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Sep 18, 04
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Retire Naslund's 19?
So the Canucks don't play this year, Naslund retires (hypothetical).
Do the Canucks retire Naslund's #19? I say yes. Naslund is the most talented Canuck of all time, made us all forget about Bure, led us in a really Westcoast way, and captured the hearts of all Canuck fans. He has been GOD in this city for the last 5 years at least. 
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Sep 18, 04
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He hasn't done some of the great things that peeps like Smyl and Linden have done. Both have captained the canucks to the finals. May not have won but an impressive feat, especially considering the canuck teams they had. More so the 82 team the Steamer took to the finals. We have yet to see the day the canucks have made it the Western Conference Semi-Finals. I think he would have to play a few more years and take the team far into the playoff's. He has proved his worth though and if he officially is retiring from the NHL FOR GOOD than yea perhaps his number should be retired. It probably will if that happens.
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Sep 18, 04
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lol. no way he was the most talented.
pavel bure by far was a pure offensive talent. who took about all of half a season to become a star. naslund's a class act, which some can say bure wasn't, but the fact remains bure was so much better than naslund. unless you think gino odjick is as good as bertuzzi. bure never had a good center passing him the puck.
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Sep 18, 04
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Naslund is one of the greatest players of our day without a doubt but there are questions to if he has what it takes to be an ultimate Canuck when you think ultimate Canucks you think Smyl and Linden when it comes to Linden the only reason he's jersey isn't in the rafters already is that he's still playing Naslund is great but I don't think he's rafters great but without a doubt he's hall of fame great
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Sep 18, 04
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Sep 19, 04
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I agree with you all to a certain extent, but it's pretty tough to compare Naz and Bure. Bure was explosive, in your face, and a huge showboat. Naslund is a sublime leader, tempered team-player, and one of the best snipers in the league. He's been an institution in this city, arguably garnishing the same amount of respect as Linden from fans.
To me, Bure was like a one night stand; the city met him, we fell immediately in love, he was great, then he left. Naslund is that trophy that sticks around.
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Sep 19, 04
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it's amazing how quickly people forget.
pavel bure wasn't a leader in a linden sense, but he had character, ie: elbow to shane churla's head after gettin worked all game. pavel wasn't a wussy ass pushover. this man had a 30 goal rookie season, scored two 60 goal seasons, and one 50 goal season for us, helped bring us to the stanley cup final, and you can honestly call him a 1 night stand? it's not his damn fault he wanted to leave when we went into rebuilding mode. one last thing, ya know when they say "when the russian rocket had the puck, the whole pacific coliseum were on the edge of their seats" that is not an exaggeration, if anything most were standing. i don't know if you ever saw him play, but i had the luck too, and i shit you not, to this day it sends chills down my spine.
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Sep 19, 04
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^ not a chance buddy. Maybe in his prime days when he was linemates with pat lafountain, but naslund has been a better player overall for the canucks than mogilny.
the thing i don't like about bure was he was a great scorer, but as a play maker i think naslund is overall a better fit.
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Sep 19, 04
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lend it to me winson i also agree with what these people are say, naslunds a great player, but he hasn't really accomplished alot in terms of leading vancouver far into the playoffs, we still havn't got past the semi's....he has kept us in it, but he has never got us passed it.
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Sep 20, 04
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Sep 20, 04
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By the way you can thank Messier for the loss of Linden's captaincy not Naslund, and when Linden came back, and was offered captaincy he chose not to take it. Though I am sure deep down he prob wanted it. I don't see what bad choice there is for having Naslund as Captain. This new era of the canucks was Naslund's team not Lindens
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Sep 20, 04
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Sep 20, 04
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Dude the 90's had many and i mean many 50 goal scorer's. To get be able to get 48 goals like naslund did is nothing short of superb in today's NHL.
Notice how many scored 50 goals this year. A BIG FAT 0 players. Notice how many people made 100 points this year another BIG FAT 0!! Face it in today's NHL the scoring is way harder to come by. The 90's even in 94 was still the high scoring the game it isn't today. What is ur definetion of skill. Goal scoring thats not skills that just being a sniper. Skills are overall talent. Scoring, passing points, leadership the whole shibang. Scoring is just but one skill out of the whole bunch. Overall i think Naslund is a better player. Maybe not quite the sniper but overall a superb player
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Sep 20, 04
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i think we've already gone over the fact that naslund is an overall better player. why are you arguing this point? mogilny had more skill. i think most people rate skill by goal scoring and passing. things you do with the puck. leadership is not really defined as skill. if that was the case stan smyl or trevor linden would be considered the most skilled canuck. Last edited by timmy!; Sep 20, 04 at 12:33 PM.
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Sep 20, 04
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Sep 20, 04
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BUT. To say Bure was "so much better" than Naslund.. we're talking about a guy who has more goals than any other player in the national hockey league over the last 4 years. Yeah he never scored 60... Do you think Pavel would be potting 60 if he were playing and in his prime right now? The three top goal scorers in the league finish with low 40s last year. Naslund and Bure are comperable offensive talents.. his approach is more clinical but I've seen him pull out some pretty amazing moves as well when the situation calls for it. Pick Bure if you have to, but watch you don't overdo it. Yeah, without Pavel we don't win game 7 against Calgary. Then again, if Kirk McLean is a couple of inches shorter, Robert Reichel bags the game winner and the 94 Canucks are no different than the Canucks of any other year. Bure was key to their run, but he didn't build a dynasty. That would be the only justification for saying he's "So much better". Cuz Naslund hasn't done that either :-/
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Sep 20, 04
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As far as offensive skill, yes he is a force to be reckoned with, but to get your jersey hung in the rafters, they also look at your off-ice composure and leadership. Naslund is one of the most respectful players in the league, he is a true sportsman. He lacks leadership though. If it wasn't for Linden, that team would have no one at the head of the pack.
This may sound strange, but Bertuzzi showed more leadership than Naslund when he went after Moore. In the wrong way, yeah, but leadership none the less.
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Sep 21, 04
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Look at team canada's roster for this years world cup almost all of them have individual leadership talents. but overall regardless of goal scoring or passing i still say Naslund is a better player than mogilny including skill. Hemi is right you think bure or mogilny would be scoring 60 goal seasons or 50 goal and 100 point seasons. i think bure couild get 50 goals but i don't think he would get 100 points in todays nhl
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Sep 21, 04
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