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Old Nov 06, 03
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Green River Killer

Has anybody else heard about this guy? Gary Ridgeway. In the 80's and through the 90's he killed 48 women in washington. Well, he's charged on 48 counts of murder in the first degree. He has plead guilty to all of these counts in order to receive a plea bargain--to not get the death penalty.

48 counts of murder and he gets to stay alive himself with no parole. This guy is dubbed the worst serial killer ever in North America.

(more info) http://www.msnbc.com/news/989628.asp?0cv=CB10

Now, I know the USA has a different idea of the death penalty--they actually use it. But they've decided that he'll probably get 48 consecutive life sentences. if he's the worst serial killer they've ever had, why don't they sentence him to the death penalty instead of 48 consecutive life sentences. Hmm. Interesting.

What do you think about this?
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Old Nov 06, 03
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I think the death penalty is the easy way out. Anyone who causes that much suffering to others should have to suffer for the rest of their life as well.
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Old Nov 06, 03
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Originally posted by robyn:
I think the death penalty is the easy way out. Anyone who causes that much suffering to others should have to suffer for the rest of their life as well.
agreed. He's probably laughing his ass off knowing hes getting the death penalty cause hes already messed so many people up and hes getting the easy way out. And watch cause this is be a movie later.
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Old Nov 06, 03
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^^no no. he's NOT getting the death penalty. He's getting 48 consecutive life sentences with no parole.
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Old Nov 06, 03
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Originally posted by desiRAWR
if he's the worst serial killer they've ever had, why don't they sentence him to the death penalty instead of 48 consecutive life sentences.
from a completely economical perspective, the state can save millions of tax dollars for not having 48 potentially lengthy murder trials. plus they'll save even more money for imposing a life sentence instead of the death penalty, because death penalties cost more money with all the appeals as well as housing the criminal for X amount of years he will spend in death row. with some criminals, it may take over 10 years of appeal after appeal before a death sentence can actually go through!

--Joanne :P
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Old Nov 06, 03
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I'm sure someone will kill him in the joint.
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Old Nov 06, 03
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really both ways theres suffering
first off with the death penalty you KNOW when youre goin to die and theres nothign you could to and now way to aboid (unless you kill yorself)
and then theres life in jail, where you live your life with virtually no joy and will have MANY unhappy days

and more likely than not he will be put into isolation where he wil have no contact with the real world or other people
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Old Nov 06, 03
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fuckin killers eh
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Old Nov 06, 03
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no kiddin eh?
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Old Nov 06, 03
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[irony] gee, isn't bush jr. the worst killer america has ever seen? [/irony]
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Old Nov 06, 03
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I'm sure someone will kill him in the joint.

someone sure as hell should
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Old Nov 06, 03
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[irony] gee, isn't bush jr. the worst killer america has ever seen? [/irony]
I completely agree. An international terrorist at his finest--err finest sounds too positive. Let's just go with worst.
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Old Nov 06, 03
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from a completely economical perspective, the state can save millions of tax dollars for not having 48 potentially lengthy murder trials. plus they'll save even more money for imposing a life sentence instead of the death penalty, because death penalties cost more money with all the appeals as well as housing the criminal for X amount of years he will spend in death row. with some criminals, it may take over 10 years of appeal after appeal before a death sentence can actually go through!

--Joanne :P
I believe there will be no more murder trials, as the trials happened today. He pleaded guilty to everything...now I do not remember much of Law 12 because it was over 4 years ago (and also this is the US law, which I didn't learn in my Law 12 class of course) but can he still appeal? Even if he's pleaded guilty on each charge? I don't know where I stand here. Because miss.myra made a good point about Bush...
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Old Nov 06, 03
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personally i think that they should test products (like they do\did on animals) and\or cures for desease on criminals with life sentences. infect them with aids and run tests on their bodies rather then on a poor chimp.... give them std's and try to find cures.... anything. poor new shampoos\cleaning products into there eyes to see if they will go blind. or if their skin peels off. and hey you know what? my auntie needs a new heart. shes been on the donor list in seattle now for about a year.... and im sure there are plenty of other people in need of organs.
in some terms though, this may seem barbaric, wheres the compassion? wheres the forgiveness? i have neevr been raped, nor have i had any one close murdered, i cant even fathom what it would feel like, but when i try to think like this, put myself into the shoes of the victims or the victims families, these are the ideas that come to mind.
i dont think this man will last long in prison... mind yo im speaking from terms of what i see on television, it could be completely different. however i dont think a murderer\rapist of 48 women would do so well in prison.... even criminals (theft\drugs) have their limit.
48 women could still be alive.... thousands of people could still be alive south africa, in ireland, in bali, in south america, and most recently in iraq.... i realize this seems like a big shock to all to hear of 48 women murdered... hell when i found out about the poco pig farm i thought i was going to cry, but the more i have ben thinking, the more i realize that these murders are insignifcant in comparison of numbers to ones happening around the world... and yet no one is being sentenced for them.
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Old Nov 06, 03
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the really fucked up part about this guy is that nothing truamatic happened to him in his childhood and teen years that would psychologically implant the needing and wanting to kill.
I wanna read the like 150 some odd pages of his interviews with the detectives and what not.
its really shocking to know that his only real motive was and i quote"i didnt feel the need to have to pay for sex" maybe this all stemmed from a really shitty sex life from his 3 wives.

who knows,let the sick necropheliac murdering sunofabitch get sodomozied for the rest of his life.
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Old Nov 06, 03
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From what I gathered from teh news tonight, he plea-bargained to escape the death-penalty by showing the authorites where he buried all the bodies.

He marked them so he could notice them while driving by. How sick is that?
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Old Nov 06, 03
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That's some fucked up shit, he killed so many ppl he doesn't even remember them all.
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Old Nov 06, 03
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^^Yeah that is sick.
Yeah he made a deal 2 show them where other bodies r buried 2 solve a bunch of cold cases. That's the only reason they're keeping him alive, cuz he can solve these cases. Is it fair...I dunno. I just think it's just plain sick.
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Old Nov 07, 03
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What i think is the worst part is that for killers like this the tax payers usually end up paying for his protection to and from court dates - often killers like Gary Ridgeway have to kept seprate from the rest of the prison population because there is fear that he would be killed ---
Ridgeway appears to show no remorse , I wonder if a lifetime in a relatively comfortable prison system is really punishment for him , it's likely that with his personality he may never show remorse. I vote he be sent to a Russian or Chinese prison - then he would know some suffering

What I think is so imporatant about both Ridgeway and Pickton is that they were able to kill so many women and no one really noticed. well they noticed, but not enough action was taken
Hookers go missing all the time - they are barely treated as people (I mean seriously have you ever driven downtown with people and had them yell or throw pennies?)
You can bet if it was Suburban house wives that were dissapearing en masse that it wouldn't have taken this long for the police to take action

So many women - it's so awful
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Old Nov 07, 03
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^so totally true.Hopefully from the pickton and ridgway cases the authorities will now pay closer attention to missing prostitutes.
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Old Nov 07, 03
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I saw on the news that they have to refer to the victims in clusters of where the bodies were found rather than names because this sick bastard can only remember each victim by where he dumped their bodies. It is soo disturbing. I agree with mugsy as well .. use them for testing aids cures and other shit on people like this not on poor defensless animals. They deserve the suffering because they've made many innocent people suffer and I don't just mean the victims, their families and friends are suffering too as well as anyone who sees this case on tv or reads it in the paper. It has an effect on everyone! :soak:
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Old Nov 07, 03
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unfortunately the prison population will probably see him as a role model since he committed so many murders and got away with it.

Since he's plead guilty he cant appeal anymore. Thats it. He could appeal the sentence later and try for something less but there is no way that'll happen. With 48 consecutive life sentences (being 25 years each) I think you're eligible for parole after you serve 1/3 of your sentence - and he'll definatly be dead by then.
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Old Nov 07, 03
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^hes getting life in prison without the possibility of parole.
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Old Nov 07, 03
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I believe there will be no more murder trials, as the trials happened today. He pleaded guilty to everything...now I do not remember much of Law 12 because it was over 4 years ago (and also this is the US law, which I didn't learn in my Law 12 class of course) but can he still appeal? Even if he's pleaded guilty on each charge?
when I talk about appeals, I'm talking about appeals about whether or not he should get the death penalty (hypothetically speaking if they DID decide to give him the death penalty), not necessarily appeals about whether or not he's guilty of the charges.

--Joanne :P
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Old Nov 07, 03
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^hes getting life in prison without the possibility of parole.
with possiblity of parole???wtf is our world turning in2...that is so sad :soak: ..this guy is sick and twisted...listening 2 how that guy didnt even remember all the ppl hes killed made me sick 2 my stomach :sick: ...those poor families...this man is sick and derranged...I honestly believe if he was fucked up enough to do such a thing he will NEVER have any remorse or feel the least bit guilty for his heinous acts....leaving him in a cell for numerous yrs wont do shit...get that waste of a body off this planet...why should we have to pay for him to stay alive ..
newayz enuf said ..I usually am against capital punishment but this is a diffrent case.....let him rot in hell
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