Go Back   FormKaos: Board > General Discussion > Coffee Lounge
FAQ Community Arcade Today's Posts Search

Coffee Lounge Talk amongst other community members.

Reply
 
LinkBack Topic Tools Rate Topic
  #26 (permalink)  
Old Apr 23, 04
Mad Acid Pirate
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Dr. Doom can only hope to improve
1151 to start.. yeah Doom somehow thinks he doesn't need to do the exersizes to make him read quicker.
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old Apr 23, 04
sNyx.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
sNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nice
however, you still speak in the third.
"Surely logic has no place here, eh Sherlock"
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old Apr 23, 04
hosehead
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
inkster is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by stringbeans
i think the test is just using self-fulfilling prophecy
my thoughts exactly.

i should sell a product that allows you to save oxygen just by letting you know you're breathing.
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old Apr 23, 04
sNyx.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
sNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nicesNyx is just really nice
So it's not possible to improve your reading?

You mean the book included with the package written by people who stuided reading development is crap, made strickly to sell the hope of faster reading? I agree it is marketed under this thought, it's called 'eyeQ' for fuck sakes. It seems alot easier then it looks but this is the American way to advertise.

Still sometimes inkster you should put the bitter on backburn and open your thoughts to things that can acutally improve yourself. Maybe you will shake some of this Alpha-male attitude.
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old Apr 23, 04
Before My Time.
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Lunch Box has a little shameless behaviour in the past
312 to 462... is that right??? thats fucked man.. seems like a lot.
Reply With Quote
  #31 (permalink)  
Old Apr 23, 04
STOLE YOUR BIKE
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
stringbeans has a spectacular aura aboutstringbeans has a spectacular aura about
opening your eyes to new ideas and products does not mean turning off your brain.

when people take that reading demo they do so with the impression or belief that they'll be able to read faster afterwards. this impression will subconciously make the people read faster after all those eye exercises are done, even though the eye exercises didnt do anything. this is self-fulfilling prophecy. you'll know this is the case if it actually does turn out that you read the 2nd story faster than the first; however, your comprehension of the story has dramatically dropped. the first time i tried the test i actually read slower during the second story. the second time i tried the test i did perform a little bit faster, but my comprehension of the second story was close to zero.

also, if you look at the stories a bit more closely, you'll realize that the first story is always very descriptive in terms of describing a setting or a person. descriptive stories, if you thoroughly read them, will lag your mind a bit. the second story, however, is never very descriptive and your mind doesnt need to visualize the story as much.
Reply With Quote
  #32 (permalink)  
Old Apr 23, 04
where's the beach
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
mugsy is on a distinguished road
looks like somebody wore his smart pants today.





im just kidding john, you're always smart.
Reply With Quote
  #33 (permalink)  
Old Apr 23, 04
STOLE YOUR BIKE
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
stringbeans has a spectacular aura aboutstringbeans has a spectacular aura about
im stringbeans_in_smartjeans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #34 (permalink)  
Old Apr 23, 04
hosehead
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
inkster is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by sNyx™
Still sometimes inkster you should put the bitter on backburn and open your thoughts to things that can acutally improve yourself. Maybe you will shake some of this Alpha-male attitude.
skepticism is a healthy attitude to have with products like this. as mr beans has elaborated upon, the test is designed to make it appear as if something miraculous has happened, giving the product more credibility and increasing the chances of a sale. however, in reality, nothing that amazing has happened. an arbitrary benchmark was achieved by getting the viewer to do something they do naturally without thought. then, they were told to think about how they were doing it, and they raised their benchmark just through concentrating on the task.

the new benchmark appears signifigant, as no one has any prior conceptions of what their reading speed is in a statistical format. so, an increase of even a small amount will lead one to think that there is a Mystical Underlying Process, when it's really just concentration. i believe the term for this is 'selection' bias.' in other words, drawing conclusions from a limited set of data, and discarding other possibilities.

now, there might be somethiing to the books after all, but one shouldn't draw any conclusions on a test that is designed to sell things.

as for being bitter? if being an aware consumer makes me bitter, then so be it.

to the rest, caveat emptor.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:44 PM.


Forum software by vBulletin
Circa 2000 FNK.CA