Multi-culturalism and death of the West

[mapleleaf4ever]

^ Crusades... Three of them just in case those coloured folks just didn't get it. /sarcasm

heh Who is this goof?

[sidekick]

Originally Posted by thumper

20 percent of all black men born from 1965 through 1969 had served time in prison by the time they reached their early 30s. By comparison, less than 3 percent of white males born in the same time period had been in prison.

hmm...that couldn't be due to the fact that we push harder sentences on those of colour and different race than those that are white, could it?

statistics are full of variables. you just have your head too far up your own ass that you can't see the other factors that need to be taken into place.

[sidekick]

Originally Posted by thumper

This argument has been pummelled so many times into oblivion it's not even funny. The pilgrims never sought to integrate themselves into Native society. They didn't go about painting their faces, trying to get inducted into the various tribes, or learn how to communicate with smoke signals. In fact, they did their own thing. Natives used grace the land ever so nomadically with their presence, so I wouldn't call that the strongest land claim (look at me, I once hunted across that field!). The pilgrims didn't force themselves into native tribes and go, Let's make this motherfucker multi-cultural already. Non-whites on the other hand do insist on making white societies multi-cultural, because if they don't get a piece of the pie, they cry racism.

sigh.

it's like every time you try to make a point, you just come across dumber. it really is amazing.

[mapleleaf4ever]

It's kind of like watching Lemmings go gleefully running to their doom isn't it Jake? :)

[thumper]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

and how many times has someone of white colour killed someone of another ethnicity?

you're just using one specific instance to generalize a whole group of people.

you just don't get it.

Would you say 'tourante' or gang-rape is a vestige of Canadian culture? Are you eager to learn more about? I for one could do without. You have to look at the context. I think Western civilization with its libertarian non-muslim values are worth preserving. I don't deny racism exists, and it would be naive to do so. But I know that racism will always be a factor, and the violence that follows, in multi-ethnic, multi-cultural societies. And that some cultures are just way too bizzare or repugnant for me to except.

To each his own.

[wundergirl]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

sigh.

it's like every time you try to make a point, you just come across dumber. it really is amazing.

Einstein:
Genius has its limits, stupidity knows no bounds.

[sidekick]

Originally Posted by mapleleaf4ever

It's kind of like watching Lemmings go gleefully running to their doom isn't it Jake? :)

it's just really stunning that he keeps saying the same stuff over and over again.

"look at these few times when a muslim guy killed this white dude. that means ALL muslim guys kill white dudes."

also...robyn, noted something interesting about all his stats...they're all about MEN. so maybe the problem isn't with races, it's with men.

all your examples are men committing crimes, and there are more men in jail than women. under your extremely skewed logic that means that men are bad.

[sidekick]

Originally Posted by thumper

I don't deny racism exists, and it would be naive to do so. But I know that racism will always be a factor, and the violence that follows, in multi-ethnic, multi-cultural societies.

only if people like you continue to be born.

And that some cultures are just way too bizzare or repugnant for me to except.

i rest my case.

[thumper]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

it's just really stunning that he keeps saying the same stuff over and over again.

"look at these few times when a muslim guy killed this white dude. that means ALL muslim guys kill white dudes."

also...robyn, noted something interesting about all his stats...they're all about MEN. so maybe the problem isn't with races, it's with men.

all your examples are men committing crimes, and there are more men in jail than women. under your extremely skewed logic that means that men are bad.

So in fact you don't think the Muslim Party of Britain is a bad thing? It's plain to see that when you have a large community of foreigners, they won't be content to sit on the sidelines forever. Rather, they will seek their own leadership or try to mold society in their image.

[sidekick]

^you forgot to counter my argument about the men thing.

or wait, is that because you can't?

[thumper]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

only if people like you continue to be born.



i rest my case.

'Rainbow Socieites'


South Africa: Rape capital of the world

http://www.spearhead.com/0002-jm.html

Yugoslavia: Srebenica massacre, 8000 left dead.

Denmark: 5 percent of the population consumes 40 percent of the welfare. Muslim community imposes self-isolation and Muslims make up over half the rapists in the country with practically all victims non-muslims

Detroit: well that really speaks for itself doesn't it. Most murderous US city and the yearly festivities of Devil's Night where they burn a section of the city down once a year. And did I mention it's mostly black? Google the words "white flight + detroit" and tell me it doesn't look like Belgrade.

and so on and so forth. You're willing to look past how certain ethnic groups are hugely overrepresented in crime and who seek to change society in their own image, all because you want to appear more 'tolerant'?

Let's see how long that lasts.

[thumper]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

^you forgot to counter my argument about the men thing.

or wait, is that because you can't?

Fine, 5 percent muslims right? half of them men. 2.5 percent of all muslim men are responsible for over half the rapes in Denmark. Well now that I look at it that way, it looks much better!

[miss.myra]

Yeah, White Canadians on the west coast have so much culture worth salvaging.


ha! we live in a nation 99.9% composed of immigrants anyways, immigration made this country...ya dig?

[thumper]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

^you forgot to counter my argument about the men thing.

or wait, is that because you can't?

Fine, 5 percent muslims right? half of them men. 2.5 percent of all muslim men are responsible for over half the rapes in Denmark. Well now that I look at it that way, it looks much better!

[thumper]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

^you forgot to counter my argument about the men thing.

or wait, is that because you can't?

Fine, 5 percent muslims right? half of them men. 2.5 percent of all muslim men are responsible for over half the rapes in Denmark. Well now that I look at it that way, it looks much better!

[sidekick]

sigh, and yet he still doesn't counter any of the previous arguments.

your form of arguing is tiring, you just post links to people getting killed by other people. congratulations, you've discovered that people murder people.

as much as i'd like to continue this mindnumbing argument, it's going around in circles because you won't actually argue anything.

i'm going to study now.

[wundergirl]

thumper you don't want conversation, you just want an opportunity to spew hate.



way to go pal. thanks for sharing.
i'm out

[robyn]

Originally Posted by thumper

Fine, 5 percent muslims right? half of them men. 2.5 percent of all muslim men are responsible for over half the rapes in Denmark. Well now that I look at it that way, it looks much better!

So who was responsible for the other half?

[thumper]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

sigh, and yet he still doesn't counter any of the previous arguments.

your form of arguing is tiring, you just post links to people getting killed by other people. congratulations, you've discovered that people murder people.

as much as i'd like to continue this mindnumbing argument, it's going around in circles because you won't actually argue anything.

i'm going to study now.

You said something along the lines of 'other factors' accounting for the over-representation; which really says a lot. And I've addressed everything you said. Rather, like the little lap dog of public education that you are, when someone tells you that not all ethnic groups/races are the same, and the idea cannot be taken as axiomatic, nor can they function heathily in the same society your Pavlovian Hate response kicks in and everything becomes a blurr. To recap:

Muslims and Blacks are over-respresented in crime: Racism!!!

Non-whites can't make it on their own and flock to white epicenters: Racism!!!

The Muslim Party of Britain seeks to change the UK into a Islamic State and indigenous population by and large do not want this: Racism!!!

Dude, lemme just say the various 'isms' don't have the teeth they used to. I'm giving you solid statistics and historical precendent (yugoslavia, south africa) and the only think you bring to the table is, "tolerance." ya... apathy is what makes this country great.


Anyway. I hope everyone gets informed about the situation in Canada and the West at large. If we don't act soon, bye bye Western Civilization.

payce.

[thumper]

Originally Posted by robyn

So who was responsible for the other half?

Well, the other 95 percent were non-muslim, but if you do the math, the Muslims are clearly over-represented.

[robyn]

Originally Posted by thumper

Well, the other 95 percent were non-muslim, but if you do the math, the Muslims are clearly over-represented.

But can you really do accurate math on something that goes unreported nearly 90% of the time?

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by wundergirl

thumper you don't want conversation, you just want an opportunity to spew hate.

HE'S BEEN DYING TO COPY AND PASTE ALL THOSE STATISTICS AND LINKS FOR LIKE, WEEKS!@#$


"hoo boy, is this ever going to piss off the internet!"

[thumper]

Originally Posted by wundergirl

North America has a high rate of immigration for reasons that you obviously cannot begin to comprehend.

Humanitarian issues aside, the whole non-white world kinda sucks you gotta admit. Yes, you're doing your part by sponsoring those kids. But you have to remember that Canada is a country of only 30 million or so. China alone is 1.3 billion and I'm sure you alone have a better standard of living than at least 85 percent of them. Staggering, I know. But like I said, we just can't take these third world immigrants on whole sale and not expect any detriment to ourselves. I mean do you honestly believe that with a minority white population that quality of life can be sustained? Bombed out Detroit (Belgrade?) makes me think otherwise.

And as for immigrants being allowed in, before 1965 they all hailed from the traditional countries. If we need more people to settle the prairies (which we don't) why not draw from the energetic Europeans? A few of my British friends would love to come to Canada, but as it stands, our immigration policy is allocated for 'diversity' first, and common sense second. 85 percent is dedicated to non-white Third world people to spice things up. Would it not make a whole lot more sense to take in people who already spoke English, have a similar culture, and who country can match ours for economic development?

Now what we have is burgeoning minority groups that politicians shamelessly pander to. Recently Bush had the idea of giving 10+ million illegal mexican aliens Amnesty, and the Mexican-American lobbyists applauded him on his 'humanitarianism.' So basically minority lobby groups not only have the power to influence, but in some cases outright hijack the government and circumvent the will of the majority. Just look who drags the US into the middle east all the time (pro-israeli lobby). Personally, I think we should elect a nationalist government who puts the majority first, and doesn't pander to ethnic voting blocs. I mean it seems that every non-western country has a nationalist government, why can't we?

Payce.

[thumper]

Originally Posted by robyn

But can you really do accurate math on something that goes unreported nearly 90% of the time?

uhh. don't you think you're giving them tremendous benefit of the doubt because they aren't white?

[wundergirl]

humanitarian issues "aside?" you think canada has the immigration policies is has to "spice things up?" again, you don't get it dude. not at all.

edit: we have to accept some global responsibility. your british friends don't get first pick because they dont NEED it. if you were in another country suffering circumstanes that were beyond any fault or control of your own you would have a different opinion. you're perspective is skewed by privelege and circumstanceand you know it.