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Old Aug 12, 03
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10 Years later, Who Else Was There?

Anyone else go to Clayoquot sound 10 years ago to protest it's destruction?
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Old Aug 12, 03
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i was to little.....but i do remember seeing it on TV...

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Old Aug 12, 03
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Anyone else go to Clayoquot sound 10 years ago to protest it's destruction?
it's destruction?
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Old Aug 13, 03
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Um I was 14 at the time - so not much protesting for me -- Although I was into the 'alternative' music ..so i definatley wanted to go and wear my flannel shirt.....

Local Mp Svend Robinson was there though - so it's like i was :)
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Old Aug 13, 03
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Anyone else go to Clayoquot sound 10 years ago to protest it's destruction?

you went protesting when you were 14?
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you went protesting when you were 14?
I was 13 and yes I went.
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Old Aug 13, 03
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Like inkster said....destruction?
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Old Aug 13, 03
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I was 13 and yes I went.
did the protest change anything or are they still logging in the area?
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Anyone else go to Clayoquot sound 10 years ago to protest it's destruction?
Protest as in oppose. It's destruction as in it being destroyed.

I went there to oppose the destruction of one of the last old growth forrests that remains in tact in the world. It's still not completely protect but prior to 93' the plan was to clear cut the whole area.

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Old Aug 13, 03
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I thought it was a selective logging plan...
shows what I know.

http://www.focs.ca/logging_updates.htm
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Old Aug 13, 03
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You can take a look see for yourself :)
too much of it is open for logging..too much


Logging Updates

(EDIT: we posted the same link - how special)
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Old Aug 13, 03
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^^^hey thats wher eI got my link
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I heard that the logging companies combined log less that 1% or forests every year

don't know if it is true though
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did the protest change anything or are they still logging in the area?
Actually a lot of things have changed and are continuing to change since then. In January 2000, Clayoquot Sound was declared a UNESCO Biosphere Reserve (By the UN) but that doesn't mean it's fully protected. It does however give conservationists leverage to influence decisions made there. One of the main efforts that can be made to influence the government on these issues is to bring attention to problems they allow to go unchecked to the international community. Unfortunately industrial logging continues to destroy the Sound’s forests and fish farms continue to pollute its waters. The fish farms are of particular concern and even more of an immediate threat to the wild salmon stocks than logging. A consumer driven boycott is being organized against them by this group, http://www.convergecom.ca/ As far as logging this effort was started as a side effect of the Clayoquot protests,
http://oldgrowthfree.com/ and works to pressure companies into taking up environmentally sound practices.

Really though that's a very tough question to answer in full but I'll see what I can dig up. I do believe though that the protests in 93' were a catalyst that helped make a lot of people aware of issues that face our province. For instance who really profits from all of this? A lot of people don't realize it but industrial logging isn't the only model of logging and it's argued that it's one that doesn't make sense for B.C.

In a broader scope B.C. is at the center of some very proggressive initiatives. Through legal challenges native groups are working to take legal title to their lands and have successfuly blocked projects that would have destroyed their traditional territories. In a recent ruling the provincial government had a decision overuled concerning a propossed mine in Northern B.C. http://www.sierralegal.org/m%5Farchi...5F12%5F13.html The government then decided to reaprove the project and it's now been challenged again. The thing about this issues is that 120% of B.C. is involved with land claims right now, 120% because some of these are over laping. According to Canadian law nothing can be done to threaten this land until these claims are setteled.

Again though it's a very broad topic.
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I heard that the logging companies combined log less that 1% or forests every year

don't know if it is true though
even if it is 1% a year, thats a huge number.. that means all the forests would be gone after 100 years of logging. and the logging companies do log a hell of a lot of trees. i know, cause i've seen how much they log in a year and its my job to plant new trees on the land that they log.. sometimes single clearcuts stretch for many km, and i'd say about 10-20% of all trees that are logged are simply left behind on the clearcut to rot, and much of it is perfectly good wood.
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even if it is 1% a year, thats a huge number.. that means all the forests would be gone after 100 years of logging. and the logging companies do log a hell of a lot of trees. i know, cause i've seen how much they log in a year and its my job to plant new trees on the land that they log.. sometimes single clearcuts stretch for many km, and i'd say about 10-20% of all trees that are logged are simply left behind on the clearcut to rot, and much of it is perfectly good wood.
I'm not sure on this one but my guess would be that's a feel good statistic. For instance if they were to say they log less than 1% of the province every year that's not relevant in terms of how much of the province is forrested.
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I'm not sure on this one but my guess would be that's a feel good statistic. For instance if they were to say they log less than 1% of the province every year that's not relevant in terms of how much of the province is forrested.
yeah cuz like only 60% of this land mass that is about the size of western europe is forrested.

and with my B.A ill be fully qualified tojoin the effort to reforst the land that has been destroyed by logging
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