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Old Mar 06, 04
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Job Hunting?

I have a few questions for the peeps on F&K...

1.) Who is currently looking for a job right now?

2.) Who is working, but is actively looking/interviewing for a new position?

3.) Who feels they need work/coaching on resume writing, interviewing techniques or need a better understanding as to how companies hire staff or what they typically look for in candidates/potential hires?
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Old Mar 06, 04
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Old Mar 06, 04
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I definately fall under category #2.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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1. i am currently looking for a job right now.

2. i dont have another job right now.

3. i need help on the whole resume thing....mine's too long.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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I definitely fit under category #2.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kraig
2.) Who is working, but is actively looking/interviewing for a new position?
I am too smart to be a receptionist - so I have started looking for a new job on the sly :)
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Old Mar 06, 04
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kraig:
I have a few questions for the peeps on F&K...

1.) Who is currently looking for a job right now?

2.) Who is working, but is actively looking/interviewing for a new position?

3.) Who feels they need work/coaching on resume writing, interviewing techniques or need a better understanding as to how companies hire staff or what they typically look for in candidates/potential hires?
1- i have been trying to look for a job for a while now
2- not currently working
3- i guess i need some help. i mean if i didnt id think i would be hired by now.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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#2

but learning new technique for those situations you can't expect see, (eg. interviews) something I wouldn't mind checking out. it depends where the efforts are focused.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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#2 sums me up. I have taken a resume/interview course before, but I could always take a few more pointers.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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working and always looking for new things :) My jobs allow me to be flexable and with things going on in my life right now I'm trying to keep as busy as I can and save a ton.

anyone needing promo work done? ;)
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Old Mar 06, 04
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ok kraig whats all this about. tell us now!
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Old Mar 06, 04
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I need a job for either this summer or for next year. I just missed the application deadline for my grad program so now im stuck. im sure i could use resume help as well. unfortunately i need a job which actually pays well since i have 2 undergraduate degrees and now that im finished i dont feel 'furniture mover' should apply to me anymore.

Dear God, PM me if you can help. Very scared at entering the big wide world.
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If I were to put together some information sessions on say Resume Tips and Interviewing, would people actually attend?

Some background on me:
I am the Division Director for the Vancouver branch of Robert Half Technology (www.rht.com). We are one of seven divisions of a company by the name of Robert Half International (www.rhi.com). Some specifics on RHI:
- founded in 1948 (so it's been in this business for 55+ years)
- 2.8 billion dollar company that is publicly traded on the NYSE
- Roughly 325 office locations world wide (multi-national)

That gives you an idea on the company... Now although the division I work in is more Information Technology specific, I can still speak quite effectively to things like resumes and interviewing. -- In my 3 years tenure here, I have interviewed over 500 candidates and put these IT-types out to work. This also would involve direct client interaction at the CEO/CFO/VP/Director level so I am familiar with what they are looking for in candidates as well.

I am not saying I am going to help you find a job through my company, I am offering to share some of my knowledge and expertise to refine an existing resume or enhance some of your current interview techniques.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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i knew it. and to think there was a job hook up.

i might be interested kraig and i think some other people will to.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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count me in. it couldn't hurt to upgrade my resmue/interview skills.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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im in.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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meh. the damned problem these days, is all the dumbasses getting jobs with their computer science degree, when all they know is what they read out of their books. Then someone like me with a lifetime of hands on experience gets left in the dust, and then confronting one of these CS geeks, I school them and feel better about myself. For instance, I was at a co-workers home a couple weeks ago helping him fix his computer and install Linux. He worked for Microsoft for 5 years as a software engineer. It's just not fair.

It's a damned shame if you ask me. I'm Linux junkie, used to be a security consultant, I can network an entire building and 200 workstations in a couple hours, can fix a computer wether it be software or hardware in under an hour, sometimes less then 10 minutes. Yet I am stuck as a sales rep for MCI.

How fucking lame, I hate our job market.
There's my two cents.
Sorry for the ranting, just ignore it. I'm bitter.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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i'd be interested, that's for sure. i'm looking for a job and my resume hasn't been getting me anywhere so far. :(
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Old Mar 06, 04
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Originally posted by neoh:
meh. the damned problem these days, is all the dumbasses getting jobs with their computer science degree, when all they know is what they read out of their books. Then someone like me with a lifetime of hands on experience gets left in the dust, and then confronting one of these CS geeks, I school them and feel better about myself. For instance, I was at a co-workers home a couple weeks ago helping him fix his computer and install Linux. He worked for Microsoft for 5 years as a software engineer. It's just not fair.

It's a damned shame if you ask me. I'm Linux junkie, used to be a security consultant, I can network an entire building and 200 workstations in a couple hours, can fix a computer wether it be software or hardware in under an hour, sometimes less then 10 minutes. Yet I am stuck as a sales rep for MCI.

How fucking lame, I hate our job market.
There's my two cents.
Sorry for the ranting, just ignore it. I'm bitter.
the ranting is good i constantly rant about the job market. What pisses me off is guy stores would love to hire chicks even if they know nothing about what their selling but just cuse their a girl and it will attract guys to walk in they hire them.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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I've had a few interviews with IT and tech companies in Vancouver. Many of these companies are flakey and the people running them do not have a clue about how to hire people. Which should not be surprising, this IS the west coast.

At one place, a venture financed by a guy who sold his previous company to Microsoft, the guy interviewing me was shocked that I had worked as a self-employed software developer and did it with with my own corporation (corporations are actually easy to set up and no big deal). He would not hire me because he said I would steal their secrets and go into business against them! As I was leaving the place, I noticed the receptionist in a heavy necking session with one of the suits. That company folded about a year later.

Another place, Computer Associates, the guy was pissed off cuz I said as a programmer I wanted a 17" monitor (everyone had 14 or 15" at the time but I had a 17" at home).

In another place, the big Paprican lab at UBC, they had the boss's secretary do all the interviews for engineering type jobs, as she munched on a sandwich.

The most important skill a person can bring to a Vancouver interview is to be younger than the supervisor or hiring person. And look like you would be fun at a party. I'm not kidding! And if for example the hiring person was at UBC, or BCIT or whatever, pretend you really like that school and are connected - these guys really want to hire someone just like themselves from their little network.

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BTW another thing is to simply pay an unscrupulous headhunter (most will not do this). I know a guy who has marginal IT skills but he got good jobs in New York City and Vancouver because his dad (a doctor) paid a headhunter to find him a spot, one was with KPMG in NYC, the other was with a CA association in Van. Eventually he was fired from both jobs.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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do they need a new CEO?
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Old Mar 06, 04
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I'm very interested Kraig.
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Old Mar 06, 04
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i went to a resume/interview workshop sometime around grade 11 and it helped

a lot of the tips and stuff they have may sound pretty obvious, but you'd be surprised how many people dont know or follow them

as for getting a good playing office job (ie. computer related), sadly it depends a lot on who you know, but skills still really come into play... i guess what im saying is you have to have both the skills and the networking

if you're just looking a retail job or some job at the mall, the best way to get one is persistancy. also, its important not to assume what certain places are or aren't looking for in terms of employees... making false assumptions like this will just make you feel marginalized and out of place, especially when they turn out to be untrue!
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Old Mar 06, 04
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oh yeah, props on the idea kraig! very respectable
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Old Mar 06, 04
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... is all the dumbasses getting jobs with their computer science degree, when all they know is what they read out of their books. Then someone like me with a lifetime of hands on experience gets left in the dust.... It's just not fair.
eep... operations people come at a dime a dozen. half the ops people i work with don't have university degrees... yes they have loads of technical knowedge but they have 0 theoretical expertise and couldn't code their way out of a paper bag. the truth is that advanced programming concepts can't really be gained any other way than through a serious degree's worth of study.. you might briefly touch on them in your own explorations but without formalizing this knowledge your potential will remain stunted. if you really think you're missing the boat and you deserve not to then go for some commercial certification.. study hard and sit the exams... so many people get their feet through the door this way
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