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Shutting Up The Right Wing!

Cheap labor is what it comes down it would seem, I particularly liked this bit;

Cheap-labor conservatives don't like social spending or our "safety net." Why. Because when you're unemployed and desperate, corporations can pay you whatever they feel like – which is inevitably next to nothing. You see, they want you "over a barrel" and in a position to "work cheap or starve."


Cheap-labor conservatives don't like the minimum wage, or other improvements in wages and working conditions. Why? These reforms undo all of their efforts to keep you "over a barrel."

Cheap-labor conservatives like "free trade," NAFTA, GATT, etc. Why? Because there is a huge supply of desperately poor people in the third world, who are "over a barrel," and will work cheap.

Cheap-labor conservatives oppose a woman's right to choose. Why? Unwanted children are an economic burden that put poor women "over a barrel," forcing them to work cheap.

Cheap-labor conservatives don't like unions. Why? Because when labor "sticks together," wages go up. That's why workers unionize. Seems workers don't like being "over a barrel."

Cheap-labor conservatives constantly bray about "morality," "virtue," "respect for authority," "hard work" and other "values." Why? So they can blame your being "over a barrel" on your own "immorality," lack of "values" and "poor choices."

Cheap-labor conservatives encourage racism, misogyny, homophobia and other forms of bigotry. Why? Bigotry among wage earners distracts them, and keeps them from recognizing their common interests as wage earners.

The Cheap-Labor Conservatives' "Dirty Secret": They Don't Really Like Prosperity


Full article here, http://www.guerrillanews.com/corpora...e/doc2547.html
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"They want to see absolutely nothing that benefits the guy – or more often the woman – who works for an hourly wage."
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"cheap labor conservatives"
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Cheap-labor conservatives support the “get tough” and “lock ‘em up” approach to virtually every social problem in the spectrum. In fact, it’s the only approach they support. As for the 2,000,000 people we have in jail today – a higher percentage of our population than any other nation on earth -- they say our justice system is “too lenient”.
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Cheap-labor conservatives support our new concentration camp down at Guantanamo Bay. They also support these “secret tribunals” with “secret evidence” and virtually no judicial review of the trials and sentences. Then they say that liberals are “Stalinists”.
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just another group of people who should be ducked taped to chairs and beat to death with baseball bats while their children watch.
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This is just one group of people that go towards the right wing and support a special interest.

I have a hard time trying to put down the right wing, or the left wing as a whole as it seems it doesn't completely exist in Canada. Parties themselves are just more concerned with attaching themselves to one side of popular issues with the public and trying to run with it to get a vote or gain the public's interest. Look at the Campbell Liberals, apparently a 'left wing' party (even their name would indicate such) but most of their legislation is really weighing towards the right side of the spectrum.
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I'm refering as this article was to ideology not political parties.
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However as far as ideology Gordo and his "Liberal" posse are deffinately cheap labor conservatives.
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Yeah, imo I just think it is silly to want to shut up the entire right wing, as per the title of your post.. :P

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Yeah, imo I just think it is silly to want to shut up the entire right wing, as per the title of your post.. :P

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Fair enough but more so than anything the title was just meant to grab someone's attention. But as far as that goes what is it about don't judge a book by its cover?

If you look at what I was posting (other people's ideas that struck a cord with me) it wasn't actually trying to stifle debate but more specifically win debate. This can be very difficult when arguing any of this with your typical cheap labor conservative. Their perspective which I disagree with is the one that is held by the rich and elite of the world who control many aspects of society such as the media. It's beyond argument that the media has an effect on the opinions of people and it has been used to forward their agenda for quite some time. In some instances media even forms people's opinions for them who have no capability or desire to independently research things for themselves and come to their own conclusions.

I believe that debate and conversation are both good things but the cheap labor conservatives definitely do not. You'll see a blatant example of this as more and more media outlets are consolidated, eliminating many voices.

Just out of curiosity did you read the article? If so what do you think? It's interesting when viewed through that filter that things make a lot more sense than they do otherwise in regards to the cheap labor conservative’s agenda (cheap labor conservatives = neo liberals, fascism, right wing, conservatives...).

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it has to be said again....

just another group of people who should be ducked taped to chairs and beat to death with baseball bats while their children are forced to watch.

fuck cheap labour? you know why? cuz i'm cheap labour.
These people are obviously stuck in their sheltered little lives still...

*gotta go to work. will continue later*
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it has to be said again....

just another group of people who should be ducked taped to chairs and beat to death with baseball bats while their children are forced to watch.

fuck cheap labour? you know why? cuz i'm cheap labour.
These people are obviously stuck in their sheltered little lives still...

*gotta go to work. will continue later*
Care to elaborate a little?
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