, fuck an suv, get a slightly used M3(later then 2003, some of those engines had problems) or if a SUV a land rover sport.