Any one Get Xwindows running in MsWindows

[Crazy Dave]

I've seen comercal Apps that do this,,, but that was like 10-15 years ago. Has any one come across any Xwindow servers that run inside Windows. I'm looking for some thing that's native aplication not some BS posix hack where I have to install some *nix mini files system

[ebbomega]

http://www.cygwin.com/

[Crazy Dave]

Yea,,, that's the exact thing I said I did not want to bother with. It's has nothing to do with a native Win32 app running a Xwindows server. (yea I know you can compile Freex86 in it to run)

way to grow dave!

[mux]

*shrug*. I've only really tried two; Cygwin and some "hummingbird" thing back in about 1998.

Maybe if you explained what exactly you're trying to do? I think Cygwin has a native-running Xserver built into it... if you're just trying to run an application on a unix host with the DISPLAY variable pointed at your Windows machine, it should do the job. If you're trying to do something fancier, let me know and I'll see if I can help... I don't necessarily know the Windows side all that well, but me and unix get along real well.

[Crazy Dave]

Heck if I was going to use Cygwin/Xwin I might as well just bring the other computer over to my desk or use VNC. It's about the same level of an integrated environment.

Also I have issue with needing to set up drivers in what basically is an app. I don't mind fucking about with drivers in a full OS, but really I thought it was joke doing it even if I already got my accelerated video drivers working in Windows [sic]

I want my Q-Desk back! Win-App(win16), Q-app, Dos and Xwindows. All in 1meg with postscript screen fonts.


Oh yea what I want to do... I want to run software on one computer and have it show up like an other app on the screen on this side... Just want Xwindows was made for. I don't want separate 2 working environments(screens). I know there was some work to get the Xwindow apps on the same screen as the windows apps, and have some form of clipboard working between them, but this never seamed to work.

[ebbomega]

Hein. I've never used Cygwin myself, I just know it's been hailed by a lot of *NIX geeks out there.

I have no Windoze system, therefore I have no need for such a piece of software.

[b0ld]

try vmware?

[Crazy Dave]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Hein. I've never used Cygwin myself, I just know it's been hailed by a lot of *NIX geeks out there.

I have no Windoze system, therefore I have no need for such a piece of software.

I know Dave,,, but as I said before some of us do real work with our computers.


"b0ld"
"vmware" as good as it is for what it does... it does not nearly do what I need/want. If I am bitching about setting up two set of video drivers with Cyqwin, VMWare is totally out of the question,,, I'm looking to an app run on one computer and have it show up on the screen of an other, with out any clue to where it's running. With VMWARE It would be worse then running two computers because of the slow down of two full OS's bloating a system down.
I want the Xwindows App to show up as a window, on screen beside the MSWindows apps I'm running

All this VMWare, Cygwin show the apps of Windows and Xwindows in two different screens. The work environment is not connected at all. Not unlike the days of running two DOS apps, and ALT-TABing between them.

Basically all I want is a native Xwindows server that works inside MSWindows work environment.

[mux]

Ok, I've mostly only done that UNIX=>UNIX, but back in the day, I remember running xterms off of AIX servers on a Windows Xserver. You've got me curious, so just a sec... I've got a fresh install of WinXP on my desktop, so let me test something with cygwin...

Ok, it works, just like you want it to. Here's the steps.

1.) get cygwin from cygwin.com. do the internet install.
2.) when you get to the "pick packages" stage, make sure you add the "xorg-xserver" package, in the X11 tree. Also make sure you install 'openssh' from the Net tree.
3.) start cygwin from the desktop icon. a console will open.
4.) 'startx'
5.) in the xterm that starts up, type 'xhost +<ip of the unix host>'
6.) ssh to the unix host
7.) type 'export DISPLAY=<ip of the windows host>:0'
8.) type 'xterm' or whatever you want to run... it should work. On my machine, following these steps results in three open text windows; the Cygwin console, an xterm@localhost, and an xterm@remotehost, all with the usual Windows window decorations.

It would be easy to do this all in one step, making a batchfile to start cygwin and startx, then calling ssh as 'ssh <ip of host> "DISPLAY=<ip of windows>:0 xterm" '.

Privmsg me if you can't get it going.

Man, I must be relaxed from the holidays.. that's two tech support calls I've fielded today, and I usually flatly refuse to do tech support. :)

[Crazy Dave]

But do you get a seamless desktop between the Xapps, and MSapps?

[mux]

Yes. One single desktop.

In fact, I didn't see an obvious way to load up more than one desktop... the xserver is definitely using Windows as the window manager. Probably it'd be different if I installed a window manager.. dunno.

[Crazy Dave]

cool... sound like they final got it working... shit time to posix back on this install. Last time I used it the help files gave you two ways of running things. One was an Xfree86 server, not unlike running the service from say a Bash shell, and then run apps from it. The other was windows apps, that could not comple or run for the longest time.