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Old Oct 14, 05
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MUCH RESPECT:for lower mainland high school students!

After getting out of class, i decided to kill some time at the chapters off broadway and granville. I friend gave me a lift up their, and to may utter amazement i saw a large gathering of high school students demonstrating in support of BC TEACHERS!! I was also pleased to see fellow MAWO crew, showing support, so after quite a large bender at chapters, i joined the demonstration and really all i can say is that im proud of all the students who were involved, and quite impressed. The energy was electric, the masses (probably close to 200 people!) were aranged around all four corners of the intersection, and the sounds system was set up in front of Chapters. I was amazed by how it was organized so fast, and profesionally.

The popular negetive opinion would probably be something akin to "bah, its just a bunch of kids dancing around and goofing off" and really all i can reply to is that INSPITE of a stereotype about high school kids taking a vacation during strike time, they mobilized, communicated and voiced both their demands and support for their teachers!!

This strike action may be described as a negetive as it is breaking the law. But what is the law? Who is it supposed to protect, and represent? Who are the people that are actaully being protected by such legislature, and who are the ones who are having their right to demand a specific work environment squashed, and subsequently exploited. Currently the provincial government is not setting out fines, rather they are FREEZING UNION ASSETS, thus striking workers will recieve NO STRIKE PAY, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THIS VERY MONEY BELONGS TO THE TEACHERS THAT POOL IT TOGETHER!?!

I want to that asides from MAWO support, you have my personal support. All yall showed character, heart, and such an amazing energy, that i am still feeling it now!!

if victoria happens on monday, i hope i get the privilage to meet more you all!

keep it up!
much respect

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Old Oct 15, 05
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whoa......yer last names almost lohan.....

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Old Oct 15, 05
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Yes i saw this demonstration when i was on the bus and was impressed as well.
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I was at ICBC yesterday, and overheard a woman bitching about the teachers strike. She said she was pissed because these supposed role models were teaching her kids not to break the law, and then doing it themselves. And she now had to deal with back talk from her child. I was just frustrated, because as a parent you are a teacher too of sorts. And you should be able to sit down with your kids (granted at a certain age that they can grasp the concept) and explain the difference between breaking the law, and standing up to change things that are not in the best interest of the public.

It's stupid when parents think that teachers should be doing everything to further their kids education, and then shitting on them when they stand up for their own rights. If you really want the best opportunity for your kids, then you should understand that someone in an over stuffed class, is probably not going to give your child the time he needs either. Because they have so many other children’s needs to meet as well.

I think it was good that the kids were actually taking a stand in this, and showing maturity towards the situation. I think some of the parents should give their head a shake, and get out there with them. I think people need to remember that all of us are trying to promote education. And teachers want quality not quantity in the class. Which I think is what most people can agree on.
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Old Oct 15, 05
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well said! - if you ever get in a situation about "teachers breaking the law" - ask them the following?

Who is the law supposed to protect?

What was the law broken and who was it protecting?

its not ignorant kids we need to watch out for, its the parents.

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Old Oct 15, 05
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if i can afford it i will certainly send my children to private school.


the public sector unions in this province can suck my dick.
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Old Oct 15, 05
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Much respect for the teachers...

Yeah, much respect for the teachers who have had to put up with our governments bull-shit antics.

I say, put all the MLA,SSES in restraints, and get the kids to throw dog shit in their faces, while we read books to them.
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Old Oct 15, 05
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Originally Posted by SEAN!
if i can afford it i will certainly send my children to private school.


the public sector unions in this province can suck my dick.
HA! thats funny i just finished asking what your stance is on the current situation on the other thread.

So you belive that it is the unions that are actaully the victimizers and the government the victims?

Do you belive that inspite of the fact that between the major unions who were on job action, are on job or threatening job action, in the midst of economic hardship, enduring massive negetive stigmantation + media misrepresentation, and yet still have majority of support from the general population, that Union as a whole are corrupt, self serving, and have no valid reason to strike?

What do you belive is the reason behind the various job actions taken by the HEU, TWU, and the BCTF as well as solidarity being shown by CUPE and the BCNU then?

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Old Oct 15, 05
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I find it funny that 3 different provincial governments have ordered the teachers back to class in the past decade thats what I find funny.
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I find it funny that 3 different provincial governments have ordered the teachers back to class in the past decade thats what I find funny.
I feel it is disheartenng, but then that would be a stereotypical tactic to be employed by government that would seek to oppress specific groups of the population.

Im sure you were being sarcastic, but the sentiment is somewhat sick.

Do believe that this is representative of the BCTF being insolent and ignorant, or that the perhaps the government is intolerant of union action and perpetually seeks to undermine its importance by legislature that gives no real oppotunity for oppressed groups to demand specific rights?

Im not completely positive, im am still currently researching but at the moment it seems like the the fact that the teachers have been ordered back and have complied has little to do with their own belief of their struggles, and more to do with Union leadership. Im also somewhat under the idea that the teachers never were given any sort of raise nor was any consensus reached towards enacting a system of halting the growth of class size, and materials funding.

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