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Old Jun 11, 04
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Paul Martin not at Regans funreal...mean anything to you?

Right now our country is being repped by former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney...as it turns out Paul Martin was 'too busy' to be in atttendance, yet numerous other world leaders are

do yout hink this reflects on our US relations at all?
Does it affect your opinion of our current leader?

Personally, i think he should have made the effort to come out

we know the americans love pagentry and i think this is a pretty big 'event' for them
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Old Jun 11, 04
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Right now our country is being repped by former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney...as it turns out Paul Martin was 'too busy' to be in atttendance, yet numerous other world leaders are

do yout hink this reflects on our US relations at all?
Does it affect your opinion of our current leader?

Personally, i think he should have made the effort to come out

we know the americans love pagentry and i think this is a pretty big 'event' for them
not at all, mulroney was pm alongside regan, which explains why he would attend his funeral. As far as i know paul martin wasnt even involved in politics at the time of regan's presidency and its unlikely that they even knew each other...i think that the effort to come out would be wasted, the man has a country to run and his currently 2 weeks away from getting creamed in an election so he needs to concentrate on other things.
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Old Jun 11, 04
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its really quite amazing how much ravers know sometimes considering most of them are brainless from so much E!!!!!
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Old Jun 11, 04
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Old Jun 12, 04
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Did any former or current American Presidents attend Mr. Trudeau's funeral? No.

Were we at all suprised as Canadians? No.
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Old Jun 12, 04
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being a neighborly support to one of our most important allies' great leaders funeral should have been on the priority list for martin. but then again. when do canadian prime ministers ever do the right thing?

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Old Jun 12, 04
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He didn't honor Regan? Honor Regan? Excuse me? Are you completely unaware of what Regan did to the American economy? Like most republicans, he raped it in every form he could, and sold more assets to the Japanese then any president before him.

Thanks to "Reagenomics" the country is still feeling the effects.
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Old Jun 12, 04
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Did any former or current American Presidents attend Mr. Trudeau's funeral? No.

Were we at all suprised as Canadians? No.

Very well said! Hear hear!
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Old Jun 12, 04
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Did any former or current American Presidents attend Mr. Trudeau's funeral? No.

Were we at all suprised as Canadians? No.
What she said.
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Old Jun 12, 04
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i thought i saw on the news that the governor general represented canada
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Old Jun 12, 04
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Did any former or current American Presidents attend Mr. Trudeau's funeral? No.

Were we at all suprised as Canadians? No.
Actually,

The USA was in attendance. I remember the article.


Among the dignitaries attending the funeral were Fidel Castro, former United States President Jimmy Carter, Konstantinos Stephanopoulos, President of Greece, Prince Andrew, His Highness Karim Aga Khan, and three surviving former prime ministers of Canada - Brian Mulroney, John Turner and Joe Clark. Prime Minister Jean Chrétien and his wife Aline were there, as was Governor General Adrienne Clarkson and her husband John Ralston Saul. Quebec Premier Lucien Bouchard also attended. There were rows and rows of faces familiar to Canadians, from former and current cabinet ministers to Leonard Cohen, poet and songwriter.
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Old Jun 12, 04
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...George W Bush wasn't there though!
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Old Jun 12, 04
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when do canadian prime ministers ever do the right thing?

bren
when they decide not to take part in the war on Iraq.

and myra: i agree with you

plus: this is probably just me, but i don't see funerals as that big of a deal and i would hate it when i died if there was a big huge funeral and people came out and cried. i would rather have my life be celebrated by a party when i die then a bunch of people wearing black and feeling bad if they laugh or smile because they're supposed to be sad.
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He didn't honor Regan? Honor Regan? Excuse me? Are you completely unaware of what Regan did to the American economy? Like most republicans, he raped it in every form he could, and sold more assets to the Japanese then any president before him.

Thanks to "Reagenomics" the country is still feeling the effects.

he didnt personally sell any assests..the japanese simply invested in manufacturing and distribution networks in america because they were afraid that regan would inact protectionists tariffs against japanese imports and direct investment by foreign based companies allows said companies to avoid assine protectionist policies..besides foreign direct investment is a win win situation for all involved, alot of Canada's economic might is a consequence of FDI into our own country

get your shit straight..sure reganomics was a crock of shit in the short run, and socially irresponsible because he essentially destroyed any chance of unskilled labourers sustaining a middle class lifestyle.(which dosnt really matter especially to you as a NDP support you should relize the people he fucked over where the ones involved in pollution intense industries, essentially his irresponsiblity quickened an inevitable shift to an cleaner "greener" information based economy. Secondly the capital accumulated as a result of reganomics really paid off in the 90's as that shit played a large part in sustaining the longest period of economic growth in history. As capital accumulation combined with technological innovation{ which also resulted from regans fucked up starwars/defense policies. policies that basically subsidized alot of the research and development into advanced technologies which are now an important part of north america's cleaner(relative to the past) knowledge based economy} are the two key factors to long term economic growth.

personally i dont really agree with regan's policies in general, but your understanding of the ramifications of his economic policy is flawed

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Old Jun 12, 04
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Actually,

The USA was in attendance. I remember the article.


Among the dignitaries attending the funeral were Fidel Castro, former United States President Jimmy Carter, Konstantinos Stephanopoulos, President of Greece, Prince Andrew, His Highness Karim Aga Khan, and three surviving former prime ministers of Canada - Brian Mulroney, John Turner and Joe Clark. Prime Minister Jean Chrétien and his wife Aline were there, as was Governor General Adrienne Clarkson and her husband John Ralston Saul. Quebec Premier Lucien Bouchard also attended. There were rows and rows of faces familiar to Canadians, from former and current cabinet ministers to Leonard Cohen, poet and songwriter.

See Bush wasnt there, but Carter was, and guess who was in power in the U.S during Trudeau's last term....same deal with Mulroney and Regan.
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Old Jun 12, 04
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George W. Bush is the 43rd President of the United States. He was sworn into office January 20, 2001. Pierre Elliott Trudeau died September 28, 2000 at the age of 80.
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Old Jun 12, 04
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^^ tou-che!

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Clinton?
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Old Jun 12, 04
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!!che-tou^^
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Old Jun 12, 04
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Old Jun 13, 04
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Clinton?
White House Report, Thursday, September 28, 2000

(Clinton/Kok/Serbia, Cabinet Meeting, Peru/Fujimori) (650)



CLINTON, KOK: SANCTIONS AGAINST SERBIA SHOULD END ONCE DEMOCRACY
RETURNS


NATO economic sanctions against Serbia should be lifted once a
democratically elected government is installed in Belgrade, President
Clinton said September 29 in remarks in a Sepember 28 press
availability in the Rose Garden with Prime Minister Wim Kok of the
Netherlands.
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Old Jun 13, 04
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its not a huge deal to me
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Old Jun 13, 04
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Old Jun 15, 04
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he didnt personally sell any assests..the japanese simply invested in manufacturing and distribution networks in america because they were afraid that regan would inact protectionists tariffs against japanese imports and direct investment by foreign based companies allows said companies to avoid assine protectionist policies..besides foreign direct investment is a win win situation for all involved, alot of Canada's economic might is a consequence of FDI into our own country

get your shit straight..sure reganomics was a crock of shit in the short run, and socially irresponsible because he essentially destroyed any chance of unskilled labourers sustaining a middle class lifestyle.(which dosnt really matter especially to you as a NDP support you should relize the people he fucked over where the ones involved in pollution intense industries, essentially his irresponsiblity quickened an inevitable shift to an cleaner "greener" information based economy. Secondly the capital accumulated as a result of reganomics really paid off in the 90's as that shit played a large part in sustaining the longest period of economic growth in history. As capital accumulation combined with technological innovation{ which also resulted from regans fucked up starwars/defense policies. policies that basically subsidized alot of the research and development into advanced technologies which are now an important part of north america's cleaner(relative to the past) knowledge based economy} are the two key factors to long term economic growth.

personally i dont really agree with regan's policies in general, but your understanding of the ramifications of his economic policy is flawed


I'll be the first to admit, I'm guilty of just making broad general statements based on my opinions such as "All of this is because..." or "it's all terrible because...". But your understanding of reaganomics is less then apt.

The so-called basic ECONOMIC concept of Ronald Reagan was that if you cut taxes you would increase Federal Revenues since economic activity would increase. The increase in economic activity would bring with it increased Federal tax revenues.
In other words the tax cut would be self liquidating and self paying since any lost revenues for the moment would almost immediately be made up by increased revenues in the future. It didn't cost anything, therefore, to lower taxes and the economy would be stimulated to new heights.
The new tax revenues would then permit the Federal government to increase defense spending from the revenue windfall.
It was a painless way to stimulate the economy, increase defense (and other) spending and it was all without REVENUE costs to the Federal Government.
Lower taxes without pain or costs were the ultimate Economic Utopia. I think it is fair to say that this was one of the key platforms which got Ronald Reagan twice elected as President.
He never stopped pounding away at his theory in each and every speech he gave and it became the cornerstone of Reagan domestic policy.

The results ?

Ronald Reagan left the United States with a national debt of $3.5 Trillion dollars. When Reagan took office it was only 1$ Trillion ( meaning that he tripled the entire debt that was accumulated from the revolutionairy war, the spanish american war, civil war, world war 1 , world war 2 , korean war , and the vietnam war.
It took Reaganomics only 8 years to triple the national debt.
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