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Old Oct 13, 04
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How can people even start to compare Bin Ladden and Hittler? While Bin Ladden is responsible for mass murder he's not even close to being responsible for attempted genocide. Lets not forget that Bin Ladden was Americans go to guy in Afghanistan for many years and that the whole Al Queda network was built with CIA dollars. What the Americans are being victimized by now the Russians suffered through first.
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Old Oct 13, 04
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Old Oct 13, 04
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Doom isn't quite evil enough for first spot yet... give him a genocide or two, and he'll be up their.

People of dutch anscetry, your first, TOODLES!
doom are you drunk? why are you making such eye-breaking horrible misspellings...
don't make me give you good karma.
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Old Oct 13, 04
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i cannot pick just one, becasue two really stick out in my brain. the two horrible humans that i am thinking about are those two buggers from the movie gummo. those little mother fuckers go around KILLING innocent kittens and they even keep shooting a dead cat at the end..even though it's already dead :(
OMFG that makes me want to cry....
why would anyone in their right mind hurt cats? cats are the most *imo* beautiful creatures in the world, how could anyone do anything to hurt them. DON'T GIVE ME THE NAME OF THAT MOVIE*again cuz i forgot it*! or I'll be forced to watch it and cry.
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Old Oct 13, 04
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that is a very selfish statement.
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Old Oct 13, 04
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Meth and Crack dealers.
Hitler wasn't a meth dealer, he only used it to fuel his army, and is responsible for developing the cheapo efficient cooking technique that blows up so many meth labs today.
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Old Oct 13, 04
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i cannot pick just one, becasue two really stick out in my brain. the two horrible humans that i am thinking about are those two buggers from the movie gummo. those little mother fuckers go around KILLING innocent kittens and they even keep shooting a dead cat at the end..even though it's already dead :(
Uhm... so you are saying the two worst people in the world are fictional characters??

I mean I'm with ya, killing cats is pretty horrible.... but its just a freakin movie!!!

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Old Oct 13, 04
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How can people even start to compare Bin Ladden and Hittler? While Bin Ladden is responsible for mass murder he's not even close to being responsible for attempted genocide.

Genocide is defined as the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group.

Bin Laden and his pals in Al Qaeda and other sympathetic organizations, no matter how 'justified' their actions may seem to some are attempting genocide EVERY time they attack/kill people. Why? Because they've waged war on Americans specifically (and the Western World as a whole), Jews, Christians, etc. etc. Attacks are carefully planned, and the message is very very clear every time they release a statement that they are out to get these specific groups.

Yeaaaah, I'd call it genocide.
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Old Oct 13, 04
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you people and ur hitlers, most of these people have reasons why they ve done what they ve done and not just hatred, there are people on this earth that kill people cause it gives them a rush, or they do it just to see if they can get away with it thats bad.
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Old Oct 13, 04
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everyone here must listen to system of a down...


enjoy.
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Old Oct 13, 04
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that is a very selfish statement.
I just gave you good karma!!! Take a joke ok!
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Old Oct 13, 04
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lol i know its a joke, i was just not in a very joking mood after reading 40+ posts about genocide/murder/drugs, and evil tyrants...
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Old Oct 13, 04
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yeah sorry i skiped that... im in a smart alic mood :P
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s'all good :)
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s'all good :) check your karma.
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Old Oct 13, 04
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didnt do much... oh well DANX!
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Old Oct 13, 04
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Being pregnant and trying these drugs for the first time for whatever reason and subjecting your unborn child to the agony of withdrawl upon birth.
Ok, how about the mother fucker who'd sell crack to a pregnant woman. COME ON.
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Old Oct 13, 04
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Selling crack to a pregnant woman is one thing.

Having her light it up KNOWING she is pregnant is a conscious decision that she makes. So that is why she is worse than the dealer.
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how about dealers convincing kids to try it, offering it for free, so they get them hooked and get more customers?
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Old Oct 13, 04
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Don't you people know about the rule.. when you mention Hitler in a thread, the thread is over?

This thread should have been over before it started.

As it is, I don't think some people are giving Dubya enough credit. He's an evil fucker as well as being stupid. However the real credit has to go to the people behind the scenes (Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz)... these are the people controlling George's puppet strings.
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Old Oct 14, 04
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Genocide is defined as the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group.

Bin Laden and his pals in Al Qaeda and other sympathetic organizations, no matter how 'justified' their actions may seem to some are attempting genocide EVERY time they attack/kill people. Why? Because they've waged war on Americans specifically (and the Western World as a whole), Jews, Christians, etc. etc. Attacks are carefully planned, and the message is very very clear every time they release a statement that they are out to get these specific groups.

Yeaaaah, I'd call it genocide.
Like all terrorists Bin Ladden uses violence to try and intimidate people into doing as he wishes. He's a terrorist and nothing more. While the attacks on 9/11 were spectacular and shocked the whole world that was the point not maximum casualties. If he just wanted to kill people he could have set off a bomb at a high school football game with out 1/100 of the effort or planning that went into highjacking jumbo jets.

Come on if you want to start putting Bin Ladden in the same class as Hitler than a definite case could be made for Bush being right there as well.
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Old Oct 14, 04
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You could classify bush AS such.


However, the intentions of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda are clear. They have declared a holy war on the united states and have stated very clearly, and I quote " in which it declared the duty of every Muslim to kill Americans, civilian or military, wherever possible. "

http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm


I understand it may be broad, but this DOES fit the dictionary definition of WHAT genocide is to a T.

Same could be argued for Bush indicating he is going to 'hunt down terrorists wherever they are and get them', etc. Though I don't believe his example is as textbook as Al Qaeda's.
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Old Oct 14, 04
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whoever started slavery of the african americans into the new world....that shit lasted a long time whereas the holocaust at least some of them were put out of there miseries right and killed immediately????
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Old Oct 14, 04
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You could classify bush AS such.


However, the intentions of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda are clear. They have declared a holy war on the united states and have stated very clearly, and I quote " in which it declared the duty of every Muslim to kill Americans, civilian or military, wherever possible. "

http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm


I understand it may be broad, but this DOES fit the dictionary definition of WHAT genocide is to a T.

Same could be argued for Bush indicating he is going to 'hunt down terrorists wherever they are and get them', etc. Though I don't believe his example is as textbook as Al Qaeda's.
The whole point though is that terrorists don't manipulate people or governments just through violence. They use phycological tactics as well, in this case his stated goals are just that. Also he makes this clear with the targets he chooses. With the level of planning and sophistication involved with the attacks on 9/11 he could have killed a lot more people but preferred to attack symbols of American power instead. As an example he could have killed more people truck bombing a high school football game, or for that matter multiple games at the same time. There would be zero security and a few thousand people at each game so with a similar amount of planning it would be reasonable to expect casualties upwards of 10,000. Also if he just wanted to kill more people why not wait till mid day when the twin towers were full of people?

My point is that Bin Ladden is trying to make a political statement and does not have the means to commit genocide. He has among other things called for the U.S. to end it's proxy war with Palestine and withdraw it's forces from Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm not trying to say that what he's doing is right or that he's not a horrible person for the committing such terrible crimes just that he's not responsible for committing genocide.
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