drinking & driving

[PsyTrance4Life]

i was wondering how do you manage to get home safely after a club/rave night?

there are a lot of roadchecks during this session so be safe and careful

[mindgurl]

umm it's called DD

we take turns

though i have only done it once since june LOL

however, i have issues with people who drink excessively and drive. this is due to the fact my dad's best friend's wife was killed last 1.5 years ago at 3pm in the afternoon by a drunk driver.

[ja_raul]

haha, this poll is funny. i voted "i drive carefully"

as opposed to anytime im NOT driving back from a club, where im driving recklessly

also, why would they make roadchecks that are easily avoidable?

i went through a roadcheck once with a few friends, it totally caught us off guard, and we were sort of scared of getting stopped and pulled over, but we ended up getting missed through the whole check, the cops were checkin every car but i guess they just miscommunicated about which cars had been checked, so we just drove right through. man was i relieved.

[acidic_liquid]

Can't we all just stop drinking and driving?

It's not "fun" nor "cool." I don't see why people have to do it. Find a DD, take a cab, bus home, sleep over at someone else's house. There are many ways to get around it. It's not necessary. If you live far away and absolutely have to drive home, then at least hang around downtown and sober up.

Why do some people ignore the drinking and driving horror stories? Are they in a state of disbelief and need for something bad to happen to them before they realize how stupid it is?

[Kandyapple]

I don't drive when going out drinking. Or if I have had a drink I will wait a reasonable amount of time before getting behind the wheel. I usualy get a ride home from the club though. I don't think I could live with myself if I was the cause of an accident, because I decided to be an idiot and get behind the wheel when drunk. Who cares about getting caught. I think roadchecks are good.

[mindgurl]

Originally Posted by acidic_liquid

Are they in a state of disbelief and need for something bad to happen to them before they realize how stupid it is?

or someone they love :(



cab, skytrain, and another cab.


weeeeeeeeeeeee

[fable]

At one point a few years back it was reported that the lower mainland had the highest rate of drinking and driving related deaths in the entire world.

Im not to sure about the truth of this statement but i grew up in a large cirlce of friends, where drinking and driving was as common as well drinking or driving! Atleast 30 of my close friends have been in accidents, and the number of people with dui's is almost the same. I got in a very serious accident a while back, flipping my car over 6 times, and walking out with a chip fracture in my neck and some torn ligaments in my knee. I remember being in traction at Royal Columbian, having to piss in a bottle! There was no charges laid against me, and the insurance coverage was comperable. I remember a nurse coming up to me while half coscious in traction and whispering in my ears, for quite some time in an extremely intense voice telling me how lucky i was, that my blood alcohol level was close to .27, and started ranting about what if i hit someone. She scared the living shit out of me, and had all the right to do so!!!

Its seems just so automatic and easy for people to do, It never hits home until someone dies, these days. Perhaps having later skytrains, would help, but realistically i dont see this having a major impact.

I know its somewhat hypocritical to say, in light of my past run ins with drinking and driving or letting others do so, but i think the only solution at this point is really throwing the book at offenders?!?

Anyways, i hope everyone's got a safe ride home locked on newyears, it always helps to plan in advance. Debauchery=good, debauchery followed by driving=dead.

[esoter1c]

Drinking and Driving is fucking ignorant.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by acidic_liquid

Can't we all just stop drinking and driving?

It's not "fun" nor "cool." I don't see why people have to do it. Find a DD, take a cab, bus home, sleep over at someone else's house. There are many ways to get around it. It's not necessary. If you live far away and absolutely have to drive home, then at least hang around downtown and sober up.

Why do some people ignore the drinking and driving horror stories? Are they in a state of disbelief and need for something bad to happen to them before they realize how stupid it is?

I think that most people really believe they have driving down pat, like it's like riding a bicycle and you either get it or you don't. Some people truthfully drink and drive all the time and feel like they have mastered it. It's pretty baffling to me, but then again I have no experience doing it, so I'm not really in the place to say shit.

I believe that a lot of people really feel like if they're not 'stupid' about it nothing is ever going to happen to them, not even realizing that driving drunk is stupid and incredibly selfish.


The truth is, everybody in their life WILL be affected by drunk driving, it may not be them personally, it may be someone in their family, a friend, a coworker or a close acquantience. I've recently had to say goodbye to an old friend and it was really the first time I've really been affected by it, and it was hard to deal with because it was a split second decision for him and only 10 minutes earlier rejected a ride home from someone who wasn't drinking. I feel awful about his death and that his family had to say goodbye to him at such a young age, but I also feel really bad for the driver, a good friend of his that will have to live with one stupid decision for the rest of his life.


And yeah, if you can afford to go to the club, you can AFFORD A CAB RIDE HOME.

[fable]

And yeah, if you can afford to go to the club, you can AFFORD A CAB RIDE HOME.

AMEN!

[Bitchin]

anyone that drinks and drives....

deserves to die.

fucking idiots.

[Technix]

Drinking and driving is a stupid thing to do.

If I'm driving, I play designate and rotate with buddies.

It's the smart thing to do.

[fable]

anyone that drinks and drives....
deserves to die.
fucking idiots.

hmm since you decided to pull out the "who deserves to die card" i too will join in the hatefest:

my current list:

10.) the evil empire aka bushy jr + sr, dick cheney, donald rumsfield, condaleeza rice, paul wolfwawitz, and whoevers heading the pentagon these days

11) the evil empire (playschool edition) aka paul martin, pierre pettigrew, bill graham, rick hillier

12) every single member of the US and Canadian military lobby

13) the fundementalist christian right lobby

14) the zionist lobby

15) ariel sharon (why did it have to be just a stroke!?!?!?)

well thats my hate list @ the moment. Save the critisism, i already know.

[Haze]

What I don't get is why the skytrain doesn't run past club hours, I think that it would greatly reduce the amount of people that are drinking and driving; One point that I can think of money to run it of course... Perhaps though is the Gov. gave some aid to the skytrain it would be able to reduce amounts of $$ put towards having the sheer man power at roadblocks and cruising about looking for drunk drivers and the mayhem they cause when they do eventually hit someone or something.

- ë

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by Etard

i was wondering how do you manage to get home safely after a club/rave night?

there are a lot of roadchecks during this session so be safe and careful

I voted to avoid road check points. I usually have one beer early in the eve, and then am sober by the time I leave...technically, depending on your body type, one beer in your system won't get you drunk and you can still pass the breathalyzer test :) But usually I'd be the DD cuz alcohol costs too much money :(

[LeeBrat]

when ever i go to a club/rave/party I'm DD, I enjoy partying sober so it doesnt bother me. Occasionaly ill drink, but when i do, I only have one or 2 throught the whole night, and ill also drink lots of water.
Its just not worth it to me to loose my licence, or worse, have an accident and have someone killed, plus its healthier :)

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by fable

hmm since you decided to pull out the "who deserves to die card" i too will join in the hatefest:

my current list:

10.) the evil empire aka bushy jr + sr, dick cheney, donald rumsfield, condaleeza rice, paul wolfwawitz, and whoevers heading the pentagon these days

11) the evil empire (playschool edition) aka paul martin, pierre pettigrew, bill graham, rick hillier

12) every single member of the US and Canadian military lobby

13) the fundementalist christian right lobby

14) the zionist lobby

15) ariel sharon (why did it have to be just a stroke!?!?!?)

well thats my hate list @ the moment. Save the critisism, i already know.

don't forget Gordon Campbell :mexitoke:

[Vitamin-X]

Breezing through this I get the impression that only one side of this issue is actually posting.

Seriously everytime I drove to after hours I had about six people in my car.
They could have cared less if I was drunk or sober they just wanted get rolling.
It's not just the driver who says yes and supports the action, it's also his
passengers.

[fable]

Originally Posted by Antenna_Boy

don't forget Gordon Campbell :mexitoke:

for being the figure head of the fight to destroy the UNION, as part of a greater plan to undermine and dissolve workers rights in this country, then i might say fuck yeah, but i think people would rather keep him alive, opting to rather force him to work as porn shop janitor, getting paid the "training wage" for the rest of his fucking life.

[Antenna_Boy]

^Make it Glen Clarke then :mexitoke:

[Lil Jenna]

Originally Posted by cinist

that's a fairly bold statement to make. how many times have you taken a ride from a drunk driver? probably a lot of us have.

i think the passengers are as guilty as the drivers

We dont agree on a lot of things but I think that passengers ARE just as gulity.

[acidic_liquid]

I agree. I would never get in a car knowing the driver was intoxicated. And I would do everything in my power to not let anyone else on, if not convincing the guy not to drive.

I'm not sure if we have it here, but my friend works for Keys, Please in Alberta (I think) and it's a service where they take your car and give you a ride home and they drive your car there as well. I think it's an excellent idea.

[fable]

They have that here in vancouver as well, and from the opinions that i have heard, it seems like a very convenient service.

[Antenna_Boy]

Drinking and driving is bad...see picture below:

[Lil Jenna]

Originally Posted by cinist

you had to get a clue sometime :P

Is had nothing to do with me "getting a clue" Shannon. :p





Coming from a person who drinks and drives quite a bit. Funny. When are you going to get a clue.... :)