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View Poll Results: What do u think of trolls?
Awesome! My fav! 8 15.69%
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 12 23.53%
Somewhat humorous until it gets personal 17 33.33%
Don't want to see them... 14 27.45%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

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Old Oct 21, 01
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Creating a temporary solution for TROLLS

I guess the topic of trolls has been on my mind for sometime and even though we've encountered very few of them I still would like to discuss the issue a little further.


Trolls and their influence....

I guess my biggest problem with trolls is the fact that many of them remain faceless. In high school if you went around telling people to "fuck off”,” eat shit", "bend over and let me ass fuck you", you might lose some friends and carry the day to day risk of ending up with a dental chart that resembles Theoren Fleury. The same goes for work, you can't tell your fellow workers and boss to go fuck themselves and expect to keep your job for very long. So why should all the rules change when we visit a public forums board? Is it because we can get away with it without fear of anything happening to us? Is it because we enjoy freedom of speech, perversion and bitterness? Is it a way to make ourself feel better at the expense of another? Trolls have a way of rising people's temperatures and enjoy watching other people defend themselves. Eventually they’ll grow out of it, get a job, girlfriend or hamsters and live happily ever after. Until that happens they'll be found wandering message boards posting all kinds of useless yet sometimes humorous text.

Why F&K has always maintained a low-level interest in trolls...
The main reason is the fact that I get very tired of seeing trolls run rampant. At first it's comical, innocent and entertaining but after awhile it becomes stale. A clever name, signature and theme do wonders but that can only keep the audience happy for so long. Like any act, you eventually retire, some earlier than others.

Identifying a troll
  • Has a name with sexual undertones, mockery or played out themes
  • Most posts are negative/useless
  • Talks about sex with animals, women, men or seniors
  • Gets all bitter when posts are made directly at them
  • Accuses/blames person with words like fucking, shithead, fuckface, bitch etc...
  • Never agrees to meet someone and talk face to face
  • Replies to posts by carefully replying to each sentence that the person wrote
  • Jumps down the person’s throat over a typo
  • Can't spell very well themselves


I've never liked playing "god", "dad" or "Gandhi” but sometimes I intervene. If I want to view the masterpieces of trolls I’ll visit other sites or start telling people how my dick looks like a country turnip to random people on icq. If that's what gets you off go do it Saint Elsewhere. Unfortunately, I don't finance this site so you can tell me how to make bum gravy or swallow my dad’s load.

Bottom line: Trolls usually don't last here.


~fORM
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Old Oct 21, 01
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eeewwwwwww....freaks..
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Old Oct 21, 01
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I played with the idea for a bit, and went with a custom hacked, usergroup for "trolls" called "F&K Probation" Everyone we think is casusing trouble we throw into that usergroup, and then they become stripped of there features. They can't vote on polls, or post them, they can't rate threads, edit their profile, or give karma. Then if they DO deside to be upstanding members, we can remove them from "F&K Probation" and back into normal features. You will be able to pick out these members, cuz they will have a nice little TAG under there names.

snyx
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Old Oct 21, 01
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Somatic can only hope to improve
The answer is not to reply to them.

People seem to like trolls..... myself included. No matter what message board it is, the trolls always get the most replies.

Go figure.

-Dwight:Somatic:
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Old Oct 21, 01
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I like macing em

Cuffing them and changing their features is A-1 :070:

Unfortunately I don't want his dirty clothes scattered all over this F&K room....so he's stuck here.... :262:
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Old Oct 21, 01
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well its like haveing odd ball in the group u know
i think that they just want attention
cause they where depribed when they where young ???
ionno

question who is FKPOLICE?????
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Old Oct 21, 01
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Originally posted by dragon boi
question who is FKPOLICE?????
don't ask :219:
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Old Oct 21, 01
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Originally posted by snyx

don't ask :219:

icic
ok
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Old Oct 21, 01
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I wasn't aware we had a new troll.

Another bitch....

-Dwight:Somatic:
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Old Oct 21, 01
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see, this is what happens...
you piss me off, and fill my site with shit, and I delete you, and everyone of your posts, and ban you IP in less then 3 mins
I can't even crap faster then that!

snyx
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Old Oct 21, 01
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Originally posted by snyx
see, this is what happens...
you piss me off, and fill my site with shit, and I delete you, and everyone of your posts, and ban you IP in less then 3 mins
I can't even crap faster then that!

snyx
You can if you down 4 cans of Red Bull.
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Old Oct 21, 01
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f&k must promote and keep with the "good clean board" repuation so trolls will not be tolerated even if they have to enforce censorship to replace a troll's creativity (although i must say most trolls arent all that creative) it must be done to retain the plurry and cutesiness of f&k.

thank you.
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Old Oct 21, 01
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mc hammered...that's nasty man..
we didn't have to know....lol =)
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Old Oct 21, 01
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Quote:
Originally posted by snyx
see, this is what happens...
you piss me off, and fill my site with shit, and I delete you, and everyone of your posts, and ban you IP in less then 3 mins
I can't even crap faster then that!

snyx
YOUR site eh?

Last time I checked, the site was called form-kaos.com. NOT snyx.com. So I'm guessing that it's more THEIR site than yours.

I get the idea that you're pretty much just their moderator bitch who thinks what he's doing is alot more important than it actually is.


oh and I'm still here. are you constipated or something?
need some X Lax?
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Old Oct 22, 01
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I get the idea that you're pretty much just their moderator bitch who thinks what he's doing is alot more important than it actually is.
Without Snyx, there would be no F&K.com, so his role on this site is extremely important. Props to him for putting and keeping together this site for all of us.

Erica :AZN:
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Old Oct 22, 01
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Active Censorship

I'm all for tasteful, active, censcorship.

Unfortunately it would take a lot of work and trust on the part of the mods to do it properly.

Due to the age group on these boards, theres a lot of immaturity (at all ages, but mostly in the lower end) that we could all do without here. If it's really needed, the other boards can take it up.

Whats happened at different times on the other boards which operate in a virtual state of anarchy is that the immature wreck it for the rest.

Ban troll IPs after one warning. But kick the Mod who abuses their power.

peacout
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Old Oct 23, 01
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Ever go on lx, sir K?

It is pretty much what you call a virtual state of anarchy, and there is hardly ANY trolling on there at all. in fact I can't remember seeing ANY trolling done on it at all. I'm sure there has been, but obviously not that much. You know why? because people RESPECT the fact that they are free to post whatever they want, and they don't abuse that right.

what I'm trying to say is that the harder you pull on a dog's leash, the harder it pulls back. And if you just let the dog off the leash in the first place, it'll listen to you when you tell it to heel.
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Old Oct 23, 01
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to my recollection every time ive ever seen someone training a dog to heel they used a leash at first and yanked back on it....and eventually then the dog got it....

has nothing do with what ur talkin bout but whatever...
g'day..

corrie
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Old Oct 23, 01
Queerduck
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to my recollection every time ive ever seen someone training a dog to heel they used a leash at first and yanked back on it....and eventually then the dog got it....

has nothing do with what ur talkin bout but whatever...
g'day..

corrie
oh well... that still doesn't change the fact that trolls are generally caused by Nazi-like moderation tactics.
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Old Oct 23, 01
Using the force
 
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Anarchy Model vs. Patrolled Model

Queer:

I know what you're getting at.

--------------
At MIT's tech department they had a serious problem with
hackers taking down the server back in the 70s. They got better and better security measures, and the hackers got better and better at killing the server through these security measures.

Then they hired a hacker they busted to secure the network.

He introduced a new command called KILLSERV. It killed the server. A few more times the server went down but the hackers realized it wasnt a challenge anymore and pretty well stopped.

-------------

But this isn't a server / programming environment where it's difficult to post garbage. This is a forum where people communicate and share ideas and talk about issues.

Since it's a means of communication, like Form said, through the internet- people have the ability to talk shit without getting knocked out. And that guarantee of anyonimity attracts quacks like Trolls. And that guarantee of anyonimity is why responsible policing (not nazi-style moderation) is required, IMO.

While you say that you havent seen many trolls, perhaps my definition is different and I have seen many.

peacout
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Old Oct 23, 01
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im armed and ready 4 em

juss now chekin the power on my troll-prod. settin it on maximum pain!!! cant wait to use this once again. muahahaha!!!
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Old Oct 24, 01
Using the force
 
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Troll-pod

he he he
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Old Oct 26, 01
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Let me rock on em

I hate pansy trolls :snyx:


Batter-up
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Old Jan 10, 05
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Originally Posted by ƒORM
Identifying a troll
  • Has a name with sexual undertones, mockery or played out themes
  • Most posts are negative/useless
  • Talks about sex with animals, women, men or seniors
  • Gets all bitter when posts are made directly at them
  • Accuses/blames person with words like fucking, shithead, fuckface, bitch etc...
  • Never agrees to meet someone and talk face to face
  • Replies to posts by carefully replying to each sentence that the person wrote
  • Jumps down the person’s throat over a typo
  • Can't spell very well themselves
I know some accounts that are real people that fit this description.
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Old Jan 10, 05
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Man, there has been a full on Troll explosion here lately.

I say do whatever is necessary guys.
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