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Old Jan 06, 05
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^name the price, name your work...
1500, University student. That's with a university discount too, so it's a few hundred dollars cheaper.
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Old Jan 06, 05
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but when it comes down to it, it's all about getting the job done at the lowest cost.

not always. sometimes its about stabilty, convenience and ease of use. it's the difference between driving a high end card and a low end car. either way you'll get where you need to go, it's just a matter of how fast and how much you enjoy the drive. i say if you can afford a mac and justify the cost, go for it (i can't).
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Don't most recording companies, design companies, or anything related to those use Macs? I've read students at Berklee College in the US are required to have a Powerbook because using Macs in school "will prepare them for the real world." Also, there's another all girls private school wher every student is required to have an iPod.

Macs do cost more than most PC's, but there are iMacs and iBooks which are more conveniently priced than the Powermacs/books. Aren't Macs at a higher price not in spite of, but because of designers/artists using it for their work?

Was just wondering.
Meh,,, I just lost my post.... blarg. meh I will say more latter... But the issue is much like that Grafix-arts industry early 90s, at first all Mac, then go in to any place now a days it's all PC. People got over branding, because Mac is no better designed for any application then a PC. If a mac really was, then why do they not use QNX, or BeOS.
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WHY DO THESE THREADS ALWAYS BECOME A PC VS MAC PISSING CONTEST?!?!?!?!
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not always. sometimes its about stability, convenience and ease of use. it's the difference between driving a high end card and a low end car. either way you'll get where you need to go, it's just a matter of how fast and how much you enjoy the drive. i say if you can afford a mac and justify the cost, go for it (i can't).
Yea but the Mac is not much more stable then the PC when it's out in the field. That's an assumed point, not based on any thing other then what's marketed.

Crash Different.

Yea Mac pushed they're OS as more stable, but did you guys us OS 7, and 8? god lord, my Win95 was more stable, and the computer it came on was 1/5 the price. Or 6 more advanced? what a joke, you had to oreconfigure the memory each app had.

Granted the only thing the Mac ever did better then PC was out of the box, simple peripherals, or high end peripherals that most people would never touch. But once you had a system set up right, that mac never was more stable then a PC. (also high end peripherals, such as protools are moving to the PC)
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Man.

WHY DO THESE THREADS ALWAYS BECOME A PC VS MAC PISSING CONTEST?!?!?!?!
I hate PC,,, but that does not mean Mac's are any better. If there was good lazzy apps on linux for video I'd switch. Shit too bad BeOS did not take off. But both issue are to do with apps ether not being there, or just plain moving away from the platform.
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I hate PC,,, but that does not mean Mac's are any better. If there was good lazzy apps on linux for video I'd switch. Shit too bad BeOS did not take off. But both issue are to do with apps ether not being there, or just plain moving away from the platform.
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shit i would have paid to see that
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Yea but the Mac is not much more stable then the PC when it's out in the field. That's an assumed point, not based on any thing other then what's marketed.

Crash Different.
fair enough, but of course that's debatable. anyway, stability was only part of my point. use whatever kind of computer you like, i don't give a shit. i'm far from a mac zealot, i just like to play devil's advocate.
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If I had all the money in the world, yet give me a 4way g5, and 32" 16:9 flat screen monitor. And a 100monkey,,, but cause I love monkeys.
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No you suuuuuuuuut uuuuuuuup! You're just jealous your mac has issues with OsX, and you are stuck with an OS that's behind even win3.11
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BMW M3 vs. Honda Civic.

With enough skill, research, time and love, a dedicated person can trick out a Civic to the point that it'll beat an M3, and still save a pile of money. Some people choose to purchase the speed and user interface up front rather than start from parts and build it up custom by themselves. Some folks don't have the time or interest needed.

Major 3D houses are switching from SGI to PC, not Mac to PC - there's never been a widely-used professional 3D package for the Mac - and while they're switching to XP on the desktop, they're using Linux on the rendering farms. Titanic was rendered on Linux. A Bugs Life was rendered on Linux.

Mac vs. PC is a dumb argument. Mac OSX is better software and hardware, at the expense of price. Windows XP is decent software and much cheaper hardware, at the expense of user interface and out-of-box reliability. Linux is cheap and stable, at the expense of games and hardcore business apps like Office and Photoshop and Maya. There is no "best" of the three, it's entirely based on what you're doing with the machine and your personal preference.

And seriously - can we stop using the term "PC" as meaning "Windows"? That's kinda like calling your computer case a "hard drive"; not for the computer literate.
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1. Yes I read fark. It keeps my thrist for random news quenched.
2. Macs are not better than PCs, that's like saying one of two nearly identical tools os better than the other. It's how you use it. I personally can't stand macs because the GUI is dumbed down to the lowest common user and the UNIX end of it is just not user friendly enough. PCs may be less stable and questionable at times, but I can get drity cheap hardware upgrades, the GUI is customizeable to a level of complexity which I can use.

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yay fark. yay mac's for audio gear, boo to buying macs for your moms.
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Old Jan 06, 05
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^linux geek!
PC know your history kid... the IBM "PC" lineage. Dig up those Bite Magazines.

About the Mac and graphics, I just read a long artical about moving to PC. Both from rendering farms and from work stations. (edit Lucus Arts)

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Also logic in a situation is not always the process people use in there minds. 1/2 the reason people only used mac from 88-95 was because every one else used it. After that point more and more people started to use the PC. And why? Because it's all about getting real work done. Same with music now a days. An it's NOTHING to do with the Windows system just catching up, MacOS and Win have been playing leep frog for years.

Heck Mind set as every thing to do with it... Take even using a computer for music at all. People laughed at me just 5 years ago.

Oh yea,,, computers are NOT about the OS, it's about the apps, and the CPU pushing through the work load. Once you get the system running then the OS has little to do with it. Macs work from day one if they run at all. The WindowsPC side of things take a little work, but if you want just pay some one $500 to do it for you, you will save $1000 or more.

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PS vinyl sucks, CD's are better!
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PS vinyl sucks, CD's are better!
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but but but... i <3 vinyl.
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^linux geek!
PC know your history kid... the IBM "PC" lineage. Dig up those Bite Magazines.
The IBM PC was designed as a low-cost personal computer, to run MS-DOS or OS/2. I run an awful pile of PCs around here, but only the studio computer runs Windows - and even that one is dual-booting with Linux. :)

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The IBM PC was designed as a low-cost personal computer, to run MS-DOS or OS/2. I run an awful pile of PCs around here, but only the studio computer runs Windows - and even that one is dual-booting with Linux. :)

I sold my copy of the Pink Shirt Book at our yard sale last summer.
PC-Dos?
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PC-Dos?
No, PC-DOS was just what MS-DOS was called by IBM. Mr. Gates purchased the full rights to MS-DOS from "Seattle Computer Products" (originally called "QDOS", for "Quick and Dirty Operating System), then sold it to IBM for a tidy profit. When the PC (and PCjr) were just about to be launched IBM were in talks with both Bill Gates and Gary Kildall (creator of the CP/M OS) over which operating system was going to be released with the PC and PCjr.

Nobody knows for sure why they picked MS-DOS over CP/M. Some stories say that Mr. Kildall didn't show up for the meeting (he was flying his plane instead), others say it was his wife who insisted the a bunch of new terms be added to the contract, and still others say it was because he wasn't willing to give up the source code to the OS...

PS: the "Pink Shirt Book" (aka "Peter Norton's Guide to the IBM PC", called the pink shirt book 'cause of the ridiculous pink shirt he wears on the cover) is considered to be the single greatest reference point for all things PC... it was, arguably, a manual on how to build a PC clone. Hmmmmmm.
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wow...and just to think i started all this nonsense by saying "anyone a mac fan?"

oh well....continue
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hey, did he just say MAC?!?!?
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