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Mar 10, 04
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In support of Todd during this rough time...
Here are various quotes regarding this infamous incident, gathered from articles, quotes from other players and commentators...some are famous and well known, love and understand this game for what it is, others are biased American trash or media-wh0res adding fuel to the flames.
"But it should be pointed out that, were it not for the NHL's instigator rule, this situation would likely have resolved itself back on Feb. 16 after Moore knocked Canucks captain Markus Naslund out for..." " without the threat of additional penalties the Canucks would have been able to police the situation immediately..." "If Moore had gotten up from Bertuzzi’s sucker-punch, we wouldn’t even be talking about this, which is another part of the problem. Only because of all those broken bones and how close Moore came to being paralyzed did it become a major issue..." "as long as the NHL judges dirty play by the amount of physical damage done, it’s never going to be anything..." "Yes, he meant to hit him, but there is no way anyone could foresee the end result..." "Right now he's very upset about what happened. In terms of the incident, he's remorseful and relieved that Mr. Moore's injuries at this point appear, that a full recovery should be possible…'' "The one thing about our game, it's a very emotional game and you can quickly lose your temper and lose your focus..." "What happened was wrong and I am sure that nobody feels worse about it than Todd..." "...wondered if some of those calling for stiff penalties weren't motivated by self-interest. Any other Western Conference club with Stanley Cup aspirations wouldn't mind seeing Vancouver lose Bertuzzi for the playoffs..." "the media pumped up the game as a chance for revenge on Moore and "then as soon as someone goes overboard, which Bertuzzi did, he realizes everyone is going to jump on his back and say there should be a playoff suspension..." Most of you people here have probably seen only the slow-motion regurgitated crap the media feeds you. Berts actions were inexcusable, and whatever the league hands out to him, he should accept without appeal. But please try to understand before you spout off your mindless hate. I, as a Canucks fan, hope for Steve's speedy recovery, and his return to NHL play as soon as time allows. I, as a Canucks fan, stand by Todd and will support him through this tough time, and after he has paid his dues, will forgive him, and move on. 
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Mar 10, 04
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^^ indeed
steve moore should already consider himself lucky. todd did him a favor. at least he didnt find himself at a plaza rave here in vancouver. im sure some asian nammer gangsta thugs woulda jumped his ass fo sho! 10 on 1 biatch! :kam: yea anyways... back to writing my paper!
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i like how you included "asian nammer gangster thugs" so many adjectives man!! atleast im not confused.
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Also, what Todd did was outright stupid, he should be out for atleast the rest of this season, if not 10-20 games in the next one as well.
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Mar 11, 04
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^^ holy fuck i dont think so all he did was punch him with the glove on, im sure if anyone one here plays juinor hockey or has but this kinda shit happens ALL the time the fact that steeve got hurt is the only thing thats different this time, and it was probly his 3 teamates jumping on the pile that broke his neck not tod gloved punch he should get no more then 10games and a large fine for this its no worse the domis elbow in the playoffs.
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Mar 11, 04
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what Bert did wasnt really that bad 5 bills says most of the broken bones were sustained from half the Avalanch team jumpin on moore and bertuzzi but im willing to bet that will be over looked so that the mass money market that is america can get its way
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Mar 11, 04
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i agree with the point that if moore had gotten up right away, then this wouldn't be an issue at all.
if you see the replay from the front, you can see bert yelling at moore before he took the swing. thats not excusing bert but moore knew bert was right behind him. he did go down like a sack of potatos and i'm sure 3 other guys dogpiling on him didn't help either. anyways, i'm sure getting suspended will teach bert a lesson, just a long as he can play in the playoffs.
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Mar 11, 04
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My guess is the damage done to his neck happened right at the point of impact when he hit the ice, the only one on top of him at that point was Bertuzzi and he would have taken another shot at Moore if the Avalanche didn't jump on him.
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I AM A TRUE CANUCKS FAN AND WILL SUPPORT THIS TEAM AND IT'S PLAYERS NO MATTER WHAT. I AM NOT SAYING WHAT BERT DID WAS RIGHT BUT I SUPPORT HIM BECAUSE I CAN IMAGINE WHERE HE IS AT RIGHT NOW MENTALLY AND I FEEL FOR HIM. I FOR ONE WILL PAY GOOD MONEY TO BE AT GM PLACE TO CHEER IN HIS RETURN WHEN HE DOES COME BACK. BERT YOUR A GOOD MAN AND WHEN THE MEDIA FINDS SOME OTHER POOR SAP TOO TARGET THEN THIS INCIDENT WILL BE FORGOTTEN. TODD I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU BACK AND SEND YOU GOOD KARMA. KEEP YOUR HEAD UP THIS WILL BLOW OVER EVENTUALLY AND NOBODY WILL REMEMBER IT UNTIL IT HAPPENS AGAIN AND THEY USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE. IT AMAZES HOW PEOPLE PLAY INTO THE MEDIA SO WELL.
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Mar 11, 04
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it's all about intent to injure. and compared to mcsorley, and various elbows, knees and hits from behind, there was no intent to injure.
biggest suspension was mcsorley for 23or24 games, and not even a colorado fan can tell me this was worse than mcsorley.
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I'd say if tuzzi did that to domi, then domi would turn around and start dooking it out with big bert and then attempt to injure him back. Bottom line, Moore was a pussy, but not smart enough to mess with a best friend to someone he injured a couple meetings prior too and definitely not to mess with someone who is bigger than he is.
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Mar 11, 04
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I'm glad to see there are peeps in support of bertuzzi. I remember in the last few canucks threads people are just bashing on him and shit, it showed be how many bandwagon hoppers there are. It's true Bert's shot was cheap, but I'm sure if you were really watching the game, you were cheering when you saw bertuzzi take a swing at moore. But who would have knew moore would get KO'D so easily like that and crash to the ice like a sack of potatoes. The league needs to put that into consideration. Bertuzzi took a swing at moore with his fists, it was like the mcsorely insident where he used his stick. Bertuzzi wasn't that cheap, there was a warning that it was coming, he grabbed moore before he swung. The media is all hyping this incident up, saying it's just as bad as the mcsorely brashier thing, fuck that, it's not even close. Just cuz more got a broken neck out of it, i mean, bertuzzi just wanted to punch him, he had no intensions of breakin the mans neck. Lets hope for the best for Big Bert :cake:
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^ but the thing i don't l ike is bertuzzi shoulda waited till moore turned around, instead when moore was STARTING to turn his head, bam bert punches moore flush in the face and i am sure thats where the injury occured.
reason as follows. moore was turning his head when he got punched meaning he took the punch on an angle when his neck and back were vulnerable. i believe he sustained the neck injury here beacuse off that reason. I just thought of this now, but i think the injury was caused cause his neck was twisting around when he got hit in the head
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He didn't intend for it to go that far. And I really don't think Moore would be hurt so much if that Avs dude didn't think it'd be a good idea to dogpile on the both of them.
That being said, Tuzzi is at fault. He suckerpunched him for crying out loud, from behind, with no provocation. It went further than it should have, but it shouldn't have happened at all.
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Mar 11, 04
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^ i dunno reports say his neck fractured when he was punched. I am going on what reports state, not to mention it makes sense for me....
ufc and boxing. boxers know how to take a punch, are expecting punches. they don't get punched with their back turned to them. Ufc most fighters know how to defend. not to mention they know and see everything coming at them. they don't turn their head sideways and get punched flush from behind... when ur vulnerable your vulnerable. and moore did not expect the punch at that moment. i still stand by what i said you can think what you believe and iw ill think of what i believe
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Mar 11, 04
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it's clearly a sucker punch, i'm not saying it was ok.
people get punched in hockey ALL THE TIME. punches with gloves on are to hockey as a push is to a nfl player. ebbo: i totally agree, that was the first thing i said when i found out he messed his neck. 200lbs of hockey player flying on with force as your sliding on your face. riiiight that didn't cause some damage.
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We will just have to wait and see what the final results show. The doctors are still running tests on Moore.
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