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Old Dec 31, 03
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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha thats fucking ridiculous.
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Regardless, I don't see how it matters as they're both Masons (Senior DeMolay - Gore, Skull N Bones - Bush), that much is well known.
Masonry vs. Freemasonry are different issues.

What scares me more is that Bush Jr. is known by W (23rd letter of the alphabet) and Bush Sr. is GHB (G = 7, H = 8 B = 2, 7 + 8 + 2 = 17)

Gore couldn't have gotten elected. He tried to sway the Illuminati that he invented the internet. It didn't work.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mason

Definition number 2. Thanks for coming out.

PS

It's George Herbert Walker Bush actually, or GHWB.

You seem to bring up 23 alot, I've found no significance of this numero.

According to Bill Cooper ...[rip]... #'s 3, 7, 9, 11, 13 and any multiple of these numbers has special meaning to Illuminati.

Everything I've seen you post about teh NUMbRZ H45 b33N iN4(UR473!!!1

570P Mi5iNf0RMiNG 7h3 PUbLi(!!!1
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Old Jan 01, 04
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Conspiracies are a useless distraction... so get over them.
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[b]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mason

Definition number 2. Thanks for coming out.

PS

It's George Herbert Walker Bush actually, or GHWB.
Great. A 17 _AND_ a 23. You're definately helping me sleep at night now.

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You seem to bring up 23 alot, I've found no significance of this numero.
I made a big post where I transcribed all of Joe Malik's letters from Simon Moon a whiles back. I'm not going to do it again. Go onto google and look up "23" and "fnord".

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According to Bill Cooper ...[rip]... #'s 3, 7, 9, 11, 13 and any multiple of these numbers has special meaning to Illuminati.
Interesting.

Well, let' rule out 9 because it's a multiple of 3.

Note that that's the first 5 prime numbers after the first one save the number 5 itself.

Ever play bridge? Probably not. If you did though, you'd know that the most common divide of 5 is into 2 and 3, hence the 23.

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I could go on but Wilson and Shea do it so much better than I do.
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Well, let' rule out 9 because it's a multiple of 3.

Note that that's the first 5 prime numbers after the first one save the number 5 itself.

Ever play bridge? Probably not. If you did though, you'd know that the most common divide of 5 is into 2 and 3, hence the 23.
Addendum: Note the first prime number after those listed.
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Conspiracies are a useless distraction... so get over them.
A conspiracy is merely a government that you don't know about.

Why shouldn't it exist?
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Ebbomega: C'mon you love Wilson so much and you're saying probably instead of maybe?

http://www.maybelogic.com

I'd kick your ass in bridge ;). Show me where 23 is referenced in historical monuments, secret societies, religious text etc and then I'll care.

Maybe I didn't look hard enough but all I saw after a google search was Dobbs inspired sites that were self referenced. I want semi-palatable leads atleast.

...

Senior: You're right, they are a distraction, for the most part. But let's just say you were a Multi Billionaire with a global network of Billionaires working through world government forums and secret societies. Wouldn't it make sense to bury the truth in a mountain of lies?

That way people hunting for truth would be met with lets say, 80% disinformation. Upon seeing all this useless jargon, they'd become demoralized and write the whole thing off as a "useless distraction" as you did?

I know you like staying in the political, so I will show you a fairly concise arguement on political conspiracy.

*Take Bilderberg's stragle hold on NATO for example (it's odd how they have so many influencial members yet you never hear about them on the media no?)*

To understand who controls the leadership of NATO, the world's biggest military operation, you only have to look at the connection of the NATO Secretary-Generals to the Bilderberg Group.

· The earlier sec-gens do not appear to have been Bilderberg attendees, but if you know different, please let me know. These were Lord Ismay (1952-1957), Paul Henri Spaak (1957-1961), Dirk U. Stikker (1961-1964), and Manlio Brosio (1964-1971).

But from then on, the leader of NATO has become a Bilderberg appointment.

They are:

· Joseph Luns (1971-1984) Bilderberg Group

· Lord Carrington (1984-1988) Bilderberg Group, the chairman since 1991).

· Manfred Wörner (1988-1994) Bilderberg Group

· Willy Claes (1994-1995) Bilderberg Group

· Javier Solana (1995-1999) Bilderberg Group

· Lord Robertson (1999- ) Bilderberg Group

How much easier it therefore becomes to instigate Bilderberg policy in the Gulf, Bosnia, Kosovo, etc., etc. Especially when every major "peace" negotiator in Bosnia was a member of Bilderberg and/or it's related network, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, Council on Foreign Relations, and Trilateral Commission.

And now an unbiased report on the Bilderberg conspiracy. This documentary is about 40mins, watch it or don't reserve judgement Nolan:

http://tv.phaseiii.org/?channel=3&vi...iew_fair_use=1

Or plop this in your media player:

http://video.phaseiii.org/documentar...ildeberger.wmv

Make any judgement you want afterwords, but if you don't watch it, you can't say it's a waste of time since you know nothing about it.
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Originally posted by djmarkpaul:
Ebbomega: C'mon you love Wilson so much and you're saying probably instead of maybe?

http://www.maybelogic.com

I'd kick your ass in bridge ;). Show me where 23 is referenced in historical monuments, secret societies, religious text etc and then I'll care.

Maybe I didn't look hard enough but all I saw after a google search was Dobbs inspired sites that were self referenced. I want semi-palatable leads atleast.

...

Senior: You're right, they are a distraction, for the most part. But let's just say you were a Multi Billionaire with a global network of Billionaires working through world government forums and secret societies. Wouldn't it make sense to bury the truth in a mountain of lies?

That way people hunting for truth would be met with lets say, 80% disinformation. Upon seeing all this useless jargon, they'd become demoralized and write the whole thing off as a "useless distraction" as you did?

I know you like staying in the political, so I will show you a fairly concise arguement on political conspiracy.

*Take Bilderberg's stragle hold on NATO for example (it's odd how they have so many influencial members yet you never hear about them on the media no?)*

To understand who controls the leadership of NATO, the world's biggest military operation, you only have to look at the connection of the NATO Secretary-Generals to the Bilderberg Group.

· The earlier sec-gens do not appear to have been Bilderberg attendees, but if you know different, please let me know. These were Lord Ismay (1952-1957), Paul Henri Spaak (1957-1961), Dirk U. Stikker (1961-1964), and Manlio Brosio (1964-1971).

But from then on, the leader of NATO has become a Bilderberg appointment.

They are:

· Joseph Luns (1971-1984) Bilderberg Group

· Lord Carrington (1984-1988) Bilderberg Group, the chairman since 1991).

· Manfred Wörner (1988-1994) Bilderberg Group

· Willy Claes (1994-1995) Bilderberg Group

· Javier Solana (1995-1999) Bilderberg Group

· Lord Robertson (1999- ) Bilderberg Group

How much easier it therefore becomes to instigate Bilderberg policy in the Gulf, Bosnia, Kosovo, etc., etc. Especially when every major "peace" negotiator in Bosnia was a member of Bilderberg and/or it's related network, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, Council on Foreign Relations, and Trilateral Commission.

And now an unbiased report on the Bilderberg conspiracy. This documentary is about 40mins, watch it or don't reserve judgement Nolan:

http://tv.phaseiii.org/?channel=3&am...iew_fair_use=1

Or plop this in your media player:

http://video.phaseiii.org/documentar...ildeberger.wmv

Make any judgement you want afterwords, but if you don't watch it, you can't say it's a waste of time since you know nothing about it.
I don't have time to go into detail on this but in short I don't dismiss conspiracy theories as being false until proven to be. I find some of the ideas related to them to be very compelling and well thought out. However I think that to create positive changes where we live it's best to organize on a local level dealing with issues that are relevant to us and our communities. I will assert that no government secret or otherwise can control the actions of individual groups working on issues facing their communities. Thanks to the internet it's now also very easy for these groups to have loose affiliation with each other and cooperate on a certain level. What I'm getting at is that I just don't see how conspiracy theories matter. What difference would it make if we could prove that lizards are running the planet?
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Old Jan 01, 04
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I don't have time to go into detail on this but in short I don't dismiss conspiracy theories as being false until proven to be.
Nothing is set in stone, to do that is to dismiss your ability to question.

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I find some of the ideas related to them to be very compelling and well thought out. However I think that to create positive changes where we live it's best to organize on a local level dealing with issues that are relevant to us and our communities.
I agree. That's why I'm part of:

http://parecon.org/

and

http://www.mawovancouver.org/

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I will assert that no government secret or otherwise can control the actions of individual groups working on issues facing their communities. Thanks to the internet it's now also very easy for these groups to have loose affiliation with each other and cooperate on a certain level. What I'm getting at is that I just don't see how conspiracy theories matter. What difference would it make if we could prove that lizards are running the planet?
Knowledge is Power. It is the difference between being a pawn or a king on the chessboard. If you don't know the truth, your efforts can always be manipulated.
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Getting a bit excited trying to post that were you?
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Old Jan 01, 04
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You're better than me.
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You're better than me.
Anyway, this is all way to serious for me right now as my thoughts are drifting towards the debauchery that is getting so close at hand. Happy new year Mark!
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Old Jan 01, 04
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Happy New Year
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