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Old Jul 18, 01
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*Question of morality and priority*

Here's a hypothetical question i got asked yesterday:

"Would you be willing to murder an innocent person if, by doing so, you could end all hunger and starvation in the world?"

Pretend it could actually happen...would you do it?

just thought it was something to think about

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Old Jul 18, 01
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i'd kill an innocent person anyways...



seriously tho... i suppose i would.
this "person" is probably Phil Knight... CEO of Nike... ahahahaha... i bet if u killed him off, things would change in 3rd world countries... then again, he's not exactly an innocent person...

but this is a hypothetical question... so ...


i don't think i would... it would be a "blood money" issue for me... sure, u saved a bunch of starving ppl, but their food was paid for with blood... personally, i'd rather starve to death rather than know that someone had to die so i could enjoy some corn flakes or whatever...
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Old Jul 19, 01
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Question: How would the person be killed?

A) Would you push a button and some innocent random person is blown up?

B) Would you have a gun and shoot the person from a distance?

C) Would you have to stab the person with a knife (or fork) until they die?

A is MUCH easier to do than B which is easier to do than C.

Why? Killing a person you don't see is easy. Killing a person face to face is much harder task as you are there.
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Old Jul 19, 01
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bob are you implying a death threat by that?


I could probably kill a person with a projectile like a gun but not if it was hand to hand
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Old Jul 19, 01
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Well, does killing myself count as killing an innocent person?
i know if i killed someone (only like face to face kinda thing like stabbing, poison, gun to temple sorta thing) i wouldn't be able to live with myself..
so.. could i just kill myself instead?

or maybe.. if i killed that person it would solve those problems..then if i killed myself would it solve more problems? no wait.. iw ouldn't be innocent then..

i would press a button to randomly blow up some person in mongolia or whereever it chooses.. but only if it would solve those problems...
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Old Jul 19, 01
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Why are you picking on Mongolia?
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Old Jul 19, 01
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cpt. crunch...

yes, Phil Knight is on my "to do" list... but i had to put him aside for the time being, while i focus on the Translink assholes...
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Old Jul 19, 01
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Why? Killing a person you don't see is easy. Killing a person face to face is much harder task as you are there. [/b][/quote]


that's an interesting thing to say. That is why i decided to go vegetarian 7 years ago, because i had reached a point where i couldn't deal with killing animals, even if it wasn't me who *actually* killed them.

i know i am not capable of killing something innocent and alive, even if it means that by Not killing them, other people might inadvertantly suffer.

i don't know, i'm just in one of Those introspective odd moods.

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Old Jul 19, 01
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I would not kill an inncoent person to end world wide hunger.

I would however kill an innocent person if i was able to do it without any repercusions
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Old Jul 19, 01
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Quote:
Originally posted by MC Hammered
Why are you picking on Mongolia?
I'm not picking on Mongolia. It was just the first country that came into my head. I also did say "or whatever country it chooses" so.. meaning any country. Not like killing someone in Mongolia, or any country, is good. It just happened to be the first country that popped into my head that's all. (Maybe it was the whole deal with the armless, legless, goatless, mongolian boy that i jsut read aboot in an email...??)
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Old Jul 19, 01
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hmmm...well..truthfully..i wouldn't wanna kill anyone...as cheryl said...couldn't i kill myself as the innocent?...it'd be much easier..i could never imagine killing anyone...and an innocent for that matter...even if i never had to see the person i killed..like the pressing the button thingy..it'd still be wrong..and just cuz it'd end all hunger and starvation in the world??..thats a good thing but those aren't the only problems with our world..~
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Old Jul 19, 01
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Quote:
Originally posted by bob
this "person" is probably Phil Knight... CEO of Nike... ahahahaha... i bet if u killed him off, things would change in 3rd world countries... then again, he's not exactly an innocent person...
yeah things would probably be changed for the worse. I know child labour is bad, to US! To the kids working and to their parents, they are working to provide themselves with food on the table and stuff. If they were to stop working they'd go hungry so you have to think about the otherside before you say make a decision. :)
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Old Jul 19, 01
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I would...

I think i would. Because, you end one life, but think of how many you are saving, and potenially saving?

It would be alot easier if I could just kill someone I hate... but I don't think I hate anybody that bad anyways...

Then again, I can't picture myself having a gun, and shooting someone in the head, right in front of me you know? Not that heartless.

This is a hard question... realistically I know I wouldn't, but I think killing one person to save millions and millions of others, seems like a pretty good trade off.
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Old Jul 19, 01
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if you wanted to kill an innocent person, but make it not nearly as bad, choose someone who wants to die anywayz.. says omeone in hospital who will die in like a week anwayz, kill them cuz hey..they are gonna die anywayz. and with their death (which was inevitable) they'd be saving millions.. that'd be the best bet..

but not likei t's even possible..
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Old Jul 19, 01
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i have a solution

let's just nuke the USA... how's that sound?

we'll build some sort of radiation shield, so it doesn't spread to canada... and we'll be set...
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Old Jul 19, 01
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Re: i have a solution

Quote:
Originally posted by bob
let's just nuke the USA... how's that sound?

we'll build some sort of radiation shield, so it doesn't spread to canada... and we'll be set...
sounds good to meeh! yes! let's nuke the damned usa!
cum on.. we've already burned their white house before..why not go for the whole country this time?
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Old Jul 19, 01
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I think it's right.
But that doens't mean I CAN do it.
I'd be too scared, chicken shit lol.
I don't know if I could even kill a guilty person!
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Old Jul 19, 01
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human nature is an ugly disgusting thing sometimes. i don't know what i'd do. that's really hard. i agree with winston though...if i was in a room with a red button and there was a sign that said "push this button and 1 person on earth will die but millions will be saved" then i'd consider. i guess it would just make it easier. but i'd still wanna know what kind of life that person lead, liek whether or not they had family and all that.
hey why don't we just put one innocent person and 1000 starving people on an island and let them decide. that my friends is the filthiness of human nature.
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Old Jul 19, 01
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no i wouldn't do it!

it's all individual suffering anyway. it isn't collective. so in my mind causing the suffering and death of one individual is as bad as causing that of thousands. but i don't make sense.

to me you couldn't justify trading someone's life for many other lives. it just doesn't compute to me.

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Old Jul 19, 01
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" The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

yeah so i would kill that one guy/girl!

oh yeah....can someone PLEASE tell me where that quote is from?
it's been really buggin me :)
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Old Jul 19, 01
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Re: Re: i have a solution

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Originally posted by c-TaRd


sounds good to meeh! yes! let's nuke the damned usa!
cum on.. we've already burned their white house before..why not go for the whole country this time?

actually, it wasn't a "white house" until after we burned it down... the americans rebuilt it and painted it with a marvelous white coat...

we still kicked their ass tho...
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Old Jul 19, 01
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'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few'

Spoken by Spock as he was dying in order to save the Enterprise in Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan.
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