i could be really really stupid but someone please help me to understand!

[Gilkayo]

i know its been said over and over again.
this war between sterotypical "junglist" and "kande kids"
it makes me sooo sick.
hmmm its hard for me to understand the concept of this all..ok i really never got it.
before i came here it never really matter but this cowboys and indian thing its just dumb..its discrimination!
i know that no everyone is going to like everyone in this world but who are you to judge someone you havent even talked to?!
why dont you look at the person for who they are instead of putting up a wall.
i hate it that people look at me becaue i like to wear kande and listen to jungle. it hurts that some people are SO stuck in thier little useless world that they wont open up and see people for who they really are and NOT what they are wearing or listening to.
RESPECT! is something we should all live by.
we have to remeber that we all come together as a people we UNITE as one for the same reason and the same passion for music...even if the gnere isnt the same.
theres LOVE and PEACE in everyone....its your to share.

hmm this should be in grip-a-thon sorry.

[bob]

u haven't lived on this planet for too long, have you?

people are always gonna be ignorant.
don't bother trying to change them. just stomp them until they lose the ability to do anything.

or

stay indoors.

[MC Hammered]

It is easier to make an assumption about someone than to take the time and effort to try and make an educated decision.

I feel that the segregation has to do with the insecurity of some people and their need to feel superior and there is always the 'need to be in the in crowd' mentality as well.

I know lots of people that go out of their way in order to say to me 'I make $$$$ now. How much do you make? I make more?'.

When I was younger and much more stupid I used all of the wrong things to gauge my success. Wealth, toys, clothes, etc. Now when I look at it, I was pretty dumb and trying to make amends.

One has to go out into the real world and see that what we have should not be taken for granted and then the sterotypes and discrimination would subside a bit.

What really opened my eyes was when I went to Mexico for the first time. I took a vacation because I thought I was getting ripped off and not being paid my fair value.

I go on this trip and see people working 12 hour shifts in the hot sun, others living in poverty, kids running around in rags. I felt like such a dumbass for griping about what I couldn't get instead of seeing that I should have been thanking for what I had.

I re-evaluated myself and my life and now I am the way I am. I am happy I can live in this country, that I have a job, that I have family and friends, that I don't have to worry about what to do in order to feed myself. I am fucking happy just to have clean water to drink!

Now this reply might have been a bit off topic, but I feel that kids nowadays make quick judgements due to lack of intelligence and more importantly lack of understanding of exactly what they have in hand. They whine and get what they want without ever working for it. They are spoiled and think that they are better than the treatment they receive.

If this doesn't change I feel sorry for you generation.

[oliver]

Originally posted by Gilkayo
i know its been said over and over again.
this war between sterotypical "junglist" and "kande kids"
it makes me sooo sick.
hmmm its hard for me to understand the concept of this all..ok i really never got it.
before i came here it never really matter but this cowboys and indian thing its just dumb..its discrimination!
i know that no everyone is going to like everyone in this world but who are you to judge someone you havent even talked to?!
why dont you look at the person for who they are instead of putting up a wall.
i hate it that people look at me becaue i like to wear kande and listen to jungle. it hurts that some people are SO stuck in thier little useless world that they wont open up and see people for who they really are and NOT what they are wearing or listening to.
RESPECT! is something we should all live by.
we have to remeber that we all come together as a people we UNITE as one for the same reason and the same passion for music...even if the gnere isnt the same.
theres LOVE and PEACE in everyone....its your to share.

hmm this should be in grip-a-thon sorry.

People like to classify other people for the same reason that we classify music. It allows one to label someone, and then know how they feel towards that person by their label, rather than having to go through the process of evaluating them for themselves.

There is a vast segment (if not the majority) of the population that is truly closed minded and lazy, and really not that bright. Labeling is a result of, and propagated by that mindset.

Yah, i know it is frustrating to have people judge you by your appearence, but I don't see that method of socializing changing in the near future. Raves at least should be a place where this attitude isn't present, but it is, and I am not sure how to go about changing it, or if it can be changed.

When people give you dirty looks for being a kande junglist :500: the only thing you can do is just ignore that attitude and try to have a smile on your face. :)

[kiMMie]

It's a little depressing reading your post, but I see where you're coming from. Too bad after years and years of this "discrimination", people still don't wanna change their ways. I guess it's been passed down for so long for society to judge people through race, and background, or in your case, the type of clothes or music that they listen to, that it's become some sort of *bad* habit.

I don't know when, or if this will ever been solved, but I hope it does... soon. My opinion, don't waste your time explaining to them who you are, cuz they obviously didn't take their time to get to know you. Be yourself and feel happy for who you truly are. :Kimmie:

[Gilkayo]

Originally posted by Junglet

When people give you dirty looks for being a kande junglist :500: the only thing you can do is just ignore that attitude and try to have a smile on your face. :)

one of my main problems was that i think becase of what people say alot of people feel that they cant dress the way they like if they go to parties because they will be labled something they are not.its the same in real life.
i went throught a stage where i didnt party i didnt want to be associated with it and still..even though the only thing i listened to was punk they still called me a "raver"
it hurts when people put lables on you..i dont think it should fucking matter if im fucking purple..unless you know me or my friends then dont fucking look at me like you do...bah!!

[Gilkayo]

BTW this post all came about from a post from jibjib in the music section.....

[wigglesworth]

Sound bombing was hilarious. I remember one guy. He bumped into me upstairs, and then started staring me down. During Flave's set, this same young rudabagger yelled out, "BO BO BO!"
This is why "junglists" get stereotyped. Idiots like thay guy.

Jungle is awsome music. Probably my favorite most of the time. But all the other genre's are awsome too. Some have more crap then others, but there's still plenty of good stuff left.
Close-minded ppl suck.

[oddmud2]

You wanna know what it is?

PEOPLE TRYING TOO HARD.

I hate people that try too hard. I wanna smack'em.

:BOB:

[SEAN!]

Originally posted by oddmud
You wanna know what it is?

PEOPLE TRYING TOO HARD.

I hate people that try too hard. I wanna smack'em.

:BOB:

word try hards suck.

close minded ignorant people suck worse...people with attitudes like that are just insecure, and need to make fun of other people so they feel better about themselves..

yea

[inkster]

"Junglists" are dumb.

Ignore them.

Or better yet, laugh at them. They're fools.

][nkster

[dj4mula]

If you say you listen to jungle u are sometimes automatically presummed to be some angry person who goes BO BO BO!. It's just like when you say u listen to rap and your automatically presummed to be trying to be black.

crackfiend said close minded ignorant people suck worse...people with attitudes like that are just insecure, and need to make fun of other people so they feel better about themselves..

U pretty much summed it up.

[Gilkayo]

what about just not labeling anyone as anything?
that would work wouldnt it?

[inkster]

Originally posted by Gilkayo
what about just not labeling anyone as anything?
that would work wouldnt it?

It's hard to do that when people label themselves.

Especially in this case.. :P

][nkster

[Gilkayo]

i know caues even i do it.

[crookedking]

whenever i go to a party i dress like a king...what does that label me as?

[inkster]

a queen.

][nkster

[crookedking]

Originally posted by inkster
a queen.

][nkster

but i have a penis

[justin]

Originally posted by crookedking


but i have a penis

so do drag queens

[crookedking]

Originally posted by NeMeSiS


so do drag queens

yes but i dress up as a king...not a queen.
by all the good Gods above, must everything be pointed out to you people¿

[SomeGuy]

We're all ravers and that's the cool thing.. RAVERS come in different assortments, the trance fiends, house luvas, junglist, D'n'B cru, Garage, Hard House, Breakerz, it's all in one place, A RAVE!! so no matter what happens in this world there will alway's be stereotypes floating around, you can't have all these different unique people in one room together and expect it to be peaceful. Everyone listens to music for a different reason, and everyone likes different music, and most people think the music they listen to is 'Tha Shit' and if you don't listen to the same stuff as them your a loser. So don't worry about what those stupid pecker heads think, in my opinion, why worry about what people think of you? who gives a shit, the only person that you spend your hole life with is YOU! so your opinion of yourself is the ONLY one that matters. My matto(maddo) I dunno how you spell it.. well it's.. "be nice to everyone and fuck what the world thinks of you as long as your happy with yourself" Hopefully that helps Gikayo..

And yes I do care what friends and family think of me, I'm not some totally careless asshole.

[Gilkayo]

it helps ya...i just dont understand why people care that much?
yes we are all ravers and no one can expect everyone to look the same and feel the same way about everything.
it just pisses me off cause theres so many good people out there and everyone chooses to put up a wall because of a stereotype.
it hurts that people think im bitter and that i do drugs because i choose to look a certin way or dress a certin way.
it hurts that they look down on me in discust if i dress any other way.
if i choose to wear plastic beads over wooden.
its true too and ive been hurt alot of times because people will talk to my friends but not to me because were not dressed the same...a great example was me on halloween at chubby luv..i dressed up, my friend didnt and i almost got my ass kicked.
i had to leave the party because i was upset at another person..i waited outside so nothing would happen for almost an hr!

[BB_YungYung]

Why can't we all just get along?

:BB: You know I love you all.. heheheh