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Old Nov 06, 08
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Obama All Day, Every Day. w00t. w00t.

Decided to make a thread where we can keep all our US political discussions, republican bashing, Obama worshiping in one place. I've had two days to digest the amazing events of November 4th...

He's already making good on his transparency promises. Check out his new website. Change.gov

I'm really glad that he's decided to keep using the internet as a way to connect with younger voters and get his message out. He seems to know that he has to embrace technology in order to communicate effectively with the people. I'm loving it.

I'm also loving his chief of staff pick. He's like the enforcer of the democratic party, which will go very well with Obama's "nice guy" demeanor. Good cop, bad cop. Check out his wiki page.

Rahm Emanuel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Love this guy already. And if the republicans are already complaining about this guy, you know he's made a good choice.

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Rahm Emanuel: Obama's Chief Of Staff
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Old Nov 06, 08
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Love this guy already. And if the republicans are already complaining about this guy, you know he's made a good choice.
wasn't one of the major points of the Obama campaign to work with the republicans to put through his ideas? why would having a chief of staff who pisses them off be a good thing?

gloating and an US vs THEM mentality are things that democrats hate about republicans, why do you want to perpetuate something that obv splits people apart?

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while fun to read, huffington is just the mirror image of drudge report. it is often sensational with its commentary and its "stories" are just that, editorials. quoting huffington makes you just as bad as Alex and Vitamin-X and other hardcore right-wingers.
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wasn't one of the major points of the Obama campaign to work with the republicans to put through his ideas? why would having a chief of staff who pisses them off be a good thing?

gloating and an US vs THEM mentality are things that democrats hate about republicans, why do you want to perpetuate something that obv splits people apart?

while fun to read, huffington is just the mirror image of drudge report. it is often sensational with its commentary and its "stories" are just that, editorials. quoting huffington makes you just as bad as Alex and Vitamin-X and other hardcore right-wingers.
Um...it's not just Republicans who are upset about this pick, a lot of Democrats are as well. Did you want me to spoon feed you all the pros and cons of this choice? People think he'll be excellent when it comes to keeping the Democrats in line. Enforcer in those terms.

I'm well aware of the slant. I didn't quote it. I gave a link. If people want more links, they can follow the wiki page I linked them to. I read a lot of websites. I posted the huffinton post link to this story because it actually presented both sides of the argument for this chief of staff pick. And if you read the reader comments, a lot of other links are provided, both in favour and against, to support arguments.

What issue did you have with my post? The fact that I offered my opinion about Obama's pick? I though I made it clear that this thread was about discussion...I don't have anyone else's opinion to offer but my own.
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if the republicans are already complaining about this guy, you know he's made a good choice.
why would you say that a chief of staff that pisses republicans off be a good choice if the act of spiting republicans goes against one of the major pillars of the democratic campaign?
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why would you say that a chief of staff that pisses republicans off be a good choice if the act of spiting republicans goes against one of the major pillars of the democratic campaign?
1. i don't think it's obama's job to try and make the republicans happy. it's his job to choose the best guy for the job. one who's able to help him lead and keep members of his party in line. RE is a centrist, which is needed to keep the crazy leftists in line. my opinion is that when it comes to decisions, obama probably needs to put the country first, his party second, and the republicans last. but that's just my opinion.

2. do you have an opinion? or are you just mad that i didn't post enough links for you? i'll try to do that from now on.
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Old Nov 06, 08
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I hope this post is unbiased enough for rawb.

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neither 1 nor 2 answers my question.

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if the republicans are already complaining about this guy, you know he's made a good choice.
why would the specific outcome of complaining republicans be evidence that an appointment is a good choice? i am not taking an objection to the choice of the person, i am taking objection to the idea that making people you have pledged to work with mad is a positive thing.

my opinion, which i have stated, is that that validating an action because it pisses off someone who is in another political party is not proactive and is ultimately divisive. it works against what is trying to be achieved by the obama government.
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my eye twitched when i read that too rawb. its called being a democrat for the drama aspect of it.
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neither 1 nor 2 answers my question.

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why would the specific outcome of complaining republicans be evidence that an appointment is a good choice? i am not taking an objection to the choice of the person, i am taking objection to the idea that making people you have pledged to work with mad is a positive thing.

my opinion, which i have stated, is that that validating an action because it pisses off someone who is in another political party is not proactive and is ultimately divisive. it works against what is trying to be achieved by the obama government.
you're right, i'm wrong.
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my eye twitched when i read that too rawb. its called being a democrat for the drama aspect of it.

oddly enough, in the purest sense of their definitions, i'd identify with republicans way before identifying with democrats.
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Old Nov 07, 08
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Did any west wing or entourage fans read his wiki?

"and his brother Ari is a talent agent in Los Angeles who inspired Jeremy Piven's character Ari Gold on the HBO series Entourage.[6] Emanuel himself is the inspiration for the character Josh Lyman on The West Wing."
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DIVA....drunk as fuck on a good ole cup of Obama cult of personality?
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Old Nov 07, 08
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yo son im baracked out, lets keep things on ice until hes actually president
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DIVA....drunk as fuck on a good ole cup of Obama cult of personality?
Heck yeah! I haven't slept in three days! I'm even considering booking a flight to visit my sister in DC during inauguration weekend. I'm black. Not African-American, but part African, like the president elect. November 4th, 2008 will go down in history as the day the world changed in my eyes. <3 <3

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I might even consider marrying a black guy!
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Old Nov 07, 08
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Heck yeah! I haven't slept in three days! I'm even considering booking a flight to visit my sister in DC during inauguration weekend. I'm black. Not African-American, but part African, like the president elect. November 4th, 2008 will go down in history as the day the world changed in my eyes. <3 <3

Weeeeeeeeeeeeee!
black, african-american, african, etc...
no, no, no.
it's "chocolate noir".
who's that chick on deal or no deal? forgot her name...
now that's one FINE piece of chocolate. mmm, mmm tasTy.
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Decided to make a thread where we can keep all our US political discussions, republican bashing, Obama worshiping in one place.
what was wrong with the 20 other threads
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while fun to read, huffington is just the mirror image of drudge report. it is often sensational with its commentary and its "stories" are just that, editorials. quoting huffington makes you just as bad as Alex and Vitamin-X and other hardcore right-wingers.
Not anything against Diva, I just want to second this, sourcing the huffington post is never a good idea.

They take the oddest angles of every story, and try to spin them. People often complain about how bias fox news is, "news" sources like the Huffington post really discredit this...
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yo son im baracked out, lets keep things on ice until hes actually president
no shit me too, talk is cheap, i hope he does awsome but lets keep the nutt huggin down till he's actually done/fixed all the things hes promised too.

as far as im concerd the president elect is bascially just the biggest baddest used car salesman on the planet.

tell and show people ANYTHING they need to hear in order to get that sale.
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Old Nov 07, 08
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Old Nov 07, 08
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Not anything against Diva, I just want to second this, sourcing the huffington post is never a good idea.

They take the oddest angles of every story, and try to spin them. People often complain about how bias fox news is, "news" sources like the Huffington post really discredit this...
Oh Ninjaboy, you're so awsome. Ignoring the first source I gave and humping on the bandwagon to show that I referenced a blog. I actually just posted a link.


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Huffpost is classified as a blog, which are usually based on....you guessed it, OPINIONS.

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Did you read the link I posted? Notice that huff sourced politico.com, which often has a right leaning slant, in that post. Ninjaboy, what crazy spins that article was full of. I mean, basically just summarizing the wiki page I linked to. Holy crap.

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Anyhow, Ninjaboy, get your last subtle jabs in. Wishbone's right. There are plenty of Obama threads on this site already. I'll close this one and ask for it to be deleted to keep the clutter to a minimum.

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Huffpost is classified as a blog, which are usually based on....you guessed it, OPINIONS.
Wow.

First off, I was more commenting on Rawb's post...

Second off, Maybe the huffpost shouldn't use the slogan: "The internet's newspaper" if they want to be considered a blog, and thus not held to the same standards as other news websites...

And third off, I didn't refer to your article at all, just in general. And denying that the huffpost has a huge left wing bias would be a little out there...

Or list on their about us page jobs such as: Editor, Reporters, Associate News Editors, Senior News editor...

Giving the clear indication they consider themselves a news source, not a blog.

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