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View Poll Results: extra terrestrial life forms... do they exist?
yes, I believe that something else is out there 32 86.49%
no, that is a bunch of bogus nonsence 2 5.41%
hmmm... I never really gave it much thought 3 8.11%
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Old Feb 18, 05
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^ i finally got around to reading some of that. pretty twisted.
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Old Feb 19, 05
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Why shouldnt there be another kind of liferom? they already discovered traces of life on other planets, were just not there enough with technology yet, what i find interesting is the idea of a prallel universe existing out there.
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Old Feb 19, 05
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Old Feb 19, 05
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I'm all for the inexplicable mysteries of the universe.
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Old Feb 19, 05
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There are billion and billions of stars out there. Many with planets.

I was looking at the NASA site the other day and I was looking at one star. One single speck of light that we could see from earth

But what it really was is 1500+ different galaxies each with millions of stars in them.
just a tiny dot of light is all we could see from Earth!

There's gotta be life out there somehwere
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Old Feb 20, 05
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As you may suspect this is not another endless quest to determine if ETs are
active on Earth. That is the question our governments are trying to perpetuate. The reason for that is simple. The information that lies beyond that question has so much potential impact that there is no way to tell who will be on top after the dust settles.

WHAT? NO OPINION?

To find someone who truly has no opinion on a significant subject is rare. Nevertheless many people claim to be undecided about ET activity on Earth. Perhaps they are the rare person without an opinion or perhaps they consciously or unconsciously fear ridicule. If you are truly undecided concerning the ET, you may want to develop a more intuitive method of judgement. Realize that few things worth knowing are provable. Try to distinguish your fear from your intuition - fear is strong, intuition comes from deep inside. If you learn how to do this your learning will accelerate.

On almost any subject worthy of debate, you can find many arguments for either side. There comes a time when you have to make a judgement in order to move forward. So if you are undecided, stop reading this. Learn as much as reasonable about ETs in our present and our history and make your judgement.

HOW TO PROCEED TOWARDS PROOF

If you have decided you need to do some research, be aware that there has been a concerted effort, a campaign, to mislead the casual researcher. I have even heard reports on national news that there is no evidence of ET activity on Earth. There is literally tons of hard evidence and documentation (just a
macabre example; tons of mutilated cattle where all the incisions are made
ALONG THE CELL WALL of all the tissues). Acres of proof - intricate patterns of grain that grows *horizontally* for weeks (this is the definitive proof of
genuine crop circles) after being bend over in a spiral layered process.

Also worth of mention are a thorough investigation on the Sumarian and Babylonian texts, cave art in Spain & France circa 20 000 B.C., Peruvian Nasca lines, Militarized no fly zones on North and South Pole 1200 miles in diameter each, dare I say Area 51?

There is a wealth of ET information, because there has been significant communication for years. Photos of what their ships look like are of little interest compared to what they say.

Unfortunately, the correct channels can be elusive. Misleading information can
appear in apparently innocent forms. For example, I often hear that most
sightings are reported by crackpots. It is true that crackpots sometimes report seeing spacemen and talking directly to God, but consider this; it is very easy to determine the reputation of an individual. An investigator can determine the reliability of a potential witness without packing a bag. The idea that most reports are made by crackpots is an attempt at a general debunking. Don't fall for it.

Also, there are many books on the market produced by uninitiated publishers who don't know what is significant and what is not. These book contain photographs that only propose that there was some kind of advanced vehicle in the air and do not relate any exchange of information. I hope you do not have to read too many of those before you realize that they are here and start wondering what they know about Earth and the universe.

Now before I present the summary I would like to respond to a question that
constantly comes up. Although I try and simply quote the messages from ET's, I would like to make an addition to their reasons as to why they do not open up communication with us. It's really quite simple, we are looked down upon as a perverted and corrupt group of humans whose fascination with material possessions and violence must not be allowed to spread to other worlds. Some civilizations that visit us consider our violent natures and selfishness so upsetting that they can not stand to be near us.

WHAT IS NEEDED

If ETs decided to contact some officials on Earth, who could that be? Who would not beg them for help and knowledge that we are probably not ready for? Can you give medical knowledge to a planet facing over population when they have not demonstrated reasonable birth control? Can you give a government better technology when war breaks out all over the globe? It makes sense that we will not be contacted in any official way until there is only one government and no war.


Now if you are aware of political affairs and the state of globalization you would know that this has been the plan all along, considering the nature of the human being. I will tell you now that EVERY ANCIENT CIVILIZATION worthy of note has had contact, documented contact with ET and pretty much every religion talks about them in their sacred texts.

I don't think the question should be ARE THEY OUT THERE? But rather, HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN HERE, AND WHAT ROLE ARE WE GOING TO PLAY?

Compare the mythology of Atlantis, to what we know about Egypt and the Mayans and you may start to scratch the surface.



snippets from http://www.textfiles.com/ufo/speaket.txt
my added comments italiced.

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Anyways, some apparent widely acclaimed races in contact with mankind are said to be:

Elohim
Nephilim
Zeta Reticulians
Pleiadians
Sirians
Reptillians
Men in Black
Andromedans

there said to be many more, but that's already quite the crowd, especially if you haven't met any. Perhaps they are closer to us than we've suspected?

http://ufobc.ca/
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Old Feb 20, 05
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Originally Posted by djmarkpaul
As you may suspect this is not another endless quest to determine if ETs are
active on Earth. That is the question our governments are trying to perpetuate. The reason for that is simple. The information that lies beyond that question has so much potential impact that there is no way to tell who will be on top after the dust settles.

WHAT? NO OPINION?

To find someone who truly has no opinion on a significant subject is rare. Nevertheless many people claim to be undecided about ET activity on Earth. Perhaps they are the rare person without an opinion or perhaps they consciously or unconsciously fear ridicule. If you are truly undecided concerning the ET, you may want to develop a more intuitive method of judgement. Realize that few things worth knowing are provable. Try to distinguish your fear from your intuition - fear is strong, intuition comes from deep inside. If you learn how to do this your learning will accelerate.

On almost any subject worthy of debate, you can find many arguments for either side. There comes a time when you have to make a judgement in order to move forward. So if you are undecided, stop reading this. Learn as much as reasonable about ETs in our present and our history and make your judgement.

HOW TO PROCEED TOWARDS PROOF

If you have decided you need to do some research, be aware that there has been a concerted effort, a campaign, to mislead the casual researcher. I have even heard reports on national news that there is no evidence of ET activity on Earth. There is literally tons of hard evidence and documentation (just a
macabre example; tons of mutilated cattle where all the incisions are made
ALONG THE CELL WALL of all the tissues). Acres of proof - intricate patterns of grain that grows *horizontally* for weeks (this is the definitive proof of
genuine crop circles) after being bend over in a spiral layered process.

Also worth of mention are a thorough investigation on the Sumarian and Babylonian texts, cave art in Spain & France circa 20 000 B.C., Peruvian Nasca lines, Militarized no fly zones on North and South Pole 1200 miles in diameter each, dare I say Area 51?

There is a wealth of ET information, because there has been significant communication for years. Photos of what their ships look like are of little interest compared to what they say.

Unfortunately, the correct channels can be elusive. Misleading information can
appear in apparently innocent forms. For example, I often hear that most
sightings are reported by crackpots. It is true that crackpots sometimes report seeing spacemen and talking directly to God, but consider this; it is very easy to determine the reputation of an individual. An investigator can determine the reliability of a potential witness without packing a bag. The idea that most reports are made by crackpots is an attempt at a general debunking. Don't fall for it.

Also, there are many books on the market produced by uninitiated publishers who don't know what is significant and what is not. These book contain photographs that only propose that there was some kind of advanced vehicle in the air and do not relate any exchange of information. I hope you do not have to read too many of those before you realize that they are here and start wondering what they know about Earth and the universe.

Now before I present the summary I would like to respond to a question that
constantly comes up. Although I try and simply quote the messages from ET's, I would like to make an addition to their reasons as to why they do not open up communication with us. It's really quite simple, we are looked down upon as a perverted and corrupt group of humans whose fascination with material possessions and violence must not be allowed to spread to other worlds. Some civilizations that visit us consider our violent natures and selfishness so upsetting that they can not stand to be near us.

WHAT IS NEEDED

If ETs decided to contact some officials on Earth, who could that be? Who would not beg them for help and knowledge that we are probably not ready for? Can you give medical knowledge to a planet facing over population when they have not demonstrated reasonable birth control? Can you give a government better technology when war breaks out all over the globe? It makes sense that we will not be contacted in any official way until there is only one government and no war.


Now if you are aware of political affairs and the state of globalization you would know that this has been the plan all along, considering the nature of the human being. I will tell you now that EVERY ANCIENT CIVILIZATION worthy of note has had contact, documented contact with ET and pretty much every religion talks about them in their sacred texts.

I don't think the question should be ARE THEY OUT THERE? But rather, HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN HERE, AND WHAT ROLE ARE WE GOING TO PLAY?

Compare the mythology of Atlantis, to what we know about Egypt and the Mayans and you may start to scratch the surface.



snippets from http://www.textfiles.com/ufo/speaket.txt
my added comments italiced.

***
Anyways, some apparent widely acclaimed races in contact with mankind are said to be:

Elohim
Nephilim
Zeta Reticulians
Pleiadians
Sirians
Reptillians
Men in Black
Andromedans

there said to be many more, but that's already quite the crowd, especially if you haven't met any. Perhaps they are closer to us than we've suspected?

http://ufobc.ca/
you guys should be glad you have somebody who actually cares about a message board enough to make a post like that

anyone who doesn't believe aliens have influence on earth and visit us regularly, are probably the same people who talk about paranormal stories but still believe it doesn't exist.
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Old Feb 20, 05
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^ I think we have to finish the search for intelligent life here first! As it's slim pickins!
The clearest proof that there's intelligent life in outter space is the fact that they haven't tried to make contact with us yet. Good grief.
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Old Feb 20, 05
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By thinking that we are the be all and end all of "intelligent" creation, that is just human arrogance.

Seriously, if we ARE, it's just one big cosmic joke. Humans are selfish, arrogant, horrible creatures. There's GOT to be something in the universe that's smarter than us. And I'm not talking a "god" figure.

It has nothing to do with arrogance. It has to to with odds and statistics.

There is probably life. But if we say that say 100 000, planets have life, then you take out all the planets that haven't evolved, then take out the ones that never evolve intellegence, those which never evolve sentient life... your getting pretty thin.
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I'll argue the other side point for point.

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Originally Posted by djmarkpaul
HOW TO PROCEED TOWARDS PROOF

If you have decided you need to do some research, be aware that there has been a concerted effort, a campaign, to mislead the casual researcher. I have even heard reports on national news that there is no evidence of ET activity on Earth.
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There is literally tons of hard evidence and documentation (just a
macabre example; tons of mutilated cattle where all the incisions are made
ALONG THE CELL WALL of all the tissues).
I haven't heard this, site something from a major newspaper, or univiersity, that actually says along the cell wall.

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Acres of proof - intricate patterns of grain that grows *horizontally* for weeks (this is the definitive proof of
genuine crop circles) after being bend over in a spiral layered process.
Imagine this, your a plotician for the Alien Cosomo Galaxay. You decided to put forward a bill, saying that you want to spend trillions of dollars developing a space ship, to go 400 light years away and write grafiti in a bunch of plants. And while your at it, mainly concentrate on the english speaking parts, especially the very small island of britian.

That is hardly proof, remeber when they found they guys who did it? As for it growing horizontally, that's not a far cry, the wheat will still grow after being bent, and plants don't perk up right away, they still have to recover.

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Also worth of mention are a thorough investigation on the Sumarian and Babylonian texts, cave art in Spain & France circa 20 000 B.C.


I don't think that cave art is a very good proof. Something drawn by an early human with the intellegence of a 6 year old is not fact.

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, Peruvian Nasca lines,
During that time in Peru, the locals had the ability actually to make hot air balloons. This was used to plot the lines by using landmarks.

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Militarized no fly zones on North and South Pole 1200 miles in diameter each, dare I say Area 51?
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Your not supposed to fly over the poles because of the problems the magnetic poles will cause to airplane instruments. And as for area 51, I don't think that it's a far cry for the american military to not let civilians fly over or go into a building that is researching their future planes and weapons. And by the way, I'm sure if the american government had aliens, and was developing alien technology, they wouldn't do it at a facility everyone knows about and had several movies made about it.

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There is a wealth of ET information, because there has been significant communication for years. Photos of what their ships look like are of little interest compared to what they say.
Give me recorded proof of their communications with us...

Think of this. Alien sightings and photo "proof" have only really occured in large numbers in the last 30-40 years.

In this time, there has not been a single shred of physical proof. Somehow they have not dropped ANYTHING at all.

Almost every photo taken of an alien ship is from far away, and normally only against the sky (no referance points)

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For example, I often hear that most
sightings are reported by crackpots. It is true that crackpots sometimes report seeing spacemen and talking directly to God, but consider this; it is very easy to determine the reputation of an individual. An investigator can determine the reliability of a potential witness without packing a bag. The idea that most reports are made by crackpots is an attempt at a general debunking. Don't fall for it.
It may not be crack pots, but a lot are uninformed people, who mistake objects for something they are not. People see things such as: the star cappella, metors, fireballs, ball lighting, aircraft, fauilty radar equipment, and even japanese squid boats (they use bright lights to bring squid up, but the light reflects and shines on to the clouds in the pacific)

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I hope you do not have to read too many of those before you realize that they are here and start wondering what they know about Earth and the universe.
I've read them, and between the blurry photos, and poor witnesses, I don't believe it.

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Although I try and simply quote the messages from ET's, I would like to make an addition to their reasons as to why they do not open up communication with us. It's really quite simple, we are looked down upon as a perverted and corrupt group of humans whose fascination with material possessions and violence must not be allowed to spread to other worlds. Some civilizations that visit us consider our violent natures and selfishness so upsetting that they can not stand to be near us.
If that was the case why visit us at all?


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Now if you are aware of political affairs and the state of globalization you would know that this has been the plan all along, considering the nature of the human being. I will tell you now that EVERY ANCIENT CIVILIZATION worthy of note has had contact, documented contact with ET and pretty much every religion talks about them in their sacred texts.


Fuck that, I'm sick of people claiming that ancent civilzations came from aliens who came and helped build the pyramids and such.

The egyptians for example had the know how to build the pyramids. That's a fact, it's not as if one day they built this one big temple. They developed this technique over time, there are hundreds of small pyramids. You can trace the development of these great wonders, in any civilzation.

That's a fact. Look up egyptian history and you'll see a slow development. Look and the cultures of the south america and you'll see the same thing.

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Compare the mythology of Atlantis, to what we know about Egypt and the Mayans and you may start to scratch the surface.
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The mythology of Atlantis starts and ends in a greek play by plato. It was a litterary tool used in the play.

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Anyways, some apparent widely acclaimed races in contact with mankind are said to be:

Elohim
Nephilim
Zeta Reticulians
Pleiadians
Sirians
Reptillians
Men in Black
Andromedans

there said to be many more, but that's already quite the crowd, especially if you haven't met any. Perhaps they are closer to us than we've suspected?

http://ufobc.ca/
or for fucks sake....

Remeber this, extraordinarey claims require extraordinarey proof.
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