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  #26 (permalink)  
Old Mar 21, 02
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does it matter??? loungex ..... F&K >>>> can't we all just get along....
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Old Mar 21, 02
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Re: Re: @ Junglet

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15... 17... not much difference.
almost as much as ignorant, and stupid.
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Old Mar 21, 02
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Originally posted by snyx
"but f&k doesnt have 1/4 the trafic loungex does" Your right! But when we do (yes it's bound to happen) The server we are on currently will still be blazing away like it is now. (thanks to my good friends at inihosting.com)
"blazing"? ive had speed problems with this site for the past week, and its not just at home either because ive tried at school

its weird how whenever loungex is even mentioned in a topic, you just have to respond to it with some snarky remark... a little over competitive are we? go play some cs

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  #29 (permalink)  
Old Mar 21, 02
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no, F&K was mentioned, and I though to step in. its weird how wheneven I reply in a topic, you just have to respond to it with some snarky remark... a little over competitive are we?

As for cs I will play dont worry about that, but your name is FAR too long, its messing up my margins! well from now on, you simply stringbeans! (seriously)

-Myles
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Old Mar 21, 02
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lol

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Old Mar 21, 02
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yeah that was funny, see why can't the rest of you ppl just laugh at me like stringbeans? but no, everyone has to put up some stupid fight. cheers man! :)
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  #32 (permalink)  
Old Mar 22, 02
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Random thoughts in my mind

First, I think a few people have let this thread get the best of them and second, it does raise some bigger issues. I think charging anyone for access on a site is a risky, yet clever way to weed out trolls. The clever side is not many people are going to shell out $10 so they can post once and then have their account terminated. User pays = user stays. The risky side is that not everyone is up for paying $10 when the same type of party info can be found on other sites. In this case are the users there for the community or are they a member to hear and read the latest gossip and event info? Are people going to miss out if they aren't on Lx? Is this transformation going to weed out the trolls and make it a big fat happy community? These are all things we'll find out when Lx goes back online. There's one thing that is certain and that is there are always going to be people who are willing waste $10 so they can make a quick ass of themselves and then disappear like a fart in the breeze. I’m sure these types of accounts will be erased or considered.

Now as I sat here and thought about it I realized the financial potential behind an idea like this. I've broken it down into simple mathematical terms so you could see what type of income such an idea could generate.

Figures are based on the cost of membership ($10/year) plus the annual operating cost of a server ($4800) which is spread over 12 months ($400/month).
  • Scenario 1.
    I've heard LX has a ton of visitors/guests each day week. If LX draws 10,000 members and charges a $10 fee per member, Al will collect $100,000. Subtract annual server costs, Al Banks $95,200.
  • Scenario 2.
    LX proudly manages to hold onto to 5000 members who are all willing to pay a $10 membership. Al collects $50,000, subtract annual server costs, Al banks $45,200.
  • Scenario 3.
    LX maintains 2500 active members who are all interested in becoming $10 annual members. Al collects $25,000, subtract annual server costs, Al banks $20,200
  • Scenario 4. Lx manages to attract 1250 members who all submit their $10 payment. Al collects $12,500, subtract annual server costs, Al banks $7,700.
  • Scenario 5. The idea falters, many lose interest, 625 interested people spend $10 on a yearly membership. Al collects $6,250, subtract annual server costs, Al banks $1,450.

Obviously scenario 1 is the best financial possibility and scenario 5 is a plan that might not have gone according to plan. Member shrinkage isn't always the best thing.

All these scenarios raise a few questions of whether the pay plan is really to cover server costs or if it’s time to cash in on the LX name. Maybe all the money generated will go right back to the party kids (new better server, free party etc) or Al’s going to sit pretty for a full year and not worry about a thing. This isn’t a stab. I’m not taking direct sides nor am I stating that I firmly believe in any of these thoughts. I’m simply stating the obvious and viewing this new change with as many angles as possible. I’m all for change and if this gets rid of all of the trolls then the mission is a success. I’m curious to see the new look and will be sending in my $10 for a membership once things get going. The last thing I’d hate to see is it start as a pay site then go back to a non-pay site because the idea didn’t fly. Then I’ll be thinking I should have taken my $10 and went to burger haven.
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  #33 (permalink)  
Old Mar 22, 02
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Re: Random thoughts in my mind

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Then I’ll be thinking I should have taken my $10 and went to burger haven.
you can eat a dope meal, and still have change with $10! AMAZING!
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  #34 (permalink)  
Old Mar 22, 02
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Originally posted by snyx
btw, im 17 thanks.
then why do you act like you are 15?
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  #35 (permalink)  
Old Mar 22, 02
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DJ FORM:

Yes, absolutely. There is so much financial potential in a plan like this. 10$ / X number of users will equal a considerable amount of cashflow. :Kam:

Judging from the fact that Al has put a ridiculous amount of money out of his own pocket into parties, the website etc, and lost most of it, he certainly deserves whatever profit he makes of it. Basic business... he provides a service... we pay him for it.

However, i believe that he will probably put all (or most) of the "profits" from the new loungex into parties and other projects related to the scene. Meaning, we all benefit (even snarky webpage designers). :)

In any event, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
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  #36 (permalink)  
Old Mar 22, 02
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Serious, al's a nice guy but he gets waaaay to much sympathy. Pretty much anyone that throws a party is risking money out of there own pocket....you guys make it sound like Al is the only one taking risks and spending cash.

Whatever im just thinking out loud
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  #37 (permalink)  
Old Mar 22, 02
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Ya, obviously... I'm not saying he is the saviour of the scene and he deserves all our help and sympathy. Everyone who does any ort of business venture or invests in something like a party, is susceptible to losing money and that is their own choice.

Everyone is in the same boat, we're just talking specifically about al and loungex right now... Im not saying no one else does what he does... =)
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Old Mar 22, 02
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Re: Re: Re: @ Junglet

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Originally posted by snyx

almost as much as ignorant, and stupid.

*laughs* you never fail to amuse me. relax:089:
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  #39 (permalink)  
Old Mar 22, 02
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Quote:
Originally posted by e_vilosity
i actually thought that the trolls and subsequent imitation trolls on loungex were actually quite funny and i will miss them
me too

R.I.P. LX TROLLS
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Old Mar 22, 02
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Originally posted by snyx
geez, oddmud! your about as popular as my cat here, and I tell you... he isnt too popular! :D:
sounds like a match made in heaven OK
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  #41 (permalink)  
Old Mar 22, 02
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Junglet your a loser.
jade your okay.
frogprincess it does sound like a match!

OK
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  #42 (permalink)  
Old Mar 25, 02
this one out, is a must..
 
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Originally posted by snyx
oddmud your a geek, don't call members idiots its not nice, but its a double standard so I can call you whatever I like. ANYWAYS, you really need to stop crying about this stupid LX server bill stuff! I have heard it like a KAZILLION times already. F&K is run off $0.00 it always has been and probably will be for along time (well server cost that is) Oh, and I know what your going to say "but f&k doesnt have 1/4 the trafic loungex does" Your right! But when we do (yes it's bound to happen) The server we are on currently will still be blazing away like it is now. (thanks to my good friends at inihosting.com) So why don't you leave Al to stick up for Al, and be on your merry way.

-Myles

bte, yeah www.tranceaddict.com is HELLA dope! Now THATS a forum! Special-K you earned you title rights back! :D:
Ok, now you're personally insulting me? You want a fucking smack up side the head asshole? I'm calling idiots idiots, they know who they are. I'm not insulting all your users as I never intended too. Sorry you have some hook up. I'm just sticking up for my good friend and former roommate. Sorry, he doesn't have time to come here between working at EA and building his new site.

Whats your damage anyways? Do you think I'm trying to steal away from your board? I never once dissed this place. You shouldn't have even opened your mouth.
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  #43 (permalink)  
Old Mar 25, 02
this one out, is a must..
 
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Originally posted by Special-K
Oh and Oddmudd go fuck yourself, this wasnt an attack on Al like i clearly stated in my post. Just because you you belong to some fucked up inner circle of LX and you know whats going on dosnt mean everyone else does.
Never said it was a personal attack. I just explained it for the 5th fucking time, thats all.
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  #44 (permalink)  
Old Mar 25, 02
this one out, is a must..
 
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ok people.

you don't seem to get the whole point of loungex and mr. alan harding.

al doesn't give a shit about the money

al doesn't give a shit what people have to say

al wants a tight nit group of people who really really want to be there.

you want to abuse and waste people's bandwidth, there is a shitload of other free boards out there.

i know al, and i know that any sort of money made on a venture like this would go right back into his next party making it that much cooler.

al is not the type of person to think about himself. he thinks of everyone around him first. and anyone that has ever met the guy knows this.

i'm not defending him, cause he hasn't done anything wrong.
i'm just showing my support for one of the nicest guys in vancouver.

if you don't agree, thats your own issue.

i personally don't have any problems paying him $10 a year for something i get good use out of. everyone wants something for nothing. and thats going to kill the human population.
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  #45 (permalink)  
Old Mar 25, 02
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  #46 (permalink)  
Old Mar 25, 02
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Quote:
Originally posted by snyx
ANYWAYS, you really need to stop crying about this stupid LX server bill stuff! I have heard it like a KAZILLION times already.



That's all well and good, but that is the answer to the question, why the 10 bux.

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F&K is run off $0.00 it always has been and probably will be for along time (well server cost that is) Oh, and I know what your going to say "but f&k doesnt have 1/4 the trafic loungex does"


Looking at your active members, and the average number of posts a day. Your getting a bit less the 1/10th of the traffic.

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Your right! But when we do (yes it's bound to happen)


Hrm. Lets see, from what I've seen, traffic to this site has gone down since ED came up. As well as the rave scene dying (well the ones the people on here go to), how do you figure your going to find 8000 new members?

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The server we are on currently will still be blazing away like it is now. (thanks to my good friends at inihosting.com)


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  #47 (permalink)  
Old Mar 25, 02
What?
 
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Oddmud your such a fucking weirdo.
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Old Mar 25, 02
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yo lickmud, ur pathetic. whenever u post, all u do is cry ur ass off like a whining bitch. oh yah while ur whining ur ass off u try to look like ur big time and too cool. shut up biatch
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Old Mar 26, 02
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ya oddmud your probably thinking that i created a troll to bash you but really im not that petty nor do i have the time to waste on a troll accounts.
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Old Mar 26, 02
this one out, is a must..
 
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wtf special-k?

man, and you're calling me weird. drop it already. fool.
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