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Old Jun 03, 02
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Final scratch

Who's going to get it.

I know a lot of people here don't know what it is...

Final scratch works as follows

Place the final scratch record on your turntable. Select the song on a computer which is hooked through the final scratch box.

Play the record, the record is used as the imput for the manipulaton of the track. Meaning, if you slow down the turntable, push the record, pick up the needle, it will react the EXACT same way (in theory, but from what I've heard from people who have played with it, it does acutally exiecute this rather well)

The final scratch system comes with two records (replacements are going to cost around 20 bux), the box, and the computer program

But, you have to install linux as your operating system. I don't care for this too much, but if it has to be done (acutally now that I think about it, if i was to use my computer at a show, I wouldn't want anything but linux/mac os running it).

Oh yeah, the price tag:

499 usd. Damn good deal, for having the ability to have every track you want on vinyl.



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The final scratch set up on your tables



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Final scratch, SCARTCHING IT UP!

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The final scratch system, does not mix for you, all the fun parts are left to you, all it does, is play the song, and be manipulated by the turntables
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Old Jun 03, 02
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Yeah craze used that when he came. I'd definitely look into that. First I need tables of my own. A laptop too. FUCK! WHY AM I NOT RICH????????
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Old Jun 03, 02
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Wow, of al lthe people who have tried to explain the concept of Finalscratch, you have done it the best Chris. Based on your explanation I would get it. Sounds like a sweet idea.
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Old Jun 04, 02
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Thanks

I intend on using it...

Another thing:

From what I've been told by people who have used it.

When you install the program, final scratch automatically partitions part of your drive and installs linux

Which is good, cause installing linux is a bit of a pain in the ass...
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Wow, of al lthe people who have tried to explain the concept of Finalscratch, you have done it the best Chris. Based on your explanation I would get it. Sounds like a sweet idea.

Erin and I were just discussing this today that Chris should be salesman :)
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Old Jun 04, 02
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Re: Final scratch

every time i hear the word finalscratch i get hard..and im not even a dj..dosn't richie hawtin have a major hand in the creation of this thing?

i thought final scratch also allowed you to add loops and basicly resequence a track on the fly, am i wrong?
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Old Jun 04, 02
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i'm definetly getting it

but damn i need a new laptop now
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I'm carrying my desktop comptuer, lighter then my vinyl.

Yes richie hawtin had a big say in it. The guy who did such parties as compression (the one where it was him playing for 8 hours, as the celing slowly lowered through the 8 hours till it hit your head)
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The guy who did such parties as compression (the one where it was him playing for 8 hours, as the celing slowly lowered through the 8 hours till it hit your head)
Wow, where was this party held? How did they lower the ceiling?Very inonative I must say.
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Old Jun 05, 02
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That thing looks so cool! I'm up for recording someone on those babies if free studio time is enough incentive. :)
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Designed by 2 hackers from the Netherlands.

Smart purchase that i've been tracking for months. Have a dep on one and intend to back my entire collection on an 80 gig HD. Shitty thing is no one in Vancouver is licensed to sell them yet. If you want one consider purchasing try venturing into Washington State.

Imagine the possibilities.

One bag, 2 digital records some white labels and a pimping lap top. Customs would be a breeze (unless they think it's a bomb).
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this looks seriously dope!~!! I cant wait to get it... They will sell them at Platinum Records in Seattle.. I saw on the Final Skratch website.... This is seriously the new wave of djing...

BTW- the records are exactly the same as regular records. The records are encoded with a modem type sound on it, so when you are at a certain part of the record, the computer can pick up from the sounds off the record what part of the record you are at.
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Old Jun 05, 02
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so........

what will this mean to those who buy vinyl? are you still going to spend all your money to the point of excess of new records? or will you just download them?

LOL this could be like the napster of djing...
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well i think, the records that you can get offline you wont have to buy..but the tracks you cant find on mp3, you will have to buy.

But at the same time, record labels might turn into mp3 labels and mabe start selling their tracks online for a price? Sometimes I buy my hard to get cd tracks online so who knows?
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You're right precise...now from another angle imagine being able to create a new track the night before and spin it the next night on digital wax? What about custom scratch records? The possibilities are endless and will certainly seperate the men from the boys. The main hold up is $$. It's not cheap and will run the average dj about $1000 (software and hub) + a nice laptop (mac-$2000-$3000- although software isn't avail yet for mac) and 2 digital records @ $20/piece. Buying some vinyl would be pointless. There will always be a need for purchasing vinyl as many new tracks rarely make it to an mp3 format. Good topic. And again you're right record companies might charge for an mp3 although it might be bad for reproduction purposes. We'll have to see how it goes.
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The possibilities are endless and will certainly seperate the men from the boys.
It certainly will.. Everyone will have thier own style and bust is like they imagine to in their heads... defintaley something to get a head start over...
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I can't wait to start using it...I think it's going to open up quite a few new doors. Imagine simply bringing a external HD to a gig and pluggin in. That would be sweet.

You better call me when u get yours!...i'll do the same :)
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I think vestex is choked at the fact that someone beat them to it. Look how much they spent on developing the VRX-2000 only to realize how far they were away from a usable, affordable recorder. Right now the quality of the dubs is so shitty a turntablist can barely get away with using it. Something far below 22khz in quality...




http://www.vestax.com.au/products/vrx2000.htm

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HA. I will!!! I already have the same labtop as in the pic!! word. I m half way there.... i was sceptical about it when i first heard but Im getting so psyched for it!~
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I've got my mind set on a mac...

either an ibook

or a powerbookg4



I have to admit the sony Vaio looks tight too
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look at this piece of work...

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advanced technology!! Im scared.......
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Old Jun 10, 02
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Old Jun 10, 02
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Get a MAC, fuck the Vaio. With a Mac the production possibilities are endless. Nothing decent, musicwise, is out for IBM Clones.


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