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Old Sep 04, 02
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Illegal to game in greece

"Gamers face jail in Greece
13:55 Tuesday 3rd September 2002
Rupert Goodwins and Matt Loney


A new law passed in Greece means that anybody carrying an electronic game - even if it is just on a mobile phone - could face a hefty fine or lengthy jail sentence.

Thousands of British tourists in Greece are unknowingly facing heavy fines or long terms in prison for owning mobile phones or portable video games. The Greek government has banned all electronic games across Greece, including those in home computers, Game Boy-style portable consoles, and on mobile phones.

Law Number 3037, enacted at the end of July, explicitly forbids electronic games with 'electronic mechanisms and software' from public and private places, and people have already been fined tens of thousands of euros for playing or owning games.

Internet cafes are allowed to continue to operate, providing all gaming is prohibited:if a client is found to be running any sort of game, including online chess, the café owner will be fined and the place closed. The law applies equally to visitors from abroad: "If you know these things are banned, you should not bring them in," said the commercial attaché at the Greek Embassy in London -- who declined to give her name.

The law was passed to prevent illegal gambling. According to the Greek newspaper Kathimerini, "The police will be responsible for catching offenders, who will face fines of 5,000 to 75,000 euros and imprisonment of one to 12 months. The blanket ban was decided in February after the government admitted it was incapable of distinguishing innocuous video games from illegal gambling machines." One online report said that even watching a film on DVD -- many of which contain promotional games linked to the movie -- had resulted in an arrest and a 10,000-euro fine.

The Greek gaming community has reacted with a mixture of shock, disbelief and anger. One site, www.gameland.gr, has opened a petition and a news service on the ban, as well as providing English translations of the law and messages of support from around the world.

A test case is to come before the Greek courts next week, and the Greek gaming community is already planning protests in the event that the defendant is convicted.

"We are trying to organise a protest against this law," said Petros Tipis of Thessaloniki-based gaming company Reload Entertainment, which has had to cancel a gaming tournament that was to be held this week.

If the prosecution of the defendant next week is successful, said Tipis, the Greek gaming industry will take the case to the European Court.

In the meantime, Tipis told ZDNet UK, a lot of people in Greece are very worried about the new law. "They are taking it very seriously," he said. "It even affects the games that come with Windows. This law isn't the right one," he added. "It is unfair. It was introduced too quickly."

Reload's tournament, which was to be held on 6 September, was a qualifier for the CPL Oslo 2002 gaming tournament. "Now we are trying not to lose the two slots we were given from CPL for the tournament," said Tipis. "This was the first time for a qualifier (for this tournament) in Greece."
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Old Sep 04, 02
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thats sad
i actually feel sorry for the people
like come on thats takin away ppls fun
id seriously go insane
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Old Sep 04, 02
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i'm lost for thoughts...that's ridiculous
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Old Sep 04, 02
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Quote:

"The police will be responsible for catching offenders, who will face fines of 5,000 to 75,000 euros and imprisonment of one to 12 months. The blanket ban was decided in February after the government admitted it was incapable of distinguishing innocuous video games from illegal gambling machines."

If the police and gov't can't figure this out I'd hate to find out what would happen if I was caught with a bag of oregano or icing sugar.
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Old Sep 04, 02
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lmao Winston

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Old Sep 04, 02
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what a stupid ass law. i'm speechless
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Old Sep 04, 02
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thas not real

not a chance

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lol
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Old Sep 04, 02
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unfortunately it's very true... that's what's so sad about it.
This new law suggests that Microsoft will soon be banned also because of the games it has on it. I'm not sure if Mr Gates will be pleased with that.
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Old Sep 04, 02
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and it wouldn't do to piss off mr gates.
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Old Sep 04, 02
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what a fucked up country....

i guess thats what happens when you let incompetent socialists run your country.


hmm i wonder what other fucked up laws they have there?
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Old Sep 04, 02
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They started the olympics..

Maybe those games will be no more
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Old Sep 04, 02
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I'm too lazy to verify such a claim but even if it is true, it'd be impossible to uphold such a law. Electronic gaming is no longer a hobby but a way of life. Are you willing to tell me the police will raid EVERY SINGLE household? An electronic game is present in every homefront these days whether it's on a computer, console, or handheld (yes, even those hand-held slot machines would constitute as an electronic device). If you have the internet, you are exposed to electronic gaming whether you want it or not, just through pop-up adverstising. You would need martial law for something like this to be upheld and I doubt the people of Greece would allow such a thing to happen.
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Old Sep 05, 02
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Whoops! Looks like I spoke too soon!
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Old Sep 05, 02
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^^^^ :225:

Too funny!
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Old Sep 05, 02
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Sykonee do a search on google and watch as 40 results come back. it's not a myth :(

greek-style

werdyboy states it's been reversed..
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Old Sep 05, 02
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I know. If you'll notice the times of my two posts, it gave me more than enough time to discover the details just from casual browsing on regular gaming sites.
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Old Sep 06, 02
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thats hillarious

i dont think that law is gonna last very long though
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