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Old Apr 26, 05
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outdoor party

hey everyone,
i am planing to do an outdoor party similar to other outdoor events as far as profit sharing and ticketsales and so on. it would be a yearly event, hopefully like five stages or so. if your interested in putting up a stage please email me at [email protected]

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Old Apr 26, 05
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Sounds like a cool idea
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Old Apr 26, 05
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What are some other events you've thrown?
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Old Apr 26, 05
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my .02 cents.

Unless you're planning to get a venue like apex.. it'll never happen. In order to throw a massive rave like apex you need to be known for parties and have a reputation of not fucking people over.

If you plan to do it at a beach.. be very selective where you plan to have the venue. Beware of cops, neighbourhoods and HOVERCRAFTS (BP BEST PARTIES EVER!)
If you plan to do it in the woods somewhere.. you will most likely have to put up with campers and if a family is taking a nice camping trip somewhere and suddenly get hit with lazers and pumping electronic music.. Chances are.. they will call the cops.

putting on 5 stage outdoor parties will not be cheap.. sound, equipment rentals, the sound crashing you will most likely get (unless the venue is huge) . you'll most likely want to have security at a party that big. With the mixed crowds and the overuse of word to mouth advertising.. chances are there will be some fights. Being drunk, stoned, high, whatever in an unsupervised area where no one can hear screams and ambulances cant get to the venue.. You could have a very very very very bad reputation.

You need to take these things into consideration before even mentioning it. I can gurantee you.. 100% that this party wont be legal and if it does get busted.. way to ruin our already crappy scene.

still want to do it?
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Old Apr 26, 05
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I must say Im with Marty on this one..

While it would be nice to have it mess up could do a lot more worse then any good that would come out of it..
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Old Apr 27, 05
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i guess the question is:
Will it be legal or no?
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Old Apr 27, 05
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Sounds like a cool idea

Totally, that's why there's apex.


Now go get a more original idea :)
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Old Apr 27, 05
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Old Apr 27, 05
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Marty you deffenitely know what you are talking about...Apex is fun why do we need another party that will be pretty much the same by the sounds of it...
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Old Apr 27, 05
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Because everybody can throw 1000+ person parties in this city on the first go.

Good frikkin' luck.
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Old Apr 27, 05
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thanx

i ve been throwing partys for a year now, ive done apex and i have sob , bday, a.s.f.e, as well as some other small productions. its not as hard as youthink to throw a party and get away it especially outdoor.and how would it hurt the seen. for some reason if the cops were there and they siad hey this is not legal and it got shut . well then it got shut down no harm done.
besdie that who said it wouldnt be legal, and on that token this is still just and idea on the table to see who would be into something like this!! you guys r the reason there r no more outdoor partys. i have been in the seen many years , i used to go to a different outdoor party every weekend and yes some got shutdown but thats part of the game take the good with the bad and, thank the promoter tfor tryin to put on a good show,instead of puttin down a good idea. Success only comes to those who reach out and take.


i mean come people its a party think positive, maybe not be so scared and well quite frankly try !!! cuz you can!!!

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Old Apr 27, 05
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Hey bro... if you do it, I've got some idea's for ya.
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Old Apr 27, 05
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thanx

for those of you giving support thanx, and kraig i am always down for some ideas. i think we need more outdoor partys. they r the best kind
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Old Apr 27, 05
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well i erased the last one, oops.

but anywase ppcock obviously you dont know me, or have been to one my shows. i have always produced a quality show, and am yet to rip any one off let alone have a reputation for it. partys like this should be encourage instead of put down. who said this party wouldnt be legal, i mean put an idea on the table and have it just put down, people like you r the reason the seen is dying why you so scared, its just a party, i have been throwing raves prooblem free for a year now! all of my shows were successful, and i had alot of sound and no complaints. the problem with most partys is poor planning. and poor promoting.
i used to go to outdoor partys once a week and well yes some get shut down its a fact of life. you could be in your home and have your party shutdown, think about that.
and how would it affect the scen in a negative way, as far as planning a party using this succesful structure is the only fair way to have a multi stage and production company party . and if you think magic mountain or 2nasty or sunkissed was fun why wouldnt you want to go to 2 partys in the summer instead of one?

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Old Apr 27, 05
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I agree it's good to have more free parties during the summer, but I'm not sure about the scale, unless it's actually legal.

Since you've actually thrown a lot of small outdoor parties, then you would know that it's pretty easy for them to get busted, and by increasing the size to what your planning and still having it illegal is just asking for trouble. The cops are pretty lienient because the parties that are busted are pretty small.


PS when asking for support, don't spend most of the thread attack people for ruining the scene.
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Old Apr 27, 05
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and by increasing the size to what your planning and still having it illegal is just asking for trouble. The cops are pretty lienient because the parties that are busted are pretty small.
ruining the scene.


again who said this was illegal, its still an idea on the board why is ecvery one so critical these days!

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Old Apr 27, 05
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i think its a damn good idea. we need more outdoor parties in the summer.
i dont understand why everyone is bashing this idea without any knowledge whatsoever of how it will unfold. who cares if it's taking structure from apex? apex is a well established, SUCCESSFUL outdoor party, why wouldnt he want to use the same idea? maybe we should show some support and we'll have another annual outdoor party to have a good time at.

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Old Apr 27, 05
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Another outdoor party would b great. I'm sure if you get help from the right people it could go great. Do you have any ideas about where? When etc? It'll take a hell of a time to plan and summer is coming fast...better get on it chop chop
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Old Apr 27, 05
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and if you think apaex is fun why wouldnt you want to go to 2 in the summer instead of one?
you're right.. I dont know you and well i was just giving .2 cents, dont have to get your panties in a knot. Throw the party and then leave the scene if im right.

Anyways.. My first apex was last year and i've been to 20+ outdoor parties in my 6 years of being in the scene.

All small parties but best parties for sure.

I would say is think small dont think big. Throw smaller parties like ninjaboy, amber, jeff, etc do.
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again who said this was illegal, its still an idea on the board why is ecvery one so negative these days!
I'd be willing to help, but would like to know more info, such as do you have a venue/if not where do you plan on finding a legal outdoor venue?
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Old Apr 27, 05
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Hrm, outdoor parties can be extremely risky sometimes. All it can take is mother nature to run its course and either rain like a s.o.b or get high winds like today. Just picture a dj during his set and all of a sudden a gust of wind launches his vinyl right off the turntable and ends up hitting some candy kid in the head or hits the side of a speaker and gets a nice crack right through it.... Your probably not going to make any profit at all, infact its probably going to be a significant loss in any type of revenue.

I think what is comes down to is making a name for yourself before taking any steps to try and hold an outdoor event with multiple stages. Now I can't speak for the promoter's of Apex (swing kids), but what I do know is that they have been around almost forever and I do know that they have made a HUGE name for themselves and appears to have gotten the upmost support by other promoters and production companies out there. And even if mother nature takes its course on them at Apex sure they are not going to get the same crowd as if it were a nice day/night, but people will still show up regardless. At this point with the previous Apex venue's I don't think its a matter on whether if they "want" hold one year after year, its a matter that they "can".
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Old Apr 27, 05
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I think it is great that someone wants to do another outdoor party this summer, because quite frankly, there isn't enough. And although I am biased when I say this, why corner a market that has already been cornered? I miss the parties like Nasty, Magic Mountain and Summer Love. There is a serious lack of outdoor shows when there use to be one every second weekend. We currently have to wait for Apex for an outdoor show, and then Shambala, then nothing....

There is a lot, I mean a lot, did I say a lot?, of organization that comes with a show like Apex. Whether it be waiting for the deposit, getting the info for the flyer, stage placement, day of set up for a small financial return. Apex is not about the money, but about giving back for as cheap as we can make it. For the last 3 years we have had no more than 4000 in attendance, and when it comes to profit sharing, it isn't always the reward that most have hoped for after all the hard work is said and done.

Tony, if there was any advice I could give, it would be do it at the beginning of the summer, bring a headliner (because we don't have the luxury of big names at Apex) and do it up proper. With the lack of outdoor parties right now you could have me headline and have a good show.

And Bold - it isn't about can we do it, it is about want, and for some reason, I still want to!
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Old Apr 27, 05
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Because everybody can throw 1000+ person parties in this city on the first go.

Good frikkin' luck.
First go? Tony's been throwing parties for a little while now...
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Old Apr 27, 05
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OH NO ! who would want more outdoor raves?? geez how could you be so stupid! *negative negative**

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if you know what you are doin and you can pull it off i think that would be dope.
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Old Apr 27, 05
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