Provincial election coming up!

[b0ld]

So who are you gonna vote for the provincial election? As far as I'm concerned this election is probably the most pathetic ever.As much as I hate Gordon Campbell I honestly think he is going to win this election. Reason being? he is an excellent sales person. He can sell you a dream that doesn't exist. Right now he is claiming that his government is the one responsible for the economic boom and people are buying it.... I mean come on people the olympics are going to be here in 5 years and of course there is going to be an economic boom from now till then regardless as to what government is in place. Its all about the contractors and corporate companies that set up shop. Yet campbell will claim it all on his own because thats all he has going for him which is something that he didn't create.

The current leader of the NDP party is an absolute tool. No confidence at all, everything appears to be read off by a cue card when ever she does her speeches. Very little emotion during her speeches. The old leader Joye Mcphail on the other half was someone that can honestly push the party, pure confidence in what they believe in and intended to push it through. The current NDP leader almost makes it a free for all now days. Seems like all the M.L.A's got better speeches in there pocket at any given time.



And the green party... Well what can we say about them. There leader so far appears to be alot more confident then the NDP leader which puts a plus on that. I think there gonna do alot better then last election. Probably gonna get a lot more seats. Only thing that gets me giggling is the news report they had on tv. They showed the green party getting ready with all the print out of there flyers. Asked whether or not the paper was recycled or fresh... guess what the answer was... thats right fresh paper... So much for saving the tree's. So ya this election will be an interesting one. I honestly don't think I am gonna vote cause I personally have lost confidence in the parties that are running. But again I won't be suprised if Campbell gets back in.

[mojo]

leaning towards green right now, but i have to wait to hear from everyone.

[lithe]

i've always supported the liberals, but have been decidely unimpressed with gordon campbell's performance. i dislike the NDP, and i've always considered the Green party a nice dream, but little more than a dream. i really don't know what to do.

that said, i haven't done nearly enough research into it yet, what with exams. i'm sure i'll have a more substantiated opinion closer to the date.

ah, the lesser of multiple evils.

[Ree Fresh]

Id like to vote liberal however with Gordon Cambell... nuff said.
So its a tough call between NDP or Green.

[Scavello]

seems like everyone feels the same about gordon campbell. its gonna be a tough call between ndp and green tho

[sungoo]

maybe with such a liberal and NDP party in shambles, maybe the green party will get some more exposure and lose some of that tree hugging lore that follows their party.

they are environmentally friendly, yes, but they're not as one sided as a lot of the younger generation see them as.

[Goodfellow]

go NDP !

too bad all the same shit will happen regardless of what symbol comes out on top.

[ja_raul]

imo, ill continue to support the liberals because they are the ones that brought the olympics to bc.. or they will for that matter..

[miss.myra]

I've always been a liberal supporter federally and provincially...the only crappy part is that in my riding, the liberal MLA (lorne mayencourt) is a total prick, and not someone I have much respect for poltically. The NDP guy running (stevenson) is actually a city counsellor with the COPE party- I'm extremely impressed with the city council and mayor in this city, so it's a totally tough call. I really hate the liberal prick, but I'd hate to see the NDP running BC again.

[cinist]

i wish the ndp would throw all support behind the green party or even vice versa, it's the split vote that gives us people like gordon

[acidic_liquid]

See this is the problem with me voting. Everyone always says GO VOTE! YOUR VOICE IS IMPORTANT. But what if you're really not that educated in politics? I'm choosing Liberal just because from what I know of them and what I believe in, they're the best party to vote for.

Should people who don't know enough not vote?
But then there are all these stupid people who vote based only on what they see on TV, etc. Someone has to cancel them out :p

[tommy-boi]

vote for green party! (but i dont think they will ever win :(:(:()

[-ff-]

sadly, the liberals are going to win the election.

but the more important question on the ballot will be the STV electoral reform question. We have the opportunity to change the electoral system to one that is more representative. VOTE YES!!!

[mapleleaf4ever]

Liberals: Most likely gonna win realistically

NDP: Hey Kiddies, maybe you'll get 4 Seats this Time...

Greens: It's the thought that counts right?

Still pissed off that the Conservatives aren't in B.C.

[-ff-]

Originally Posted by cinist

i wish the ndp would through all support behind the green party or even vice versa, it's the split vote that gives us people like gordon

This is why you need to vote Yes in the referendum! It gives you the ultimate choice of where your vote goes, and stops strategic voting and split votes.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by mapleleaf4ever

Liberals: Most likely gonna win realistically

NDP: Hey Kiddies, maybe you'll get 4 Seats this Time...

Greens: It's the thought that counts right?

Still pissed off that the Conservatives aren't in B.C.

4 seats? I doubt it, I think the NDP stands to win a lot more seats in this election, but they won't take the cake.

I'd like the conservatives in BC if it was actual tories, and not these crazy neo conservatives that run their agenda based on personal opinions that are fairly extreme. The liberals in this province, however, are fairly conservative imo.

[Ree Fresh]

Shannon is totaly right. All the anti Liberals (gordon cambell) will end up splitting their votes between NDP/Green letting the liberals win.
Yet -ff- has an excelt point I wasnt aware. Voting YES on the referendum could hopefuly llead to a more ballanced government of liberals/NDP and maybe even a few seats for the greens too. Now that would be awsome!

[dre420]

either Green or NDP

I'm leaning towards NDP because they have a more realistic shot at winning than the greens.

[cheebus420]

It's a very sad state of affairs that Gorden Campbell is going to be back in. He's fucked students right up the ass with tuition prices, and health care is going down the tube. Not to mention the privitization of so many resources! Top it off with drunk driving in Haiwaii makes him the laughing stock of Canada.

[mapleleaf4ever]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

4 seats? I doubt it, I think the NDP stands to win a lot more seats in this election, but they won't take the cake.

I'd like the conservatives in BC if it was actual tories, and not these crazy neo conservatives that run their agenda based on personal opinions that are fairly extreme. The liberals in this province, however, are fairly conservative imo.

Well you get the point, the NDP will gain enough seats that the Liberals won't be able to run rampant doing what they will but I highly doubt they'd form a Government. I agree with you on the Conservative Party thing as well. They can keep the crazy Bible Belt Conservatives in Alberta. ;) The BC Liberals are more Right Wing than the Federal Counterparts. I wonder if the Unity Party is going to run again this year? They had a couple decent Candidates and Policies if my Memory serves me correct.

[wum]

i was grabbing a bite to eat and woman walked up to my car asking me if i would be interested in helping with the elections. for one day's work i'm making 200 bux, w00t

[sidekick]

i'm with Simon on voting yes in the referendum thing. i'm totally down for that.

as for how i'm going to vote:

not impressed with the liberals or with gordon campbell. like everyone else, i believe they are going to win, but i haven't seen much impressive things come out of this government. i mean, sure the economy has improved, but i dunno if that's necessarily their doing.

green party, i agree with Lithe, is just a nice dream. i haven't done all the reading up i need to do yet to make a completely informed decision, however, the stuff i have seen is nice, but kind of 'out there'. maybe if we had unlimited funds we could pull of some of the things they are suggesting.

i'm probably going to vote NDP in this election. i like how they are more socially minded and are going to look into things like the privatization of health care and the tuition raises that the liberals have made. i don't really understand why they are planning to cut funding to the tourism industry, however.

[-ff-]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

green party, i agree with Lithe, is just a nice dream. i haven't done all the reading up i need to do yet to make a completely informed decision, however, the stuff i have seen is nice, but kind of 'out there'. maybe if we had unlimited funds we could pull of some of the things they are suggesting.

I'm with you on not voting green because it would be a waste of your vote (that is, until we get that dammned referendum passed!) But don't assume all of those policies are pipe dreams. A lot of them make tons of sense finanically (most people are actually surprised to find out that the Greens are for all intents and purposes fiscally conservative). The trick is 'green economics' which involves concepts like tax shifting where you remove corporate income tax, and replace it with a pollution tax that is calculated to bring in about the same amount of revenue, but is targeted at industries that pollute. If you do that, then you still have the same amount of money to play with, you encourage economic growth by lowering taxes for a lot of industries, and you create a financial incentive (and lets face it, money talks) for businesses that pollute to cut back their waste.

But yeah, don't vote for the greens this time if you're not happy with the liberals. This is a two horse race, so its pretty much about picking who you think to be the lesser of two evils.

I keep comming back to this, but that very fact is why we need to vote yes for STV, because if it passes, you can vote for whoever you damn well please without feeling like your vote gets wasted.

[Listening_room]

Originally Posted by -ff-

I'm with you on not voting green because it would be a waste of your vote (that is, until we get that dammned referendum passed!) But don't assume all of those policies are pipe dreams. A lot of them make tons of sense finanically (most people are actually surprised to find out that the Greens are for all intents and purposes fiscally conservative). The trick is 'green economics' which involves concepts like tax shifting where you remove corporate income tax, and replace it with a pollution tax that is calculated to bring in about the same amount of revenue, but is targeted at industries that pollute. If you do that, then you still have the same amount of money to play with, you encourage economic growth by lowering taxes for a lot of industries, and you create a financial incentive (and lets face it, money talks) for businesses that pollute to cut back their waste.

But yeah, don't vote for the greens this time if you're not happy with the liberals. This is a two horse race, so its pretty much about picking who you think to be the lesser of two evils.

I keep comming back to this, but that very fact is why we need to vote yes for STV, because if it passes, you can vote for whoever you damn well please without feeling like your vote gets wasted.

Yes, it's about time the greens get with the program.
Market forces are like the tides. No point in fighting them. It's far better to harness them.

[sidekick]

Originally Posted by -ff-

The trick is 'green economics' which involves concepts like tax shifting where you remove corporate income tax, and replace it with a pollution tax that is calculated to bring in about the same amount of revenue, but is targeted at industries that pollute. If you do that, then you still have the same amount of money to play with, you encourage economic growth by lowering taxes for a lot of industries, and you create a financial incentive (and lets face it, money talks) for businesses that pollute to cut back their waste.

yeah, that would be great since it would give big companies a reason to cut back on their pollution...but if the pollution tax is supposed to bring in as much money as the other tax that it replaced, then if the companies start lowering their pollution won't the government receive less in taxes? double-edged sword with that one, it seems.