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Old Jan 09, 05
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mixing hip hop

i don't know dick all about spinning but out of curiousity: would beatmatching hip hop be ridiculously easy compared to say... jungle or breakz?
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Old Jan 09, 05
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hip hop isnt about mixing so much. its about creativity like: scratching, beatjuggling, blending, and cutting.
thats the beauty of it.
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Originally Posted by wigglesworth
hip hop isnt about mixing so much. its about creativity like: scratching, beatjuggling, blending, and cutting.
thats the beauty of it.
I understand. But I'm talking about beatmatching itself (which i assume you still would have to do with hip hop) ... is it much easier?
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Yeh well sure, u have to be able to beatmatch fast, know the bpm of your records. It's all about doing creative blends, showmanship, so many more possibilities.
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Old Jan 09, 05
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No, in my opinion it's much harder, there is more time in between the beats, and less beats, so you have less to judge by, and more time can go by before you realize it's off, or which way it's gone. I think that hip-hop is the hardest and drum and bass is the easiest, for the same reason. This is just beatmatching mind you, the rest is a whole other ball game.
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Old Jan 09, 05
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no fuckin' way! call the press!

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Old Jan 09, 05
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hip hops alot harder for beatmatching

the bpm range in hip hop tracks range alot more than generic made for djing breaks/dnb tracks. you gotta have a really good sense for the ranges if you wanna do nice layering
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Old Jan 09, 05
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I spin all three and hiphop is by far the hardest genre to mix.

Actually, jungle and breaks (and any form of electronic music) is ridiculously easy to mix compared to hiphop. Keep in mind that most forms of electronic music is written and designed to be mixed whereas hiphop isn't.

The hardest hiphop is the old school tunes where the producers were using tape loops and stuff rather than samplers and computers so it's not quantized or anything.

Also you really have to know your records very well to ensure that vocals don't clash and a lot of hiphop tracks tend to utilize extra bars and beats than most formulaic electronic tracks. Also consider that the average electronic tune is 6-7 minutes in legnth whereas a lot of hiphop tunes can be anywhere from 2 - 5 minutes you have to match it a lot faster.

If you want a real challenge try mixing live bands into electronic or hiphop. That's good fun...

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Old Jan 10, 05
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i mark all my records to show the number of bars in the intro and chorus so its easy to remember.
also...i find hip hop easy to mix because at most you have to mix 64 bars, usually its 32.
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Old Jan 10, 05
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Originally Posted by wigglesworth
i mark all my records to show the number of bars in the intro and chorus so its easy to remember.
also...i find hip hop easy to mix because at most you have to mix 64 bars, usually its 32.
that definetly helps

i should start doing that mroe often... till now i've just memorized with playing with the records alot but i dont have that kinda time anymore
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Old Jan 10, 05
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^ Do it now before your hiphop collection gets too big (unless it already is) :) - then it becomes a total pain in the ass...

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