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Jun 15, 04
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Yeah really.. If 6-2 was in place, a lot of us of legal age would probably much rather go to a club. 
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You bring in big talent and know how to throw a show, you bring out new people and introduce a lot of people to the scene, and to top it off have thrown some pretty amazing parties. I've noticed an influx of new people lately, not really sure why it's happening, or maybe it's just myself becoming more aware of my surroundings, but these people are shaping and molding the 'scene'. Could this be a contribution to the current state of things? *please note: i'm not slagging twisted or newbies, this is just a personal observation.
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6-2....reminds me of a school dance and the beggining of a rave put together hahaha
aw well, i think that the pill testing sites would be dope to see but to be placed somewere where the line wont strech into the room and shit haha imagine all the sober people waiting to get their pills tested, and the first aid sould be a must lol, and have 4 security guards looking all professional becuase the cops will see that this party is nicely organized and the guys are "Not to fuck with". I donno im just giving my 2 cents on the situation... the scene isnt dead, the underground scene is just "sleeping" cuase turn outs to the parties are still in good numbers... even for the beggining hours (eg groove 2, and other countless underground raves that have been busted within the past 2-3 months).
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My reply to your question may be a bit lengthy as several factors are involved so I will warn you in advance! 1.) For a period of time last year, there was a lull in the amount of parties being held... Rhythm Nation was cancelled, Summerlove was cancelled even Simple was cancelled. Subsequently, every party after that did VERY well - IE: our New Years show was one of the most successful to date! ZEN did okay... KISS was awesome, Twisted 2004 was another off the hook party and Grand Finale (despite the counterfeit BS), was also amazing. -- The combination of these parties, especially Twisted 2004 and Grand Finale, brought a TON of old skoolers (wanting to send off plaza for one last time) and nu-skoolers (wondering what all the commotion is about) to these shows and generated interest in a lot of new peeps. -- This led to a TON of kids wanting more. 2.) I remember years ago, in December 2001... The Plaza of Nations was shut down for a period of 10 months. -- This was due to the repeated noise by-law violations that came from shows previous at the Plaza so the cities answer was to just shut the venue down. (That is why we had noise restrictions at that venue right to the very last show.) Azim and Salim sat in front of the Vancouver City council and collectively were the reason why the Plaza of Nations was once again allowed as a venue. How? Azim presented a simple business case to them -- If the city doesn't re-open the Plaza of Nations as a venue, other promoters in the city are going to throw underground parties -- Some of these will be safe and others will not be and won't even have first aid. This wasn't a threat, more so to say lets work on the sound/by-law issue rather than shutting the venue down and having all of these illegal underground and un-safe parties pop up. 3.) Now that I have mentioned point # 1 and point #2, you can understand why the amount of underground parties are increasing and why they are so well attended. Plaza of Nations is done and not a lot of legal venues are around/authorized by the city yet... Compound that with what is a TON of new kids interested in the scene again or for the first time, not to mention that smaller shows have a great vibe to them, and you have an increase in the amount of underground shows that happen. Anyway... I hope that answered your question. If you have any more, let me know! Cheers.
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When you compare the amount of effort to the obvious benefits, it's really not much effort at all. Sometimes a responsible promoter can be the difference between a shutdown, and the cops looking the other way. (That is, if you have all your other bases covered)
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John said in another thread that the good thing about limits to using certain venues is so that less and less people have the idea that parties are always going to go off. This is never guaranteed. I'm sure the fire marshall could EASILY shut down a plaza show if they decided on it. Also, I don't really like the idea of terming plaza parties as 'safe' versus 'underground' parties. All of the fatal overdoses that have happened in the last few years have ALL been at these 'legal' 'safe' parties. Keep in mind that as well, a few years ago someone managed to get a knife past security and kill themselves. Kraig, I think you sum the points up nicely. I'm no expert on this matter, really.
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Jun 15, 04
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myra is THE expert. she was raving at her desk today. i have the email to prove it.
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Yes, every event DA has we have a certified first aid attendent. On a side note, not one of DA's events have been shut down.
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^^ this is true
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I'd probably hit up a 6-2 party... If theres dope music bein thrown down, and people ravin, im there... however, it would be a bit different, and im assuming the vibe would be a bit different...
with this in mind, it would be cool to find new venues that arent going to be shut down because of noise complaints... i figure that is the main problem... are outdoors a sollution? maybe... but i think Richard is on to something, we can all do our part to make raves go on longer, and prevent them from being axed early in the night, by staying indoors at parties to start. Lets see who can find the best venue, i kno i've been lookin around, let our promoters know and wake up this "sleeping" scene. P.S. I have certified standard first aid, and CPR level C if anyone needs a first aid person at a party...
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This is all deja vu for me. A few parties get shut down , and people are getting panties in a twist. I have been astounded at the amount of parties that are thrown here, legal and illegal alike. Vancouver ravers are spoiled. Welcome to the state of "the scene" in almost every other city in western Canada.
Things change , deal with it.
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Jun 15, 04
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the occasional 6-2 i'd definately go to if it's a unique venue and/or some imported headliners :)
And to some people commenting on why do you need security at an illegal party and stuff...there's a difference between somethign that's illegal according to the city, and somethign that's unsafe for everyone. I'd rather see an underground party have some sort of good organization, shows that it'll stand a chance of lasting all night.
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go and give her some plur karma now.
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