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Old Sep 16, 04
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Eco-Terrorism

So what do you think about tagging SUV's with "Planet Killer" bumper-stickers, burning down sawmills, vandalizing industrial equipment and spiking trees? Does it do anything, and if so, does the end justify the means?

The FBI has placed the Earth Liberation Front (who claim to be non-violent) on "the most dangerous terror organizations" list. Another stupid American bureaucratic move or legitimate concern?
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Old Sep 16, 04
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Killing/ maiming people is always wrong. Even if its for a good cause. If you want to accomplish genuinely 'good' ends, you have to use good means. Otherwise what grows from your rotten seed will be a corrupted tree.
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Old Sep 16, 04
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So what do you think about tagging SUV's with "Planet Killer" bumper-stickers, burning down sawmills, vandalizing industrial equipment and spiking trees? Does it do anything, and if so, does the end justify the means?

The FBI has placed the Earth Liberation Front (who claim to be non-violent) on "the most dangerous terror organizations" list. Another stupid American bureaucratic move or legitimate concern?
i think the people who do that are fucking morons, and in the case of spiking trees and burning down sawmills they should be locked up..a spiked tree can kill someone who is just trying to do his job so he can make money to feed himself and his family. i guess those eco-losers who are on welfare or living off their parents dont realize that.

besides people like that are lumped together with more legitamate environmentalists and make them look like shit.
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Old Sep 16, 04
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yea i dont agree with that shit at all. Most, if not all logging companies operating in Canada have some sort of environmental sustainability plan in place, which affects virtually every aspect of their business. Having been a treeplanter for the last 2 years, i've had the opportunity to see exactly how the forestry industry works and how dozens of individual logging companies (large and small) operate. Many of the forestry companies that I was contracted to work for had very detailed logging and reforestation plans, some of which spanned over 350 years! Some things that a lot of logging companies are doing to lessen the environmental impact in BC include leaving large residual or wildlife patches in clearcuts, essentially areas inside the logged area which were not touched to provide shelter for wildlife, etc. selective logging (leaving many large trees still standing in the area), better reforestation specifications. Each company has different specifications on how they want their trees planted. for example, most companies in BC want all planted trees to be microsited (planted next to an obstacle such as stump, log, or rock, or put in a high spot) with mixed species (usually 60% spruce 30% pine, 10% fir) and have every tree planted a certain distance from the last (i.e 2.8 meters). On the coast it goes even further and its not uncommon that individual seedlings have to be fertilized and caged to protect them. Logging companies are also required by law to make sure these seedlings are planted and grow, and as such they monitor them throughout their life and make sure they stay healthy. It is also not uncommon that more (sometimes twice as many) trees are planted than cut down in any given area. So overall, i'd say logging in Canada isn't really as bad as it seems, plus it keeps me employed. On another note I've planted close to 200,000 trees all over BC and Alberta.
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Old Sep 16, 04
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choke on an onion you pnshce
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Old Sep 16, 04
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Eco-Terrorism isn't right as it's still a form of Terrorism. If you attack innocent people you are no better than the people that took down the Trade Centre. I have lots of friends that are Loggers and they are only doing their Job to make some money and live. Not just to destroy the Environment. There is the Forest Practice Code of B.C. which all of them abide to so as they minimize Environmental Damage as much as possible.
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