PENDULUM leaving BREAKBEAT KAOS!?!? SCANDAL!!

[dabbler]

quote: Originally posted by anscenic pendulum
just gotta clear this up:

a) We had no prior knowledge of the release of this CD. The first we heard of it was on discussion forums linking it to the product being sold in shops.
b) We mixed the CD back in mid-2004 - therefore the mix, as well as our tracks included on the second disc, do not reflect the Pendulum sound of today (for better or worse, thats up to you ;])
c) We never intended nor agreed to release 'Masochist VIP' - I did it in about 30 minutes as something special to play out at a show. It was only given to Fresh and Adam F in low quality mp3 format for them to play out as DJ's - not to be released.
d) We didn't approve and in fact strongly disapprove of the 'Junglesound Gold' artwork, especially in relation to our name being unfairly used as an advertisement - obviously in an attempt to link 'Junglesound Gold' to the recent success of 'Hold Your Colour'.

As a result of the above, we do not endorse 'Junglesound Gold' at all.

- Pendulum.

[dabbler]

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[b0ld]

heh will this be the end of bbk now?

seriously fuckin gay who ever is responsible for this...

[Akeel]

so what does this mean exactly?

[b0ld]

Originally Posted by Akeel

so what does this mean exactly?

looks like Pendulum is going to be leaving Break Beat Kaos and be forming there own label

[dabbler]

they already were gonna do their own label as well, but they have removed their BBK avatars from their DOA profiles.....

[b0ld]

Originally Posted by dabbler

they already were gonna do their own label as well, but they have removed their BBK avatars from their DOA profiles.....

Might wanna change your sig... :P

[Akeel]

oh no!

removal of avatars....its the apocalypse!

[FeelGood]

Originally Posted by Akeel

oh no!

removal of avatars....its the apocalypse!

hahaha.
i was about to say something along the same lines.

[inside]

funny how this shit goes down.

[dabbler]

Originally Posted by Akeel

oh no!

removal of avatars....its the apocalypse!

considering they are exlusively BBK under contract, and they are pretty much the flagship artists, it's the only obvious sign that it's not a joke. and still no comment from fresh

[dabbler]

i think its good tho, every music label pulls this stuff, and airing it publicly is the only way it might stop.

[b0ld]

Should make a t-shirt that says "I ordered Masochist VIP from Breakbeat Kaos and all I got was this fuckin t-shirt!" and wear it when pendulum comes to atlantis..

[esoter1c]

Yeah Shtick it to em Pendulum !

[C_squared]

It is pretty big... Fresh shat the bed on this one for sure... That's twice in his career. 1) Breaking up Bad Company & 2)well you know #2....

I've been anxious to hear what Pendulum can do under their own label...hopefully they stray far away from what the've down with BBK, that's not to say that they haven't written some wicken tunes for them.

[decypher]

Good for them for not letting the label fuck around.

[tiedye]

^^
I second that. I don't know a lot about the history of Pendulum, since I'm more inclined to artists like Noisia, Evol Intent, and Black Sun Empire, but as a musician I throw mad props to any artist/musician that stands up for their rights when a label oversteps their boundaries. It may be legal, as I understand it, since Pendulum gave a copy of the mix to a record exec (am I understanding this right?) but fuck that! You shouldn't have to worry about your record label jeopardizing your music/image/integrity like that. An artist/group releases music at a time they deem fit for their career, not the other way around. Leave that to the bubblegum princesses of the pop world.

[esoter1c]

I just read that whole thread.:Stab1:

[automatic]

so basically this is just a reissue of the first "junglesound" compilation that came out back in october of 2004,
http://www.tesco.com/entertainment/p....aspx?R=599801

....with the exact same mix as far as i can tell. which means that pendulum (it's actually el hornet on the mix for this one, surprise, surprise) agreed to releasing this 2 years ago.

so what they're disagreeing with is the repackaging and remarketing of a product that they must have agreed to in the first place. in other words it's a pretty dated mix that no longer really fits with their style. that, and the original didn't include any unmixed tracks, so they are rightly pissed off about masochist vip being on there if they don't feel it's up to their standards and didn't want the unmixed version floating around for cdj djs to play in their sets.....however, since it's in the mixed version and fresh presumably has already licensed all of the tracks the first time around that means he did pay to use it.

but really, it's just a marketing move on fresh's part. the original cd didn't have anything to say about being mixed by pendulum on the cover at all, so he must have realized that slapping a "mixed by pendulum" tag on the front would do wonders for sales now that their the hottest shit in drum and bass. since he's already paid for licensing every tune on there he gets to sell the same cd twice, while only paying for it once :o

kind of dodgy, as it's not really saying anything about being a reissue of a cd that came out a year and a half ago.

[esoter1c]

Fresh Responded on DNBA !!11!!!1!!

http://forum.breakbeat.co.uk/tm.asp?m=1967624393

[Toxxin Ephekt]

^^, Facker!, got me with your shit link!!....

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by Toxxin Ephekt

^^, Facker!, got me with your shit link!!....

Shhhhhhhhhhhh........don't let em' know.:285:

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

Fresh Responded on DNBA !!11!!!1!!

http://forum.breakbeat.co.uk/tm.asp?m=1967624393

lmao...blake that was dope

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by Revolver

lmao...blake that was dope

I stole it from DOA.:285:

[dabbler]

Originally Posted by automatic

so basically this is just a reissue of the first "junglesound" compilation that came out back in october of 2004,
http://www.tesco.com/entertainment/p....aspx?R=599801

....with the exact same mix as far as i can tell. which means that pendulum (it's actually el hornet on the mix for this one, surprise, surprise) agreed to releasing this 2 years ago.

so what they're disagreeing with is the repackaging and remarketing of a product that they must have agreed to in the first place. in other words it's a pretty dated mix that no longer really fits with their style. that, and the original didn't include any unmixed tracks, so they are rightly pissed off about masochist vip being on there if they don't feel it's up to their standards and didn't want the unmixed version floating around for cdj djs to play in their sets.....however, since it's in the mixed version and fresh presumably has already licensed all of the tracks the first time around that means he did pay to use it.

but really, it's just a marketing move on fresh's part. the original cd didn't have anything to say about being mixed by pendulum on the cover at all, so he must have realized that slapping a "mixed by pendulum" tag on the front would do wonders for sales now that their the hottest shit in drum and bass. since he's already paid for licensing every tune on there he gets to sell the same cd twice, while only paying for it once :o

kind of dodgy, as it's not really saying anything about being a reissue of a cd that came out a year and a half ago.

actually there is a LOT more to the story that they didn't post up. something about not being paid a penny for anything so far...