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Old Jun 10, 05
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Want good Gas Mileage

Got a cryo system this guy figured it out

http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?s=3390503
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That's pretty interesting, but what's the cost factor in doing it?
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Think it would work out to an extra 5 or 6 US + the metal becomes a wee bit brittle.
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Old Jun 10, 05
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That's really interesting... I wonder what the Physics behind it is.
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well from what I got from the website it hardens the metal and re aligns and slows down the movment of molecules making it smoother I would figure..
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Old Jun 11, 05
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aye, but with all your parts frozen wouldn't that lead to them shattering and such if you were to get into an accident?

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Old Jun 11, 05
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^*point!*

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Old Jun 11, 05
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aye, but with all your parts frozen wouldn't that lead to them shattering and such if you were to get into an accident?

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Well on the site I found this at this was asked and your parts arnt kept frozen but by freezing them you change the molecular structure. They use it in Nascar so I cant see it being a massive problem..
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Old Jun 11, 05
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solution for everyone: drive a diesel.
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Old Jun 11, 05
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Diesels are more expensive otherwise more people would I suspect.
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Old Jun 11, 05
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Actually, Diesel is cheaper. The cost vehicle-wise has been artifically inflated because manufacturers know that Diesel is cheaper so they charge more. But actually the cost to make one is the same. The only real difference between a Diesel Engine and a Gas one is that the Diesel has Glow Plugs and a way higher Compression Ratio.
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Old Jun 11, 05
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exactly but people see the initial price and hum and haw about it thats what I meant ya asshat..
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Old Jun 11, 05
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^ There was no hum haw for me! I walked in wanting diesel and apparently so many other ppl had, they had no 2004's (autos) left when I went in (sept '04). Grabbed me one of the first 6 2005's from the lot and have been reaping the benefits of that 30%*+ better fuel efficiency since. Ya, it costs $1400 more initially for the diesel engine, but you save in the end. Go team TDI!

However, diesel is better for commuters than for ppl who just bop around town. Too many short trips (under 20min) doesnt allow the deisel to full burn enough and it hangs around and builds up.

*I don't remember where in my research and test-driving I got this figure, but that's what I recall. I haven't actually done the math for this car to my old car/other cars in the same class as the Jetta.

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Old Jun 11, 05
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I know my next car shall be a TDi
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diesels are loud... and smell funny... and dont rev fast
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^ That's only the older ones. The new German Turbo Diesels rev up quite a bit, don't need to pre-heat and actually have some decent power. :)
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Old Jun 12, 05
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Yah dood, I used to have a monster Diesel Van back in the day... Diesels own... Besides that "funny" sound is beautiful, diesels (well the old ones) just sound so nice and powerful just raw torque :D



this is kinda what it looked like... Akeelio

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Old Jun 12, 05
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i hope you spray painted "free candy" on the side?

you could molest soo many kiddies in one of those things.
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Old Jun 12, 05
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*sigh* yeah :( they never would help me find my puppy :)

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Old Jun 13, 05
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solution for everyone: drive a diesel.
omg no!
diesel as better as they're nowadays
still emmit more pollution and particulates.
if ur a diesel driver as of now,
ur NOT environmentally friendly in terms of emmissions.
not until about 2009 must all diesel vehicles meet more stringent standards.

in california where polution standards are high,
u cannot buy many diesel models of passenger cars
simply because they do NOT meet emissions standards.

so yah, ur getting more miles to the gallon,
but ur doing it at the expense of the enviroment.
this is especially true if u do alot of stop and go city drivin
where diselmobiles belch out alot of soot.
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Old Jun 13, 05
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^ At the rate that our planet is going, i think you need to focus more of your energy at the big picture.
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Old Jun 13, 05
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i wonder how much it would cost if you did this part by part on a regular gas engine and if it would be worth it....
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Old Jun 13, 05
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^ At the rate that our planet is going, i think you need to focus more of your energy at the big picture.
do you even know what you're talking about? you're basically saying, fight the big companies/polluters, but waste all you want. do you know what a hypocrite is?
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Old Jun 14, 05
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omg no!
diesel as better as they're nowadays
still emmit more pollution and particulates.
if ur a diesel driver as of now,
ur NOT environmentally friendly in terms of emmissions.
not until about 2009 must all diesel vehicles meet more stringent standards.

in california where polution standards are high,
u cannot buy many diesel models of passenger cars
simply because they do NOT meet emissions standards.

so yah, ur getting more miles to the gallon,
but ur doing it at the expense of the enviroment.
this is especially true if u do alot of stop and go city drivin
where diselmobiles belch out alot of soot.

Its called Bio Diesel.
It's renewable, low on pollution and your diesel engine requires no modification to use it.

Petro diesel may be more polluting than gasoline, but last time I checked, there is no equivilant fuel for gasoline engines, unless your willing to undergo a bunch of conversion.
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Old Jun 15, 05
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solution for everyone: drive a diesel.
solution for everyone.. and the planet... don't drive!
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