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Old Sep 02, 05
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Kanye west on hurricane relief shown on cnbc

randomly turning the channel and seeing mike myers and kanye west on the tv together and after mike myers heartfelt speech kanye says

"George bush doesnt care about black people"

then they cut to chris tucker, fucked up 20 second bit of tv
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Old Sep 03, 05
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I fucking love Kanye.
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Old Sep 03, 05
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Old Sep 03, 05
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Old Sep 03, 05
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the white man created aids to keep the black man down.
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Old Sep 03, 05
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ya i saw that on tv it kinda suprised me
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Old Sep 03, 05
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I also like Kanye, but that was soooooo awkward. The look on Chris Tucker's face when they cut to him is fucking priceless.
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Old Sep 03, 05
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Now kanye is gonna die in a week in a "Gang shooting".
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Old Sep 03, 05
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i heard on the news that kanye is getting shipped back to africa.
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Old Sep 03, 05
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bwhahah that was priceless
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Old Sep 03, 05
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I can confirm this romour..
My dads co-workers sister worked behind the scene for last nights fundraiser..

Poor guy is getting sent back to Africa

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Old Sep 03, 05
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Now kanye is gonna die in a week in a "Gang shooting".

exactly my thoughts....
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Old Sep 03, 05
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george bush works for his constituents.

this is not a a race issue, its classism. it's a stewardess serving champagne to first class while everyone in coach wants their peanuts. trying to say this was a concious effort to keep a minority down is a disservice to the entire relief effort. i don't think anyone thought about this until it was too late, and if they did, it wasnt judged important enough to put effort into.

americans in poverty are not part of this economic equation. money is invested to reap returns, not to create a larger welfare state. these people, black and white, were unfortunately left off the radar. i suppose it's up to the individual to determine whether this is right or wrong.
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Old Sep 03, 05
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george bush works for his constituents.

this is not a a race issue, its classism. it's a stewardess serving champagne to first class while everyone in coach wants their peanuts. trying to say this was a concious effort to keep a minority down is a disservice to the entire relief effort. i don't think anyone thought about this until it was too late, and if they did, it wasnt judged important enough to put effort into.

americans in poverty are not part of this economic equation. money is invested to reap returns, not to create a larger welfare state. these people, black and white, were unfortunately left off the radar. i suppose it's up to the individual to determine whether this is right or wrong.

Hi everyone read this.

Just because Kanye said it doesn't mean it's not completely fucking stupid.

While all these people are sitting around whining about race this and race that and this is what is wrong with everything, they could be proactive and help out or devise better solutions.

A professional football player from the Atlanta Falcons went on the news and instead of pulling the race card, he told every professional football player to donate $5000 to the red cross, etc. That is proactive.

The time to reflect on everything and criticize everything can come later, for now, these people who are affected need action, they need help. Why doesn't Kanye go right to where it's bad and help some people out?
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Old Sep 03, 05
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^^ Bullshit.
The US gov't knew for a WEEK that the hurricane was headed straight for New Orleans and they did NOTHING in advance.
Pick up a copy of today's Vancouver Sun - 4 years ago there was a documentary done that predicted this entire problem.

IMO, if the US gov't kept it's effing troops where they belong and OUT of countries like Iraq they would have enough manpower to remedy this situation. Alas, Bush is a fucking idiot, so no such luck for the citizens of New Orleans.
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Old Sep 03, 05
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but that is an issue of poor planning on his part, not of 'race'.
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Old Sep 03, 05
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Just because Kanye said it doesn't mean it's not completely fucking stupid.
haha, word. actually i think it makes it more likely to be stupid. he's a rapper, not an academic. he's not exactly someone "in the know".
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Old Sep 03, 05
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A professional football player from the Atlanta Falcons went on the news and instead of pulling the race card, he told every professional football player to donate $5000 to the red cross, etc. That is proactive.
My problem with this is the fact that when something happens like a hurricane or tsunami we're all supposed to pitch in and help - Celine Dion, Puffy/JayZ donate $1 million - but the fact that approx 1/3 of the world's population lives in constant poverty can be overlooked on a daily basis.

The US gov't should pick up the tab for the relief efforts. If they didn't spend so much goddamn money on their military they might actually have some left over for emergencies.

As for everyone else who's donating money - ever think of sponsoring a child? Donating to charities like World Vision?
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Old Sep 03, 05
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but that is an issue of poor planning on his part, not of 'race'.
My reply was for fritz, not you missy! <3
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Old Sep 03, 05
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The US gov't should pick up the tab for the relief efforts. If they didn't spend so much goddamn money on their military they might actually have some left over for emergencies.
Yeah, but the idea with such high military spending is to have it ready for real
military emergencies. Full scale war with China,N Korea ect ect
Countries like China are working hard to "increase" their military spending to a degree where they can be on par with the U.S

I'm just saying, there are a lot of sharks out there and countries have to be ready to deal with them.
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Old Sep 03, 05
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If the Americans didn't step on so many toes in the first place they would have a lot less to worry about in this dept.

You know, 'cause Iraq was suuuuuuch an emergency, what with all those weapons of mass destruction!
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Old Sep 03, 05
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^^ Bullshit.
The US gov't knew for a WEEK that the hurricane was headed straight for New Orleans and they did NOTHING in advance.
Pick up a copy of today's Vancouver Sun - 4 years ago there was a documentary done that predicted this entire problem.

IMO, if the US gov't kept it's effing troops where they belong and OUT of countries like Iraq they would have enough manpower to remedy this situation. Alas, Bush is a fucking idiot, so no such luck for the citizens of New Orleans.
This is what I was referring to. There is a fine balance between expansion and prevention. Cost-analysis is done on establishing an infrastructure of prevention for emergencies such as these. It seems a fair guess to say that the money/manpower needed was instead put into the expansion of democracy and stabilization of the middle east.

My main point, to clarify, was that this is not a race issue, but one of economics. Whether or not the issue was accidentaly overlooked or intentionally ignored is a much more difficult question.

I would hazard a little bit of both. That is, officials probably thought it wouldn't be as bad as it turned out to be, but also underestimated the outrage that followed. The former is probably related to things such as the increased residence on formerly unpopulated outskirts and the levee breaking. The latter probably because of declining govt approval ratings, and polarization due to racial issues being raised.

Personally I think everyone is really scared of dying lately.
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Old Sep 03, 05
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^ Or, to put it another way, scared to face up to the end of an era in which we could distance ourself from the spectre of death and tragedy.
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Old Sep 04, 05
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haha, ummm... and people say white people are racist, shit like this just perpetuates(i dont even know if this is the right word lol) racism. I dont respect racists, and now im pretty sure kanye west is racist.
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Old Sep 04, 05
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Yeah, but the idea with such high military spending is to have it ready for real
military emergencies. Full scale war with China,N Korea ect ect
Countries like China are working hard to "increase" their military spending to a degree where they can be on par with the U.S

I'm just saying, there are a lot of sharks out there and countries have to be ready to deal with them.
So what your saying is you believe that another arms race along with reduced liberties are the solutions for security? Some political scientists believed that the world was actually safer during the cold war era because of mutual assered destruction. The world now would be moving from unilateral into multilateral. Which is far more dangerous because the US isn't gonna let go of its leverage and deterance advantages easily. Once those barriers are broken China can do whatever it wants, i.e Taiwan.

The US spends so much on it's own interests in other places, while they can't even fix the social problems in their own country or provide proper aid for this disaster.
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