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Apr 17, 04
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Nuclear Waste Land (Pictures from close up)
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/
I just finished reading through this and I had to share it with you all. Unreal some of the pictures she took! 
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Apr 17, 04
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wow, that was a first read/look for me. that is just, wow. that one got a hold of me.
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Apr 17, 04
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Those pictures of the kids toys are so sad. I was just watching a show yesterday about a family from Kiev, they have to test everyone of their meals for radiation.
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Apr 17, 04
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stumbled across that photo diary last week too. She did a great job. People in Vancouver should be greatful that a biological and ecological disaster of THAT magnatude may never be a reality here. Its important to keep pressures on governments to eradicate dependencies on "alternate" power sources like nuclear reactors. That shit was once considered a viable source for renewable energy.
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Apr 22, 04
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when i first looked at that i could not stop reading it.
use this simulator to try and run your own nuclear reactor http://www.ida.liu.se/~her/npp/demo.html#instructions
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Apr 22, 04
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I haven't checked out any of the facts but I could probably argue that the comment you just made is very uninformed. There are hundreds of nuclear power plants running throughout North America that have had absolutely no problems. In fact I think 3 mile island is one of the only issues we've had over here. What do you suggest we use for power? The plant in Chernobyl (sp?) was a poor design, nothing that would ever get passed over here. They did not have an outer shell on the reactor. Again I haven't done much studying on the subject lately but it would be interesting to see how much effect coal fired power plants have on humans.... you never here about it but my guess is there is a shitload of damage done to humans and environments..... not to mention nuclear power is much cheaper. I'll see what I can dig up but I would be really interested to see the stats on the number of premature deaths in NA due to air quality.
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Apr 22, 04
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reactor
This reactor is going to be decomissioned starting in a year or two. This is the actual reactor building encased in thick enough cement that an jet if smashed into it would not harm the reactor apparently. The chernobyl reactor didn't have anything like this till they built the sarcophaugus (sp?) after the fact. I kind of find this stuff interesting.
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Apr 22, 04
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^^ But is a supposed global dependency on nuclear power a good thing? Has it ever been? Not to mention the sole reason nuclear energy exists.. I dont' think you have to answer that one. I'm saying that as citizens, consumers, voters, etc. WE do have alternate choices - choices in lifestyle, consumerist alternatives that may support and give light to alternate energy systems. And we should always give that a chance, and urge companies, industries & governments to nurture possibilities of conscious energy sources - in all ways. I dont' have all the answers, do you? And i'm not purporting that I do either. But the right to make choices - consumerist, societal, political & otherwise- based on consciousness, is where new developments, systems & energies can happen. No news there, ya dig? Regardless, carelessness and dependency on souces like nuclear energy will always be a threat, no matter where you live. A mishap, or disaster affects more than the lot of land a reactor sits on. Its simplistic to base a threat on nuclear energy alone, but some countries, governments, and industries dont' give a fuck. They'll do, and use anything to get their piece. And possibly "bring the world down" with em. Is that worth supporting? I don't know about you, but that CHINA gig isn't really a safe bet, ya think? Last edited by **TORMENT**; Apr 22, 04 at 07:16 AM.
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Apr 22, 04
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what about waste produced by nuclear energy? no one's discussed this yet!!
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Apr 22, 04
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the cloud and radiation in the clouds from chyrnobyl still floats around to this day...slowly going away...
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Apr 22, 04
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A global dependency on any type of form of energy is not a good thing. Look whats happening with oil. I'm sure there have been alot of casualties due to wars that were over oil. We have to get rid of a centralized energy source and start distributing it. The sole reason nuclear energy exists is because of physics nothing more, nothing less. Never in my post did I say that everybody should move over to nuclear power, the point I was trying to make is there aren't many alternatives around and that it is arguable that nuclear power is safe and reliable. What are our alternate choices? I'm not sure why you went on a rant about choices, I never said that we should use only one source of energy.
I mentioned North America in my post because I know that we tend not to cut corners in designs for such things. I agree that not everyone should have the option to use nuclear power. But because one country implemented a poor design, the rest of the world should not use nuclear power? As I have stated we have hundreds of them running in North America alone, I also think France might have their fair share. Look how long our CANDU reactors have been running with no problems. All I want to know is what are the alternatives? Quote:
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