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why whp shouldn't have a msg board

disclamer: Chris is bored at work...

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The reality is that you will find many people who are already looking for WHP and cant find it. We need some organization with venues DJ teams for WHP Promos and a back bone. Lets get some non profit organizations like Vancouver Childrens Hospital and play an event for the children at Christmas eh. Good ethical business move. They will pay for addvertizing and we help them get a new wing for the hospital. If we build it they will come.

Kyle out.
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Chris....


Im going to agree with you on this one.


vancouver hospital what the fuck?


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I was going to appologize cause I thought posting it here was lame

but then I read it again, and laughed,

then sonik backed me up

I wish the title was diffrent though, it isn't an attack against whp, it's an attack against stupidity in general.
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How the doodle would the scene benefit if the vancouver hospital was part of WHP?

It would suck so much cock it would make a 12 year old surrey girl feel jealous.

Im still in the team, but its stupid dreams like that shit.

If it was a real plan to get VGH on the whp collective, i'd be out of there faster than a jewish foreskin (which probably didnt make sense)


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the funny thing is the guy who posted it actually believed it would work...
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he's not on the team anymore.

maybe it was because of ideas like those.

who knows....

who really cares?


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no cause of the bk incident remeber?
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it wasnt because of that, chris.

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WHP

Kris Taylor of WHP is a joke. All this talk about doing good for the scene, and for the rest of the world. Fact is, it's all talk, he's been doing this shit for about what 2 years now, and nothing has changed nothing has been done, etc. WHP is a failure. I'm getting sick of hearing about it actually.

I stopped ragging on him for the longest time, and I don't intend on continuing, I felt this just had to be said here.

FUCK WHP.

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Jason,

Everyone has their opinions about WHP. Most of them are very bad.

What would you like to see change in the WHP collective.

Ideas/comments/suggestions are always welcomed.

If there is one thing you'd want changed from WHP (And no you cannot say shutting it down, because Kris is not going to take the easy way out) please state it here. No need to make it a flame, im just wanting to know what you'd change.



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ooo meanies

Anyways...

A) yes that guy has been kicked off the team.

Security guy who's spent about 15 minutes listening to the music-turned promoter genius and BK mafioso (as well as crappy roomate) is ghandi

B) No I'm not going to take the easy way out because I love the music

C) thanks for the promo Ninjaboy...

You can go back to the URL for a taste of the new WHP... in case you forgot its www.wickedhouseparty.org

and

D) Oddmud.. The reason nothings changed yet is because getting the scene to work together takes more than just me. It takes everybody and flamewars just doesnt cut it.

finally

E) WHP will never die
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Re: ooo meanies

A) What a shame, wait, what did you need a security guy for?

B)Damn

C)Yes, the good plublicity for whatever it is.

wait, what do you guys do now? I haven't seen any drunken pot fueled basement parties for a while?

D)Or it could be the fact the scene works together, but your normally left out. Your kinda like france, you think your the center of the world, and nobody supports you.

E) Talk to me in a year.
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hahaha

you're so optimistic....

Why do you hate me soo much.
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well it works like this

The number of times you spammed message boards
multiplied by

the size of your holier then though, saviour of the scene ego
mulitplied by

the fact that you think non profit parties are exclusive to you
plus

the replies you make to our comments, which prove to be too funny

divideded by

the amount of free time I have to push all your buttons (in a non sexual way sonik)

equals:

your answer

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Ok then

Given that

WHP will not be shut down

and that I will not shut up

what steps would you suggest to make it better
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the amount of free time I have to push all your buttons (in a non sexual way sonik)

dont worry chris i know what you really meant

rawr

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Given that

WHP will not be shut down

and that I will not shut up

what steps would you suggest to make it better
-Know when to promote and when not to promote
-Don't claim uber promoter status, till you do something that warrents it
-Realize, that your not going to save the scene.
-Non profit parties happen every weekend
-do not spam people
-stop calling yourself a collective, it makes you sound like a pud
-use venues
-shut up about whp radio, my cousin has shoutcast too.
-try and understand, why so many people and promoters hate you, and trust me, it's not cause it's trendy
-Your throwing small parties, don't act like your a mover and shaker in the scene.
-Showing off the size of your dj collective, is just plain dumb, anyone can make a dj collective that big, cause everyone is a dj
-You are not international.
-You are not international. I know that was just said, but since it's such a big point I thought it has to be said twice
-know your place, not to be mean, but damn't man, your not richie hawtin (aka god)
-I'm sure you throw nice parties occasionally, but that's it.
-The scene don't need saving.


Take this advice and see me in a few days.

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Listen man... Nobody's perfect. And I've made mistakes like everyone else. Please please please cut me some slack and stop treating me like the Alliance party treats Stockwell Day..

-Know when to promote and when not to promote

I learned that lesson. Now I only promote when something is actually going on. I ensure that theres only one post for Tribeca and that it doesnt generate multiple threads. WHP radio will be the same philosophy once the studio is set up again.

-Don't claim uber promoter status, till you do something that warrents it

I would respond to this but I dont think I have ever claimed "uber promoter status", nor do I know what that is. This isnt some witty comment. If you really mean "upper" I have not claimed that ever perhaps you had inferred that I had.

-Realize, that your not going to save the scene.

Single handedly, no. With help from people like you and others, maybe. Ideally, I want you and everyone on-side to make this thing work. I really need the help, I cant do it all alone. I have a vision and its not perfect, but with tweaking and correcting as we go along eventually, one day, it may be.

-Non profit parties happen every weekend

Yes, yes they do. The difference with these parties and the parties that I envision is that they are rather exclusive and not open for general attendance. Think of a nonprofit Spooky 6... That's my dream. A $5.00 massive that the city sponsors and actually condones, complete with beer gardens, blablabla all kinds of stuff. While you may not really want to see this yourself, this is the tangent that I would like to see WHP move toward. I can handle that not everyone would want to go to an event like that, and obviously you have to start small.

-do not spam people

er... I learned that a quite a while ago. Some people have ended up in my address book and gotten some accidental messages, when I send one-offs, but I havent done that very often for quite some time now so they arent frequent. Actually that process stopped yesterday, as part of a legacy process for those who hadnt subscribed to the official list. Now everyone who gets the WHP newsletter subscribed. If they dont want it, they can unsubscribe.

-stop calling yourself a collective, it makes you sound like a pud

There are many collectives in this town that you dont call puds. The term collective is simply meant as a descriptor for what it is and how we operate. As a collective, everyone chips in to create the end-result. It's not the "Wickedhouseparty Collective". It's just "Wickedhouseparty".


-use venues

We have.. Wickedhouseparty Girls was held at a Venue. Vancouver Gets Wicked was to be held at a venue but was cancelled because of the transit strike. Wickedchristmasparty was cancelled both because of your threats to throw a party under that guise as well as because a venue was difficult to secure. The only Wickedhouseparty events that are held as houseparties are team-only. I dont want to throw general attendance events at my house.

-shut up about whp radio, my cousin has shoutcast too.

And so does Crazy Dave, and everyone else who can download it. WHP radio is not shoutcast. WHP radio is serviced via a relay (L365) which uses Nanocaster and can serve 1500 listners. Unless your cousin is running an OC3, it's unlikely that his/her shoutcast can serve that many listners.

-try and understand, why so many people and promoters hate you, and trust me, it's not cause it's trendy

I am not entirely sure why this is.. My guess is because we're doing it for free / nonprofit which if successful will lower the overall cost, while they are doing it for money, and if they are successful the price will go up. My only other guess is because I'm not about to sit around and do a ton of ass-kissing to get where I want to go. As far as I'm concerned, ass-kissing is a complete waste of time- sometimes people who want their ass kissed disagree. Maybe I'm wrong and its neither of these two guesses. Until they give me constructive feedback I'll never know.

-Your throwing small parties, don't act like your a mover and shaker in the scene.

I'm no mover and shaker. I'm trying to be a catalyst for change, trying to get everyone to work together. People like Form&Koas, Al Harding, Azim, Riel and others are the real mover-shakers. I need the support of the mover-shakers to make this work and I have approached them on this.

Ironically, most of the real mover-shakers are totally on-side with what I'm doing and think it's great and want to see it grow. I know this because they've told me.

-Showing off the size of your dj collective, is just plain dumb, anyone can make a dj collective that big, cause everyone is a dj

The size of the collective is the key to it's success. When you get 50 people all working toward the same goal you can accomplish anything. Not everyone on the WHP team is a DJ - its about having pure, unadulterated fun and helping to make it.

-You are not international.
-You are not international. I know that was just said, but since it's such a big point I thought it has to be said twice

With WHP in Italy & USA and more in the works we could very well be international. I dont know why you brought this up because I dont really make a big deal out of it.

-know your place, not to be mean, but damn't man, your not richie hawtin (aka god)

I'm not a god. If I thought I was a god, I wouldnt be down on the ground trying to build a team. Sorry, but "know your place" is a phrase that is for the closed minded and those who figure that they can't outgrow and break the label someone else has given them. Thats one that I wont listen to.


Ninjaboy or Chris or whatever you like best to be called...

The reason you frustrate me so with all of your detracting comments is because while the task that I am trying to accomplish is very noble and good, it is also extremely challening. In trying to accomplish what WHP is supposed to do, there are three main challenges:

1) Keeping the team together

Keeping the team together and unified is difficult as it is, without you and your friends constantly bashing WHP to peices wherever you can find. Something in it's infancy is at its weakest point, and this is the point we are at now.

While the team would be easy to keep together if it was me and two friends, it isnt. Having over 40 members in the organization and trying to keep them all on-track to what is happening and helping out is very very very difficult. Everyone leads different lives and since nobody is getting paid, there isnt a monetary bait like some other promotion outfits.

2) Moving forward

Despite major setbacks, like Wickedchristmasparty being cancelled, WHP is moving forward, but slowly. Tribeca is a start to Wickedhouseparty moving toward the objective of one night out for our DJs every single night of the week. Throwing another party is also important as the last party we threw was March 2001.

Forging alliances with the real mover-shakers is also part of moving forward with this thing.

3) Damage Control

Other than you and your friends bashing WHP to peices on every message board, WHP has done an excellent job of damage control. We've had two parties cancelled and managed to ensure that: nobody is ever sold a ticket until the venue is ready, and that nobody has been dissapointed by a WHP event and sent home by the cops.

In fact, as it stands the only damage to control right now is the damage that you cause. It takes a lot of effort and you're quite good at making the mess, so it's hard to clean up if it can be done at all.

I would like you to please understand a few things:

a) I work like three hours per day on Wickedhouseparty.
b) I love it and it really hurts me personally when you try to destroy it for fun
c) I understand that I am not a god, an echelon, an icon, the savior of the scene, a webmaster genius, or anything else.
d) Wickedhouseparty is my way of giving back to the scene. I may make mistakes but I do everything in good faith with a noble heart.
e) You are so persistent that you are wearing me thin and tired. I am trying to make this thing work and to have you constantly fight and fight against it.... well it not only hurts me but tires me out from doing the good that I want to do.

So please please... I beg you please. Just let Wickedhouseparty alone and hopefully for everyone, one day, WHP will be a big success and everyone can share in that success and enjoy it.

If it bombs and fails, at least I tried to incite the change which I feel the scene deserves and worked hard and did not give up. Maybe you will say "I told you so" but I will know that I gave it my all. As you said, the one thing about the rave scene is that you if you dont like something, you can choose to try to change it.

I'm sorry for the hella nasty PM but ... well... people get pissed off somtimes when their ass is being ridden this hard.

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MOTHER FUCK

Jesus, you took this wayyyyy to seriously. But since you wrote such a long winded reply, I will challange it, ninjaboy style.


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-Know when to promote and when not to promote

I learned that lesson. Now I only promote when something is actually going on. I ensure that theres only one post for Tribeca and that it doesnt generate multiple threads. WHP radio will be the same philosophy once the studio is set up again.
Granted, you have cut down a bit... But you still love to bring up your company at every turn. I'm sure your proud of it and all, I'm proud of my wang, but i mention it only when it has anything to do with the orginal topic.

studio? you mean plugging the turntables into a computer...

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-Don't claim uber promoter status, till you do something that warrents it

I would respond to this but I dont think I have ever claimed "uber promoter status", nor do I know what that is. This isnt some witty comment. If you really mean "upper" I have not claimed that ever perhaps you had inferred that I had.
You give off the air, that your an uber promoter. You may not have said it, and i am sorry

don't act like an uber promter

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-Realize, that your not going to save the scene.

Single handedly, no. With help from people like you and others, maybe. Ideally, I want you and everyone on-side to make this thing work. I really need the help, I cant do it all alone. I have a vision and its not perfect, but with tweaking and correcting as we go along eventually, one day, it may be.
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Your on the wrong isde of the fence.
Everyone does work together, but your not included in it.

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-Non profit parties happen every weekend

Yes, yes they do. The difference with these parties and the parties that I envision is that they are rather exclusive and not open for general attendance. Think of a nonprofit Spooky 6... That's my dream. A $5.00 massive that the city sponsors and actually condones, complete with beer gardens, blablabla all kinds of stuff. While you may not really want to see this yourself, this is the tangent that I would like to see WHP move toward. I can handle that not everyone would want to go to an event like that, and obviously you have to start small.
they are open to the general public.
and what your describing is dumb. Sorry, but beer gardens? Government involvement?

If i wanted that, I would go to woodstock 2002

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-do not spam people

er... I learned that a quite a while ago. Some people have ended up in my address book and gotten some accidental messages, when I send one-offs, but I havent done that very often for quite some time now so they arent frequent. Actually that process stopped yesterday, as part of a legacy process for those who hadnt subscribed to the official list. Now everyone who gets the WHP newsletter subscribed. If they dont want it, they can unsubscribe.
I'm sorry, I didn't relaize you changed this moronic system yesterday. For shame on me, not keeping upto date with your system of email spam

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-stop calling yourself a collective, it makes you sound like a pud

There are many collectives in this town that you dont call puds. The term collective is simply meant as a descriptor for what it is and how we operate. As a collective, everyone chips in to create the end-result. It's not the "Wickedhouseparty Collective". It's just "Wickedhouseparty".
This is the face of a man who does not care

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-use venues

We have.. Wickedhouseparty Girls was held at a Venue. Vancouver Gets Wicked was to be held at a venue but was cancelled because of the transit strike. Wickedchristmasparty was cancelled both because of your threats to throw a party under that guise as well as because a venue was difficult to secure. The only Wickedhouseparty events that are held as houseparties are team-only. I dont want to throw general attendance events at my house.
BWHA HA HA, that shitty house party I threw on december 8th destroyed your house party? BWHA HA HA!!!

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-shut up about whp radio, my cousin has shoutcast too.

And so does Crazy Dave, and everyone else who can download it. WHP radio is not shoutcast. WHP radio is serviced via a relay (L365) which uses Nanocaster and can serve 1500 listners. Unless your cousin is running an OC3, it's unlikely that his/her shoutcast can serve that many listners.
Okay, I have live365 as well, whuptiy fucking do.

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-try and understand, why so many people and promoters hate you, and trust me, it's not cause it's trendy

I am not entirely sure why this is.. My guess is because we're doing it for free / nonprofit which if successful will lower the overall cost, while they are doing it for money, and if they are successful the price will go up. My only other guess is because I'm not about to sit around and do a ton of ass-kissing to get where I want to go. As far as I'm concerned, ass-kissing is a complete waste of time- sometimes people who want their ass kissed disagree. Maybe I'm wrong and its neither of these two guesses. Until they give me constructive feedback I'll never know.
Yes, that's it. We all fear you. All the promoters in the city... we sit around a large table, saying damn those justice league of whp, for they will soon foil us all.

Around that time batman comes in though, and takes us all down.

Seriously, look at marks arm, it got cut clean off.

Everyone does non profit parties, so it's not that we fear your 5-15 dollar ticket prices.

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-Your throwing small parties, don't act like your a mover and shaker in the scene.

I'm no mover and shaker. I'm trying to be a catalyst for change, trying to get everyone to work together. People like Form&Koas, Al Harding, Azim, Riel and others are the real mover-shakers. I need the support of the mover-shakers to make this work and I have approached them on this.

Ironically, most of the real mover-shakers are totally on-side with what I'm doing and think it's great and want to see it grow. I know this because they've told me.
Yes, al, he's with you guys, stiking down the evil oppresors.

I sent, Azim an email about my small company, he said something along the lines of

"Keep working with it, I fully support you, and don't forget to eat your vitamins little hulkster!"

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-Showing off the size of your dj collective, is just plain dumb, anyone can make a dj collective that big, cause everyone is a dj

The size of the collective is the key to it's success. When you get 50 people all working toward the same goal you can accomplish anything. Not everyone on the WHP team is a DJ - its about having pure, unadulterated fun and helping to make it.
You have 50 people on your team? what's the average attendence of your parties (the last few, not the future ones)

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-You are not international.
-You are not international. I know that was just said, but since it's such a big point I thought it has to be said twice

With WHP in Italy & USA and more in the works we could very well be international. I dont know why you brought this up because I dont really make a big deal out of it.
Damn.

just damn. I'm not even going to comment.

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-know your place, not to be mean, but damn't man, your not richie hawtin (aka god)

I'm not a god. If I thought I was a god, I wouldnt be down on the ground trying to build a team. Sorry, but "know your place" is a phrase that is for the closed minded and those who figure that they can't outgrow and break the label someone else has given them. Thats one that I wont listen to.
Shit. So close!


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Ninjaboy or Chris or whatever you like best to be called...
Call me sveth, sweedish oral sex champion by day, crime fighter by night

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The reason you frustrate me so with all of your detracting comments is because while the task that I am trying to accomplish is very noble and good, it is also extremely challening. In trying to accomplish what WHP is supposed to do, there are three main challenges:
Yes, you noble soul. Trying to bring your friends together in your house for some music,

if only their were more heros like you, the world would be a better place.

but then again, there aren't, which is why we have batman

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1) Keeping the team together

Keeping the team together and unified is difficult as it is, without you and your friends constantly bashing WHP to peices wherever you can find. Something in it's infancy is at its weakest point, and this is the point we are at now.

While the team would be easy to keep together if it was me and two friends, it isnt. Having over 40 members in the organization and trying to keep them all on-track to what is happening and helping out is very very very difficult. Everyone leads different lives and since nobody is getting paid, there isnt a monetary bait like some other promotion outfits.
I thought it was 50? I find it ironic that just a few posts up someone was explaining how kyle was kicked out.

There are other groups that do the same thing, for no money too you know.

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2) Moving forward

Despite major setbacks, like Wickedchristmasparty being cancelled, WHP is moving forward, but slowly. Tribeca is a start to Wickedhouseparty moving toward the objective of one night out for our DJs every single night of the week. Throwing another party is also important as the last party we threw was March 2001.

Forging alliances with the real mover-shakers is also part of moving forward with this thing.
In this way, we will conquer that blasted rave scene, and banish ninjaboy, and the other elitests, to a remote prison cell in the arctic.

The last thing you did was in march....
damn.

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3) Damage Control

Other than you and your friends bashing WHP to peices on every message board, WHP has done an excellent job of damage control. We've had two parties cancelled and managed to ensure that: nobody is ever sold a ticket until the venue is ready, and that nobody has been dissapointed by a WHP event and sent home by the cops.
Yes, I'm sure you were beating back the crowds who wanted tickets.

the few parties i have helped with were not busted either. Wow.

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In fact, as it stands the only damage to control right now is the damage that you cause. It takes a lot of effort and you're quite good at making the mess, so it's hard to clean up if it can be done at all.
HOW AM I MAKING A MESS. For a world collective you certinally rely on ONE message board with maybe 150 users on it. and I'll be kind in saying 1/3 of the board attends your parties.

WOW! 50 people!

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I would like you to please understand a few things:
I'm not making any promises.

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a) I work like three hours per day on Wickedhouseparty.
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it takes you three hours a day to organize tuesday nights at a resturant.
you should consider a new hobby.
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b) I love it and it really hurts me personally when you try to destroy it for fun
this isn't for fun, it's for justice!
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c) I understand that I am not a god, an echelon, an icon, the savior of the scene, a webmaster genius, or anything else.
but you act it out so well.
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d) Wickedhouseparty is my way of giving back to the scene. I may make mistakes but I do everything in good faith with a noble heart.
so, as it's been explained, you piss more people off then you make happy with your noble parties.

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e) You are so persistent that you are wearing me thin and tired. I am trying to make this thing work and to have you constantly fight and fight against it.... well it not only hurts me but tires me out from doing the good that I want to do.
I wanna go around handing bibles down the street, but chances are if i did something that stupid like trying to force my views on other people i would get pretty much bashed by other people.

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So please please... I beg you please. Just let Wickedhouseparty alone and hopefully for everyone, one day, WHP will be a big success and everyone can share in that success and enjoy it.
Personally I don't think I could enjoy your perverted views on raves.
BEER gardens?
Government involvement?
If that's giving back to the scene that's like saying punching old people is helping the elderly.

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If it bombs and fails, at least I tried to incite the change which I feel the scene deserves and worked hard and did not give up. Maybe you will say "I told you so" but I will know that I gave it my all. As you said, the one thing about the rave scene is that you if you dont like something, you can choose to try to change it.
Wow, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO THE SAME THING
but don't mention it every fucking day.

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I'm sorry for the hella nasty PM but ... well... people get pissed off somtimes when their ass is being ridden this hard.

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Don't worry, I'm sorry for single handedly destroying your company.

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Originally posted by Man With Gestapo Complex said:
Listen man... Nobody's perfect. And I've made mistakes like everyone else. Please please please cut me some slack and stop treating me like the Alliance party treats Stockwell Day..
In order for us to treat you the way the Alliance treats Mr. Day, you at one point would have had to been our leader, your poor analogy does not work here. I liken it more to the annoying kid in your kindergarten class who sits in the corner eating paste.

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I learned that lesson. Now I only promote when something is actually going on. I ensure that theres only one post for Tribeca and that it doesnt generate multiple threads. WHP radio will be the same philosophy once the studio is set up again.
Wishful thinking but you're still a walking promo, and a bedroom with a computer, a mixer, and some tables does not constitute a studio.

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I would respond to this but I dont think I have ever claimed "uber promoter status", nor do I know what that is. This isnt some witty comment. If you really mean "upper" I have not claimed that ever perhaps you had inferred that I had.
UBER is German for SUPER, it's most common usage in western culture and philosophy was that of Nietchze's UBER MENSCHE or SUPERMAN, which was much of the basis for the Nazis philosophy. You have never come right out and said it, yet you constantly make allusions to it.

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Single handedly, no. With help from people like you and others, maybe. Ideally, I want you and everyone on-side to make this thing work. I really need the help, I cant do it all alone. I have a vision and its not perfect, but with tweaking and correcting as we go along eventually, one day, it may be.
In order for people to work with you, they must first respect you. Well sorry to break this to you, due to previous actions and such, you will never garner respect from the likes of such people.

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Yes, yes they do. The difference with these parties and the parties that I envision is that they are rather exclusive and not open for general attendance. Think of a nonprofit Spooky 6... That's my dream. A $5.00 massive that the city sponsors and actually condones, complete with beer gardens, blablabla all kinds of stuff. While you may not really want to see this yourself, this is the tangent that I would like to see WHP move toward. I can handle that not everyone would want to go to an event like that, and obviously you have to start small.
Just because you don't hear about them does'nt make them exclusive, many small parties I've been to I've purchased tickets at outlets, and not once have they asked me who I was, and how I heard about the party. By throwing a massive for cheap, you will get the exact same crowd you do now, and that is part of the problem, your VISION is flawed, much like that of the UBERMENSCHE and KRYPTONITE. It's not so much having to start small, you actually have to START.

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er... I learned that a quite a while ago. Some people have ended up in my address book and gotten some accidental messages, when I send one-offs, but I havent done that very often for quite some time now so they arent frequent. Actually that process stopped yesterday, as part of a legacy process for those who hadnt subscribed to the official list. Now everyone who gets the WHP newsletter subscribed. If they dont want it, they can unsubscribe.
Sounds like a lot of work for someone who did'nt want to be there in the first place.

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There are many collectives in this town that you dont call puds. The term collective is simply meant as a descriptor for what it is and how we operate. As a collective, everyone chips in to create the end-result. It's not the "Wickedhouseparty Collective". It's just "Wickedhouseparty".
The difference is they do stuff, they follow set rules, they're not fucking annoying, and once again THEY DO STUFF!!! As for the last part of that excerpt, I read it three times and it still does'nt make sense.

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We have.. Wickedhouseparty Girls was held at a Venue. Vancouver Gets Wicked was to be held at a venue but was cancelled because of the transit strike. Wickedchristmasparty was cancelled both because of your threats to throw a party under that guise as well as because a venue was difficult to secure. The only Wickedhouseparty events that are held as houseparties are team-only. I dont want to throw general attendance events at my house.
That's great, you get 2pts for having an event go off, parties that don't happen don't count, you get -7pts for trying to slip those by, fear of other small promoters gets you another -7pts, having friends come over to get high and spin records does not constitute an event, trying to pass them off as one gets you another -10pts. Wow congratulations, your RAVE PROMOTER RATING is at -137pts.

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And so does Crazy Dave, and everyone else who can download it. WHP radio is not shoutcast. WHP radio is serviced via a relay (L365) which uses Nanocaster and can serve 1500 listners. Unless your cousin is running an OC3, it's unlikely that his/her shoutcast can serve that many listners.
Yet you only get a handful of listeners, sounds counter productive to me.

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I am not entirely sure why this is.. My guess is because we're doing it for free / nonprofit which if successful will lower the overall cost, while they are doing it for money, and if they are successful the price will go up. My only other guess is because I'm not about to sit around and do a ton of ass-kissing to get where I want to go. As far as I'm concerned, ass-kissing is a complete waste of time- sometimes people who want their ass kissed disagree. Maybe I'm wrong and its neither of these two guesses. Until they give me constructive feedback I'll never know.
It's not because you're doing it for free, it's more because you're not doing it at all, and yet are claiming that you are doing it. Ass kissing has nothing to do with it, you've done your fair share of ass kissing. You're not getting feedback because it's blatantly obvious, sometimes I wonder whose worse, YOU or KRAZYRICEBOY, at least he can point out the obvious, you're just oblivious to it.

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I'm no mover and shaker. I'm trying to be a catalyst for change, trying to get everyone to work together. People like Form&Koas, Al Harding, Azim, Riel and others are the real mover-shakers. I need the support of the mover-shakers to make this work and I have approached them on this.
The funny thing is, you will never be on par with any of the aforementioned people, they all have a constant grip on the obvious, it's a pre-requisite for becoming a mover and a shaker.

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Ironically, most of the real mover-shakers are totally on-side with what I'm doing and think it's great and want to see it grow. I know this because they've told me.
NO, they just say that because it's an easy way to get you out of their hair.

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The size of the collective is the key to it's success. When you get 50 people all working toward the same goal you can accomplish anything. Not everyone on the WHP team is a DJ - its about having pure, unadulterated fun and helping to make it.
Wow, that sounds like a slightly altered excerpt from MEINE KEMPF. What is next OH GREAT FUHRER!!!

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With WHP in Italy & USA and more in the works we could very well be international. I dont know why you brought this up because I dont really make a big deal out of it.
Yet you make a big enough deal to tell everyone about it, where the hell is the logic in that????

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I'm not a god. If I thought I was a god, I wouldnt be down on the ground trying to build a team. Sorry, but "know your place" is a phrase that is for the closed minded and those who figure that they can't outgrow and break the label someone else has given them. Thats one that I wont listen to.
Now you're just as bad as PIX-Z.

Some people are just useless, and you my friend are one of them.

And I'm spent.

cubed

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Old Jan 08, 02
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Bahahaha wtf??? 'lets throw a rave for the sick children'

yeah your a modern day ghandi buddy.... riiiighhht.

oh shit are you going to send the borg after me now?

so yeah.. lets throw a partie for the sick kids, and give them some glowsticks and e so we can make money to buy them some phat pants.

this is sad.. very sad.
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kris, keep on chasing that rainbow..
because you're never going to get anywhere with this "WHP" crap. i think its obviously by the public's response that everyone could care less about what you're trying [note, TRYING.] to do for 'the scene.
there's a lot of people that don't make money ont heir parties, in fact, they *gasp* LOSE money... you dont see them self-promoting every post they make, do you? no. i rest my case.
maybe someone will give a shit about your half-assed effort to 'the scene' when you stop being such a lamer, and get in gear/get organized, and do something worthwhile.

and my endless sense of optimism is saying that won't be any time soon.. oh dearie me, whatever will we do without WHP? *laughs hysterically, falls off chair laughing* point proven. :)

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Bahahaha wtf??? 'lets throw a rave for the sick children'

yeah your a modern day ghandi buddy.... riiiighhht.

oh shit are you going to send the borg after me now?

so yeah.. lets throw a partie for the sick kids, and give them some glowsticks and e so we can make money to buy them some phat pants.

this is sad.. very sad.
HAHA yeah why dont you feed them some PMA or something and help the hospital out while your at it? LOL

and why the fuck would the sick kids neccesarily like electronica?
im pretty sure theyd be happy listening to their JAY-Z and their britney spears.. ahaha

reetard

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INTERNATIONAL RAVER COLLECTIVE CURES LEUKEMIA WITH HARDHOUSE/TRANCE

actual live testimonials

billy: "WHP cured my disease, THANK YOU KRIS!"
sally: "that thumping beat really improved my brain tumor"
gerry: "im part of their collective now! everyone said i couldnt DJ without arms, but kris helped me achieve my goal.. now if only mom would let me go to a rave"


billy enjoying a new WHP mix at home.

THANK YOU WHP!! :Kimmie:
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